I need some help here with a grass pokemon...

[thread_killer]

Should I use:

Torterra- Synthesis/Curse/Earthquake/Wood Hammer
or
Tropius- Synthesis/Fly/Earthquake/SolarBeam

Here's the rest of my team (feel very free to make suggestions):

Raichu-
Grass Knot
Surf
Volt Tackle
Double Team

Houndooom-
Sunny Day
Flamethrower
Dark Pulse
SolarBeam

Wobbuffet-
Destiny Bond
Encore
Mirror Coat
Counter

Alakazam-
Recover
Ice Punch
Calm Mind
Psychic

Blissey (still in the works)-
Seismic Toss (how do I get this move on Blissey, btw?)
Softboiled
Toxic
Minimize

Thanks for your help!

 

[Shadowflame3458]

Move Tutor in Emerald to get Seismic Toss.
Use Torterra. Ditch Curse for Leaf Storm though.

 

[thread_killer]

Ditch Curse for Leaf Storm though.

Why would I put both Leaf Storm and Wood Hammer on Torterra?

And I don't have Emerald...is there a way to do it in FireRed?

 

[Shadowflame3458]

No, not in Firered.


Curse is Useless on a Torterra. It just lowers it;s already somewhat low Speed. Plus, Leaf Storm doesn't give you any Recoil.

 

[thread_killer]

Since Torterra's speed already sucks, why does it matter to lower it more? It's going to move last no matter what. So the point of Curse is to bump up it's Attack and Defense, with basically no downside.

 

[Archer]

Wood hammer is better than leaf storm. torterras base attack is better than sp. attack.
Wood hammer takes recoil, but does solid damage. Considering Torterra has a base HP of 95, recoil is not a huge concern, escpecially with leftovers. leafstorm runs off a bad sp attack stat and halfs your sp attack after the first use. If you want a last resort attack, use frenzy plant which doesnt lose anything execpt for a turn.

 

[beauty. proletariat]

Since Torterra's speed already sucks, why does it matter to lower it more? It's going to move last no matter what. So the point of Curse is to bump up it's Attack and Defense, with basically no downside.

Yeah, because, if we talk about the problems of its speed being lowered, why do we have a curselax (Snorlax with curse)? Its to increase its two other stats, with next to nothing as a loss.
Also, torterra is a perfect pokemon for curse.
Just that it will benefit less from curse incase opponent will use special based moves, as snorlax has a good sp.def alredy, and def is also boosted from curse
compare their stats(thanks to Pokemon.marriland.com):

Torterra:

Min Max Min Max Base
HP
= 430 461 493 524 160
Attack
= 225 256 288 319 110
Defense
= 135 166 198 229 65
Speed
= 65 96 128 159 30
Sp. Atk
= 135 166 198 229 65
Sp. Def
= 225 256 288 319 110
Total *
1215 1401 1593 1779 540

Snorlax:

HP
430 461 493 524 160
Attack
= 225 256 288 319 110
Defense
= 135 166 198 229 65
Speed
= 65 96 128 159 30
Sp. Atk
= 135 166 198 229 65
Sp. Def
= 225 256 288 319 110
Total *
1215 1401 1593 1779 540

They both have similar stats, both have an ATK that has its base higher than 100! Also, the speed is EXACTLY the same.
~ And thats my three cents... ~

Wood hammer is better than leaf storm. torterras base attack is better than sp. attack.
Wood hammer takes recoil, but does solid damage. Considering Torterra has a base HP of 95, recoil is not a huge concern, escpecially with leftovers. leafstorm runs off a bad sp attack stat and halfs your sp attack after the first use. If you want a last resort attack, use frenzy plant which doesnt lose anything execpt for a turn.

Agreed xD

 

[sims796]

Move Tutor in Emerald to get Seismic Toss.
Use Torterra. Ditch Curse for Leaf Storm though.

Please don't give any advice unless you can give it right. Torterra isn't moving anywhere with his already pathetic speed, so why should he not have Curse? It isn't gonna hurt it, it just loses speed, which doesn't bother him at all, while raising his two best stats.

You told him to get Leaf Storm, which won't do much at all, what with Torterra's sad sp.atk. Why would he want that? It will do very little damage, and only do less and less. Wood Hammer is very powerful, and runs of his great atk. Plus, your telling him to get two grass type moves on Torterra, which is always a bad idea.

Thank God thread_killer isn't a rookie, or you could seriously mess him up with bad advice like that.

thread, he can't suvive Wood Hammer forever. The recoil is serious. Seed Bomb is an option. However, I'd still go for Wood Hammer. It's still powerful, with Synthesis to [try to] make up for recoil.

Nekroboi & archer are both very wise. Frenzy Plant shouldn't be used, though.

 

[MegaDitto]

Torterra- Leftovers
Rest ? D:/Stone Edge
Curse
Earthquake
Wood Hammer

 

[thread_killer]

Thanks for the help guys (and thanks for the attempt, Shadowflame). Is there any other way than in Emerald to get a Blissey with Seismic Toss? And where in-game do I find Leftovers? Thanks!

 

[sims796]

Unfortunatley, no. Only Emerald give you Blissey with Toss.

 

[Tensa Zangetsu]

YH why not have another move like thunder wave for blissey

 

[sims796]

Ice Beam works fine, too.

 

[Lone--Wanderer]

I suppose somebody might trade you a Seismic Toss Blissey over the GTS, but other than that...

 

[thread_killer]

Would this be alright for a Blissey?

Flamethrower
Softboiled
Toxic
Minimize

I know it's pretty unconventional, but would it work?

 

[sims796]

In a word: no. Minimize is banned-especially on Blissey, since that would make her near untouchable. Flamethrower might work, but I'd still go for Ice Beam. Your call. Toxic is okay, I guess. In place of Minimize, Aromatherapy for team support.

EDIT: I bjust realized I said that set won't work, but only really changed one move...