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That Zoroark

The Zoroark That Likes Pie....
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    This is my shoddy battle team.
    Infernape/Life Orb
    Blaze/Nature:Adamant/Ev - Att 255 Spd 255
    Fake Out
    Flare Blitz
    Close Combat
    Stealth Rock
    Has been working well for me but not as well. He always does this: Fake Out+Stealth rock and then faints to something. But when he's alive it's very useful. Looking for another good lead.


    Gengar/Lefties
    Levitate/Nature:Modest/EV - Sp.att 255 Spd 255
    Destiny Bond
    Toxic
    Protect
    Confuse Ray
    This thing hasn't done anything for me. Destiny Bond usually fails because the opponent switches and I die to T-tar's Sandstorm.


    Starmie/Expert Belt
    Natural Cure/Nature:Modest/EV Sp.Att 255 Spd 255
    Surf
    Thunder Bolt
    Psychic
    Reflect
    Mixed Attacker. People who think Starmie is a bEaSt, You are right. No words.

    Tyranitar/Expert Belt
    Sand Stream/Nature:Adamant/EV Sp.Def 255 Def 255
    Stone Edge
    Crunch
    Thunder Punch
    SuperPower
    This thing is my tank. It survived 5 Surfs from No Boost Starmie. BeAsT.

    Heracross/Toxic Orb
    Guts/Nature:Adamant/EV Spd 255 Att 255
    Swords Dance
    Facade
    Megahorn
    Close Combat
    This thing sweeped 5 pokes after 2 SD's. Want to keep.

    Flygon/Expert Belt
    Levitate/Nature:Rash/EV - Sp. att 255 Spd 255
    Fire Blast
    Draco Meteor
    U-Turn
    Earthquake
    It's not as good as I expected but will do.

    So this is my team. Tell me mah weaknesses. Example battle:

    Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Soul Dew Clause
    iLuvWaffles sent out Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
    That Zoroark sent out Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
    That Zoroark: same lead 8D
    Infernape used Fake Out.
    Infernape lost 23% of its health.
    Infernape lost 10% of its health.
    Infernape flinched!
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: fakeout
    iLuvWaffles: D:
    iLuvWaffles: outspeed me
    iLuvWaffles: :(
    Infernape used Earthquake.
    It's super effective!
    Infernape lost 90% of its health.
    That Zoroark's Infernape fainted.
    Infernape lost 10% of its health.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: 50/50
    That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
    iLuvWaffles switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
    Gyarados's intimidate cut Flygon's attack!
    Flygon used Earthquake.
    It doesn't affect Gyarados...
    ---
    Flygon used U-turn.
    It's not very effective...
    Gyarados lost 7% of its health.
    That Zoroark switched in DeathStar (lvl 100 Starmie).
    Gyarados used Dragon Dance.
    Gyarados's attack was raised.
    Gyarados's speed was raised.
    Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
    Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles switched in Electivire (lvl 100 Electivire ?).
    DeathStar used Thunderbolt.
    Electivire's Motor Drive increased its speed!
    ---
    That Zoroark: im guessing you have good experience
    iLuvWaffles: suuuuure
    Electivire used Ice Punch.
    It's not very effective...
    DeathStar lost 19% of its health.
    DeathStar used Psychic.
    Electivire lost 61% of its health.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: wooooow
    iLuvWaffles: didnt flying
    iLuvWaffles: flygon
    That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
    Electivire used Thunderpunch.
    It doesn't affect Flygon...
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: are
    iLuvWaffles: WOOOOOOW
    That Zoroark: :P
    iLuvWaffles switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
    Gyarados's intimidate cut Flygon's attack!
    Flygon used U-turn.
    It's not very effective...
    Gyarados lost 8% of its health.
    That Zoroark switched in DeathStar (lvl 100 Starmie).
    Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
    Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles switched in Electivire (lvl 100 Electivire ?).
    DeathStar used Thunderbolt.
    Electivire's Motor Drive increased its speed!
    ---
    Electivire used Ice Punch.
    It's not very effective...
    DeathStar lost 20% of its health.
    DeathStar was frozen solid!
    DeathStar was defrosted!
    DeathStar used Reflect.
    A barrier was formed!
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: lol 1 turn defrost
    iLuvWaffles switched in Rotom-w (lvl 100 Rotom-w).
    DeathStar used Psychic.
    Rotom-w lost 56% of its health.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: o crap
    iLuvWaffles: this things base speed is 115 right
    iLuvWaffles: starmie
    That Zoroark: lol
    iLuvWaffles: i mean
    That Zoroark: umm move?
    iLuvWaffles: hmmmm
    iLuvWaffles: im thinking
    That Zoroark: you think alot.
    iLuvWaffles switched in Metagross (lvl 100 Metagross).
    That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: daaaang
    Flygon used Fire Blast.
    It's super effective!
    Metagross lost 90% of its health.
    Metagross used Agility.
    Metagross's speed was sharply raised.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: HAHAHA
    iLuvWaffles: COULDA EQ'D
    iLuvWaffles: o crap
    iLuvWaffles: WOOOOOOOW
    iLuvWaffles: WHY
    iLuvWaffles: DO I HAVE THUNDERPUNCH
    iLuvWaffles: ON THIS THING
    That Zoroark: i thought you would swich so....
    iLuvWaffles: WOOOOOOOOOOW
    iLuvWaffles: I AM DUMB
    That Zoroark switched in DeathStar (lvl 100 Starmie).
    Metagross used Meteor Mash.
    It's not very effective...
    DeathStar lost 19% of its health.
    DeathStar's reflect wore off!
    ---
    That Zoroark: :P
    Metagross used Thunderpunch.
    It's super effective!
    DeathStar lost 43% of its health.
    That Zoroark's DeathStar fainted.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: i am dead
    That Zoroark switched in Tyranitar (lvl 100 Tyranitar ?).
    Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
    A sandstorm brewed!
    Metagross used Earthquake.
    It's super effective!
    Tyranitar lost 52% of its health.
    Tyranitar used Crunch.
    Metagross lost 10% of its health.
    iLuvWaffles's Metagross fainted.
    The sandstorm rages.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
    That Zoroark switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
    Infernape used Close Combat.
    It doesn't affect Gengar...
    The sandstorm rages.
    Infernape is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Infernape lost 6% of its health.
    Gengar is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Gengar lost 6% of its health.
    ---
    Infernape used Flare Blitz.
    Gengar lost 94% of its health.
    That Zoroark's Gengar fainted.
    Infernape was hit by recoil!
    Infernape lost 31% of its health.
    Infernape lost 10% of its health.
    The sandstorm rages.
    Infernape is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Infernape lost 6% of its health.
    ---
    That Zoroark: lonnnng battle
    That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
    Infernape used Close Combat.
    Flygon lost 90% of its health.
    Infernape's defence was lowered.
    Infernape's special defence was lowered.
    Infernape lost 10% of its health.
    Flygon used Draco Meteor.
    Infernape lost 4% of its health.
    iLuvWaffles's Infernape fainted.
    Flygon's special attack was harshly lowered.
    The sandstorm rages.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
    Gyarados's intimidate cut Flygon's attack!
    Flygon is already out. (MoveQueueException That Zoroark)
    Flygon used U-turn.
    It's not very effective...
    Gyarados lost 8% of its health.
    That Zoroark switched in Tyranitar (lvl 100 Tyranitar ?).
    Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
    Gyarados used Waterfall.
    It's super effective!
    Tyranitar lost 48% of its health.
    That Zoroark's Tyranitar fainted.
    The sandstorm rages.
    Gyarados is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Gyarados lost 6% of its health.
    Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
    Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
    ---
    That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
    iLuvWaffles switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
    Flygon used Draco Meteor.
    It's not very effective...
    Heatran lost 30% of its health.
    Flygon's special attack was harshly lowered.
    The sandstorm rages.
    ---
    Flygon used Earthquake.
    It's super effective!
    Heatran lost 70% of its health.
    iLuvWaffles's Heatran fainted.
    The sandstorm rages.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: wow its not scarfed.
    iLuvWaffles: ..
    iLuvWaffles switched in Rotom-w (lvl 100 Rotom-w).
    iLuvWaffles: it's over
    Rotom-w makes ground moves miss with Levitate!
    Flygon used Earthquake.
    Flygon's attack missed!
    Rotom-w used Hydro Pump.
    Flygon lost 10% of its health.
    That Zoroark's Flygon fainted.
    The sandstorm rages.
    Rotom-w is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Rotom-w lost 6% of its health.
    ---
    That Zoroark switched in Heracross (lvl 100 Heracross ?).
    That Zoroark: gg
    iLuvWaffles: craaaaap
    iLuvWaffles: gg
    Heracross used Swords Dance.
    Heracross's attack was sharply raised.
    Rotom-w used Hydro Pump.
    Rotom-w's attack missed!
    The sandstorm rages.
    Heracross is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Heracross lost 6% of its health.
    Rotom-w is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Rotom-w lost 6% of its health.
    Heracross was badly poisoned!
    ---
    iLuvWaffles: OKAAAAY
    iLuvWaffles: WOOOOOOOW
    iLuvWaffles: GGG
    iLuvWaffles: I LOST
    iLuvWaffles: WOW IF ONLY I TRICKED
    That Zoroark: burn lowers attack
    Heracross used Megahorn.
    It's not very effective...
    Rotom-w lost 31% of its health.
    iLuvWaffles's Rotom-w fainted.
    The sandstorm rages.
    Heracross is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Heracross lost 6% of its health.
    Heracross is hurt by poison!
    Heracross lost 6% of its health.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles switched in Electivire (lvl 100 Electivire ?).
    Heracross used Close Combat.
    Electivire lost 39% of its health.
    iLuvWaffles's Electivire fainted.
    Heracross's defence was lowered.
    Heracross's special defence was lowered.
    The sandstorm rages.
    Heracross is buffetted by the sandstorm!
    Heracross lost 6% of its health.
    Heracross is hurt by poison!
    Heracross lost 12% of its health.
    ---
    iLuvWaffles switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
    Gyarados's intimidate cut Heracross's attack!
    Heracross used Facade.
    Gyarados lost 90% of its health.
    iLuvWaffles's Gyarados fainted.
    That Zoroark wins!
    That Zoroark: yay.
     
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    Changes and comments in RED
    BTW I'm fairly new to team rating but I'll give it my best :)

    Aerodactyl/Focus Sash
    Pressure/Nature:Jolly/EV - Att 252 Spd 252 Hp 6
    Stealth Rock
    Taunt
    Stone Edge/Earthquake
    Protect/Stone Edge/Earthquake
    Some people say Gen 5 Ruined Aerodactyl as a lead, but I disagree...
    You will outspeed nearly all pokes apart from Electrode, Deoxys and Ninjask. However the one to be afraid of is electrode. If he is sent out first (which is doubtful because I have never seen an Electrode lead) hit him with an earthquake, then when he has been dealt with send out your stealth rock and use protect as a use for your pressure ability (mainly for strong moves like Hydro Pump ect. with only 5 pp)


    Gengar/Lefties
    Levitate/Nature:Modest/EV - Sp.att 252 Spd 252 Hp 4
    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast
    Dream Eater
    Hypnosis
    This is my moveset for my Gengar, I use it to cut peoples flow with a hypnosis and just try to outspeed dark types and hit with a Focus Blast ;)

    Starmie/Expert Belt
    Natural Cure/Nature:Modest/EV Sp.Att 252 Spd 252 Hp 6
    Surf
    Thunder Bolt
    Psychic
    Reflect
    If it works don't change it :)

    Tyranitar/Expert Belt
    Sand Stream/Nature:Adamant/EV Sp.Def 252 Def 252 Hp 6
    Stone Edge
    Crunch
    Thunder Punch
    SuperPower
    Strong tank :D

    Heracross/Toxic Orb
    Guts/Nature:Adamant/EV Spd 252 Att 252 Hp 6
    Swords Dance
    Facade
    Megahorn
    Close Combat
    Again, this is a good moveset :)

    Flygon/Choice Scarf
    Levitate/Nature:Jolly/EV Atk 252 Spd 252 SpA 6
    Earthquake
    Outrage
    Fire Blast
    Stone Edge
    I found this on the internets and was like 'this is an awesome moveset :O'
    Earthquake and Outrage prove really well as STAB moves and are hard hitting, And Stone Edge and Fire Blast prove good covers who resist/are immune to Outrage/Earthquake (for example Bronzong

    Oh and if you are wondering why I have decreased all of your EV's from 255 + 255 to 252 + 252 + 6 it is because of the calculation means that you waste 4 EV's moving one stat upto 255 or something... IDK but there is something important about 252...

    It also helps boost a diiferent stat :D
     
    Is this a Gen IV team, or a Gen V team? Anyway, here are my suggestions (Gen IV):

    Change Infernape's set to:
    -Fake Out
    -Stealth Rock
    -Overheat/Fire Blast
    -Close Combat
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 64 Atk/252 SAtk/192 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash

    Give this Gengar set a shot. Your current set is too gimmicky, and the suggested set is too risky, since Hypnosis + Dream Eater is easily countered by switching:
    -Substitute
    -Disable/Pain Split
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    Make Starmie your Rapid Spinner; Reflect isn't worth it:
    -Surf
    -Thunderbolt
    -Rapid Spin
    -Recover/Ice Beam
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP/4 SDef/252 Spe (if using Recover) or 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe (if using Ice Beam)
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Natural Cure

    I'd give Flygon the Choice Scarf.

    I'd make the most out of Tyranitar's massive movepool with this:
    -Flamethrower/Fire Blast
    -Ice Beam
    -Dark Pulse/Crunch/Thunderbolt/Stone Edge
    -Superpower
    Nature: Hasty
    EVs: 56 Atk/252 SAtk/200 Spe
    Item: Expert Belt

    If this is Gen V, go with what I suggested, except:

    Make Tyranitar your lead:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Fire Blast
    -Crunch
    -Ice Beam/Superpower
    Nature: Sassy
    EVs: 252 HP/280 SAtk/76 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Replace Flygon with Hydreigon:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Focus Blast
    -U-turn/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    With the Gen V, changes, use this Infernape set:
    -Overheat/Fire Blast
    -Close Combat
    -Grass Knot/U-turn
    -Stone Edge/Mach Punch
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Blaze
     
    I'm assuming since he mentioned Shoddy it's Gen IV. :C
     
    Well, personally I dont like choice scarfs cause you have to switch to make a new move so...
    BTW I decided to make infernape a mixape and have a claydol lead.
    Claydol/Light Clay
    Explosion
    Light Screen
    Stealth rock
    Rapid Spin

    I just randomly chose this guy. He's been good in the past day but I see many Metagross leads and leads that explosion just won't OHKO.
     
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    If you're going to use Claydol as a lead, give him a Choice Band and Trick over Light Screen >_>
    Impish with HP and DEF build.
     
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