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[Swampertrulz]

I tried posting this team already but i was also looking for ideas for a lead so i think since the team wasnt complete i didnt get through. Ok.

At A Glance:
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The Lead:

Ambipom/LO
Jolly
Technician
4 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spe
-Fakeout
-U-Turn
-Brick Break
-Payback

This is my quick fix after i remembered evasion clause for my double team/toxic/confuse ray/protect crobat. Payback is for Zelf leads that outspeed it, for the 2x power. Usually i fake out and the u-turn on the next turn, hitting azelf leads and the like for super effective.

The Physical Sweepers:
The first physical sweeper is up for debate. Many say SDLuke but im thinkin also scizor, heracross, infernape, blaziken

Metagross/CB
Adament
Clear Body
252 Hp/236 Atk/12 Def/8 Spe
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Thunder Punch/Bullet Punch

Another generic set. I cant decide between Bullet punch and thunder punch, and which one i use largely depends on who makes it into the team. Still metagross is awesome. His attack of 601 almost rivals another pokemon further down my teams SPECIAL attack of 607

The Special Sweepers:

Rotom-C/LO
Levitate
Timid
4 Hp/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Thunderbolt
-HP [Ice]
-Leaf Storm
-Shadow Ball

Something I've been trying out thats pretty nice actually. Leaf Storm anihalates the Swamperts that give other Rotom issues. Shadow Ball and T-Bolt for STAB and HP Ice for those silly dragons

Porygon-Z/Specs
Modest
Adaptability
4 Hp/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Tri Attack
-Dark Pulse
-HP Fighting
-Ice Beam

This is my most FAVORITE pokemon (gonna change my name). Nothing can take a 160 base power Tri Attack (after STAB) off of a 607 SpA stat and walk off, except Blissey, which reminds me, why was NO ONE i played on shoddy using blissey against me until i used porygon? seriously! Fitting along with the synergy between sweepers, Porygon can come in on ghost and dark attacks aimed at Starmie, and kill EVERYTHING but dusknoir and spiritomb with HP Fighting and Dark Pulse.

The Mixed Beast:

Salamence/LO
Mild
Intimidate
84 Atk/216 SpA/208 Spe
-Outrage
-Fire Blast
-Earthquake
-Draco Meteor

Pretty much here to make the opponent piss their pants. Not much to say here. I would like the Physical damage output to be a little bigger.



Well, there it is. Awesome as the pokemon look, the only pokemon that acts as superior as its supposed to is Porygon (<3). Metagross might go for Heracross. I mean, the have generally the same weaknesses,(-ground +flying) and it would work better with starmie. I dont know : / Oh! Before i forget if ur wondering y i have no walls its because my agressive nature prevents me from having the patience.

 

[Mobile Tsk]

I tried posting this team already but i was also looking for ideas for a lead so i think since the team wasnt complete i didnt get through. Ok.

At A Glance:
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The Lead:

Ambipom/Life Orb
Jolly
Technician
4 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spe
-Fakeout
-U-Turn
-Brick Break
-Double Hit

This looks pretty good. You may want Payback to hit ghosts although this is just an option depending on what you want to hurt with this thing. Life Orb, however, is always preferred.


Arcanine/Life Orb/Leftovers
Jolly
Flash Fire
4 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spe
-Flare Blitz
-Extremespeed
-Thunder Fang/Howl
-Iron Head/Howl

Um... anything with CB does not want something as pathetic as Thunder Fang. Personally I think the LO/Lefties set is much better but you may use what you like. Honestly Arcanine is really limited and pretty outclassed though. You lose Flare Blitz with Lucario but gain a better movepool and still maintain pretty solid stats and ESpeed. I like Nine's bulkiness so it does have use but its assy movepool condemns it to UU. If you want to really take advantage of it, I recommend Leftovers + Howl.


Metagross/CB
Adament
Clear Body
252 Hp/236 Atk/12 Def/8 Spe
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Bullet Punch

Okay. This is cool but with pretty horrible coverage overall. I guess it doesn't need it, but you shouldn't classify this as a "sweeper". Bullet Punch, in my opinion, is not necessary but I can see where it would be useful. It's difficult to OHKO Gross so especially where BP wouldn't OHKO it seems more practical to replace it with something like ThunderPunch. Then it can sweep.



Starmie/Scarf
Timid
Natural Cure
4 Hp/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Psychic

This seems like a pretty solid set but you have far too many choice users. I'm not sure if this is one you'd want to convert though. I think it could run a Trickspecs set better tbh.


Porygon-Z/Specs
Modest
Adaptability
4 Hp/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Tri Attack
-Dark Pulse
-HP Fighting
-Ice Beam

Hyper Beam? Are you kidding? I don't care what Smogon says... Hyper Beam has been a horrible move since GSC, always will be a horrible move, and may someday even directly define the word horrible. Or vice versa. Encarta dictionary please:

horrible- an attack that requires a Pokemon to recharge for a turn that is absorbed by powerful Rock/Steel types and is lol'd at by Ghost types. This attack generally comes in the form of a beam. See also: Terrible.

blast burn- see: hyper beam.

hyper beam- a manifestation of poor video game programming and people who can't think at Smogon.

Seriously, what's wrong with the superpowerful Tri Attack you already have?

The Mixed Beast:

Salamence/LO
Mild
Intimidate
84 Atk/216 SpA/208 Spe
-Outrage
-Fire Blast
-Earthquake
-Draco Meteor

okay.

Seriously you have way too many choice users which means that something can easily setup late game. You need walls. They are NOT optional. You will LOSE if you do not have them. ...lol

Metagross can easily be adapted to tank hits. (see: tank set @ Smogon) You could also swap out Arcanine for something even bulkier, because bar priority, he is doing nothing for your team. (Unless you'd like to buy into a Lucario) Starmie and Porygon-Z seem pretty redundant unless you want to Trickmie into believing that I'm wrong. (lol horrible pun) Ambipom and Salamence are the only non-choice and seem to be the only ones who can fend for themselves late game. Nothing sets up on this team which is highly disappointing considering why Ambipom wants U-Turn.

 

[luke]

Seriously you have way too many choice users which means that something can easily setup late game. You need walls. They are NOT optional. You will LOSE if you do not have them.

What are we in? 2007? Walls are not necessary. This is clearly an offensive team. lern2teambuild

But I agree. Too many choice users. Throw Trick over Psychic on Starmie. It lures in Blissey more often than not and Scarf will render it useless.

 

[Mobile Tsk]

What are we in? 2007? Walls are not necessary. This is clearly an offensive team. lern2teambuild

But I agree. Too many choice users. Throw Trick over Psychic on Starmie. It lures in Blissey more often than not and Scarf will render it useless.

I may have over emphasized my point. Although walls would help this user if he really wants to utilize so many choice items. That way he could have something to stall/phaze out things that have setup on him. (Particularly those Agility users)

 

[Swampertrulz]

i already made those exact changes to Ambipom on my own. Much better. Im satisfied with canine, but peopl do abuse its choice. Metagross position is currently being fought for by flame orb heracross and choice hitmonlee. with hyperbeam, tests have proven it handy for its purpose-getting rid of pokemon thatNEED to die NOW. the assurance it provides is great. i would edit my original post but my computer crashed (this is from my phone) and this post was a pain on my phone, movesets would be worse

 

[Pokedra]

LO would be better on Ampipom.

I'd honestly run TPunch on Gross as it allows him to smach stuff like Gyarados but whatever.

Also, take Luke's suggestion with Trick > Psychic. You're not losing much coverage =]

Don't use Hyper Beam on P-Z, P-Z already sucks and even if you kill something they can set-up while you're recharging =/ Use Ice Beam over it and Tri Attack already packs a massive punch.

My biggest concern with team is that you're going to be switching alot with 4 choice users. This is when the opponent can set-up on you. I'd honestly turn CBGross into Agiligross so you have something to clean-up with. I don't think P-Z is doing much on this team, you could swap him out for something like Vapy which could take Water-attacks aimed at Arcanine and Ice-attacks aimed at Mence but it's your choice.

 

[Chaostorm]

Hyper Beam is not good ......

Modest over Timid on Starmie . it need an SpA boost to revenge kill

SD Luke is good over that Arcanine ...

 

[Calum.]

Im not too sure about Arcanine

Metagross/CB
Adament
Clear Body
252 Hp/236 Atk/12 Def/8 Spe
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Bullet Punch

248 HP / 236 Atk / 12 Def / 12 Spe

To outpace other Metagross

Starmie/Scarf
Timid
Natural Cure
4 Hp/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Psychic

Run 80 HP / 176 SpAtk / 252 Spe Modest

Outruns +1 Max Scarfed 100s (including Mence after a DD)

Also go Hydro Pump so you can OHKO 4 HP Tran

Trick over Psychic

Salamence/LO
Mild
Intimidate
84 Atk/216 SpA/208 Spe
-Outrage
-Fire Blast
-Earthquake
-Draco Meteor

Once again 80 Atk / 216 SpAtk / 212 Spe

Speed Game again. Tbh I prefer 116 Atk / 176 SpAtk / 216 Spe

 

[Swampertrulz]

(this is still from my phone) so im not going to edit my original post yet. my computer is almost back up. Ok, giving into peer pressure ill get rid of hyper beam. for ice beam. what else ummm im looking into SDLuke, but usually i like most of my teams to have a fire type on them, buttt watever. im looking into NPZelf for one of my special sweepers, to keep synergy with porygon z, as most people dont know about dark pulse. but thats a DEFINATE mayb. uuuhhh alsoooo the flash fire combo hasnt happened at all, so thats a turn off. andd scizor might finds its way onto the team maybe instead of arcanine cuz a CB bullet punch is fearsome but thats another uncertanty. maybe flame orb heracross too. but yea suggestions for a new fire type to replace what would b appreciated because more often than not ambi u turns to arcanine in the first turns of the game. hmmmmm : /

EDIT: Alright I edited my first post