Improving My Competitive Battling Team (OU)

[Dark Azelf]

So the solution is just to ban Darkrai ... ? there's not even a counter for it and its Dark Void ? D; & the sleep clause ... ? I don't get why a rule would be made like that >< The Sleep status was implemented into the game for a reason.

Anyways, what happens if they put more than one of my pokemon to sleep anyways, and break the rule? Do I continue to battle ?

There are counters for it (Scarf Primape with Vital Spirit is one) but Darkrai is uber/banned because it causes over centralization (having to use dumb stuff like Primape in OU shows this) and it can sweep with little effort and sleep everything as you have experienced with its blistering speed.

Sleep Clause makes the game balanced. Without the Sleep Clause the game would be centralized around sleep and trying to stop it. Sleep basically takes a poke out the match and is essentially a free kill, trying to counter sleepers without sleep clause is near impossible (lum/chesto, sleep talk on everything and scarce abilities like Vital Sprit show the lengths you must go and how difficult it is to stop sleepers). Just to clarify, Sleep Clause is you can only sleep one poke at a time, i.e if you kill the current sleeping poke or it wakes up you can sleep another.

And if the clause is broken/they use ubers you get a free auto win basically due to the other player being noob.


EDIT:

Also, i really dont want to keep saying this so ill caps it...BODY SLAM IS SUPERIOR TO SUCK TOSS ON MILTANK, DUE TO THE FACT THAT PARALYZING DARN NEAR EVERYTHING IS WHAT MAKES IT BROKEN IN NU.

 

[Peeeka Chooo]

There are counters for it (Scarf Primape with Vital Spirit is one) but Darkrai is uber/banned because it causes over centralization (having to use dumb stuff like Primape in OU shows this) and it can sweep with little effort and sleep everything as you have experienced with its blistering speed.

Sleep Clause makes the game balanced. Without the Sleep Clause the game would be centralized around sleep and trying to stop it. Sleep basically takes a poke out the match and is essentially a free kill, trying to counter sleepers without sleep clause is near impossible (lum/chesto, sleep talk on everything and scarce abilities like Vital Sprit show the lengths you must go and how difficult it is to stop sleepers). Just to clarify, Sleep Clause is you can only sleep one poke at a time, i.e if you kill the current sleeping poke or it wakes up you can sleep another.

And if the clause is broken/they use ubers you get a free auto win basically due to the other player being noob.


EDIT:

Also, i really dont want to keep saying this so ill caps it...BODY SLAM IS SUPERIOR TO SUCK TOSS ON MILTANK, DUE TO THE FACT THAT PARALYZING DARN NEAR EVERYTHING IS WHAT MAKES IT BROKEN IN NU.

Lol, I agree with the Edit 100%.

& also, I knew what the clause what, just wasn't sure why it was made, what it's purpose was, and what happened if someone broke it. Thanks for clarifying all that though.

One last thing; I'm planning on adding Drain Punch to Infernape. I noticed that Close Combat comes with a really high price - lower Def/Sp.Def . Drain Punch can do considerable damage while regaining health (;

 

[Dark Azelf]

Lol, I agree with the Edit 100%.

& also, I knew what the clause what, just wasn't sure why it was made, what it's purpose was, and what happened if someone broke it. Thanks for clarifying all that though.

One last thing; I'm planning on adding Drain Punch to Infernape. I noticed that Close Combat comes with a really high price - lower Def/Sp.Def . Drain Punch can do considerable damage while regaining health (;

Stick to CC, Power >> Suck. Drain Punch is weak and Ape cant use it effectively anyway because its so darn frail. Close Combats negative effects are moot since you can just switch in and out anyway to negate that.

 

[Peeeka Chooo]

Does it matter if I replace Hidden Power [Ice] with Ice Punch on Infernape ? ><

 

[Vrai]

Does it matter if I replace Hidden Power [Ice] with Ice Punch on Infernape ? ><

Infernape can't learn Ice Punch.

 

[Peeeka Chooo]

Infernape can't learn Ice Punch.

Oh right ><

'Cause I just found out my Infernape's Hidden Power type isn't Ice T____T
Any suggestions on a replacement for Hidden Power ? D;

 

[RTHookers]

You can use Nasty Plot seeing as your Infernape leans toward special attacking.

 

[Peeeka Chooo]

NEW TEAM ! Another OU Team for competitive battling (;
Please rate/comment and/or make suggestions !

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Careful Nature
Synchronize
252 HP / 92 Def / 164 Spd
- Taunt
- Mean Look
- Baton Pass
- Yawn
; Special wall, support . Mean Look passing . Yawn is to induce sleep I guess ;p

Milktank @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
Scrappy
252 HP / 108 Def / 148 Sp.Def (or should this go into speed?)
- Body Slam
- Toxic
- Heal BEll
- Milk Drink
; defensive wall/support.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
Natural Cure
172 HP / 216 Spd / 120 SAtk
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
; special sweeper, can also act as a revenge killer . rapin-spinner .

Weavile @ Expert Belt (I think I might switch this for some other Pokemon, please give suggestions !)
Jolly Nature
Pressure
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
- Pursuit
- Low Kick
- Ice Shard
- Ice Punch
; physical sweeper / revenge killer .

Roserade @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Timid Nature
4 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Sludge Bomb
- Toxic Spikes
; Sub-Leecher / Toxic-Spiker .

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Bold Nature
252 HP / 52 Def / 204 SpDef
- Fire Punch
- Shadow Punch
- Pain Split
- Trick Room
; any replacements for Trick Room ? I think it's good for Dusknoir though, considering its speed, I can Trick Room then Pain Split to recover from the damage taken during the first turn ;x

Thanks for rating my team (;