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3rd Gen Invincible Mightyena?

4 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spe if you're a Baton passer
48 HP/ 252 Atk/ 208 Spe otherwise.

~ Shadow Ball [Dark]
~ Hidden Power [Flying]
~ Earthquake [Ground]
~ Iron Tail [Iron]
Strong against:
Psychic
Ghost
Grass
Bug
Fighting
Rock
Ice
Fire
Poison
Steel
Electric
 
AuraAshley said:
again thats your opinion i still find that my stategy works pretty well. how often do you fight a gengar in the games anyway?
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You can use whatever moveset you want when you are playing against the pathetically weak in-game AI. I don't have a problem with that at all. When you say that moveset is the best for Mitghtyena, THAT is when I have a problem. The fact is it really isn't. It is a novelty moveset, nothing more.

I would challenge you to raise two Mightyena, one with your moveset and one with my suggested moveset (including nature and EV spread). Once that is complete, go take on the "elite" 4 with each one, but pay close attention to the following:

1. Record the time when each battle began, and also when each battle ended.
2. Record how many of each item you had to use (i.e. Full Restore, Revive, etc.)

Do that and I guarantee you that my moveset will not only take less time, but you will also use less items.

evilishan said:
4 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spe if you're a Baton passer
48 HP/ 252 Atk/ 208 Spe otherwise.

~ Shadow Ball [GHOST]
~ Hidden Power [Flying]
~ RETURN [NORMAL]
~ Iron Tail [Iron]
Strong against:
Psychic
Ghost
Grass
Bug
Fighting
Rock
Ice
Fire
Poison
Steel
Electric
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Sorry, I had to fix your post for you. Unfortunately, Mightyena is unable to legally learn as cool a move as Earthquake. Also, this is an in-game Mightyena so HP Flying would be way too complicated for him to get.
 
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shanecdavis said:
You can use whatever moveset you want when you are playing against the pathetically weak in-game AI. I don't have a problem with that at all. When you say that moveset is the best for Mitghtyena, THAT is when I have a problem. The fact is it really isn't. It is a novelty moveset, nothing more.

I would challenge you to raise two Mightyena, one with your moveset and one with my suggested moveset (including nature and EV spread). Once that is complete, go take on the "elite" 4 with each one, but pay close attention to the following:

1. Record the time when each battle began, and also when each battle ended.
2. Record how many of each item you had to use (i.e. Full Restore, Revive, etc.)

Do that and I guarantee you that my moveset will not only take less time, but you will also use less items.
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personally i dont think the games AI is as bad as you say it is so i had a challenge with my move set too
 
You don't? Really? Here are just a few of the differences you will find between battling the in-game AI and battling another person:

1. In-game AI Pokemon (outside of the Battle Frontier) do not have EV points.
2. In-game AI opponents RARELY will switch out if one of their Pokemon is inflicted with a status (i.e. Sleep, Burn, etc.). They will typically leave the affected Pokemon in until it faints.
3. In-game AI opponents RARELY have well-rounded teams. They typically all share a common weakness, especially all the gym trainers, the "elite" 4, and the especially the "champion".
4. In-game AI opponents will NEVER utilize specific strategies (i.e. Rest/Sleep Talk, Substitute/Focus Punch, Baton Pass, Spikes/Whirlwind, Curse/Rest, etc.) in order to win.
5. In-game AI Pokemon will not have a moveset that gives them the best type coverage.
6. In-game AI opponents will randomly attack using non-offensive moves, sometimes with moves that have absolutely no affect on your Pokemon (i.e. using Charge against a Swampert).

I am sure I could rattle off at least 10 more, but you get the idea. There is really a HUGE difference between battling the AI and battling against someone else. One of the many things I was hoping to see in DPP was a difficulty level that would at least make the game challenging for people older than 10. It just seems that they have forgotten that a lot of people that enjoy playing Pokemon have been around since RBY and really aren't 10 anymore.
 
Um sorry for the errors shanecdavis and others.
According to the adjusted movelist (again thanks) Mightyena is at most strong against:
Psychic
Ghost
Grass
Bug
Fighting
Rock
Ice
If only Mightyena could learn earthquake.
Swapping Crunch with Shadow ball could give Mightyena STAB + Keep the same strengths.
 
evilishan said:
Um sorry for the errors shanecdavis and others.
According to the adjusted movelist (again thanks) Mightyena is at most strong against:
Psychic
Ghost
Grass
Bug
Fighting
Rock
Ice
If only Mightyena could learn earthquake.
Swapping Crunch with Shadow ball could give Mightyena STAB + Keep the same strengths.
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I would stay with Shadow Ball. Mightyena's SAtk is too low for STAB to be of much benefit. CB Shadow Ball will do more damage.

Rainbow Lord said:
WOW!!!! I got SO many replies! I like Wolflare's idea but also Auraashley's? Which should I pick???
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Neither. Wolflare's is close, but since this is for in-game, getting HP Fighting with a decent AP takes A LOT of dedication and breeding. Unless you are willing to do that, I would go that shanecdavis guy's moveset. I am pretty sure his son, who really likes Mightyena, has used that moveset with great success.
 
Rainbow Lord said:
WOW!!!! I got SO many replies! I like Wolflare's idea but also Auraashley's? Which should I pick???
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Thnx.

Umm... Auraashley, Gengar pops up a lot in the metagame making it the most used Ghost ever. Besides, you can't even use that set since there is a thing called Evasion Clause... Plus it takes too long to set up, and he will probably get OHKOed before he could even do 2 Double Teams. Lucario can OHKO this with its resist to Toxic, and use Aura Sphere since t never misses, and it is Super Effective, and includes his STAB.
 
Rainbow Lord said:
O.k.
I'm going to try out Wolflare's idea and get back to all of you, O.k?
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Though, if it was for in-game, like storyline, then it wouldn't be great since CB locks you into one move. If this is competitive battling then that would be the best moveset for him I think, and I love Mightyena (obvious since my username used to be shadowmightyena! LOL)!
 
Well, here's how big of a Poochyena/Mightyena fan I am!!:)
I have:
Mightyena EX card
7 Different Mightyena/Poochyena cards
Mini Poochyena figure
Mightyena in EVERY one of my Pokemon Games ( One has all the Tough Ribbons)
Claimed Poochyena/Mightyena
Going to change my username to Poochyena in February
Have a Lv 103 (currently) Poochyena in Pokemon TPPC
Defeated all the Elite 4's with a Mightyena in my Team
So, yeah. lol
 
Rainbow Lord said:
Well, here's how big of a Poochyena/Mightyena fan I am!!:)
I have:
Mightyena EX card
7 Different Mightyena/Poochyena cards
Mini Poochyena Firgure
Mightyena in EVERY one of my Pokemon Games
Defeated all the Elite 4's with a Mightyena in my Team
So, yeah. lol
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I did all of those above! Except my name was shadowmightyena. I beat the E4 with a entire team of level 30 Mightyenas, yes, that low of lv., it was a challenge though.
 
shanecdavis said:
You don't? Really? Here are just a few of the differences you will find between battling the in-game AI and battling another person:

1. In-game AI Pokemon (outside of the Battle Frontier) do not have EV points.
2. In-game AI opponents RARELY will switch out if one of their Pokemon is inflicted with a status (i.e. Sleep, Burn, etc.). They will typically leave the affected Pokemon in until it faints.
3. In-game AI opponents RARELY have well-rounded teams. They typically all share a common weakness, especially all the gym trainers, the "elite" 4, and the especially the "champion".
4. In-game AI opponents will NEVER utilize specific strategies (i.e. Rest/Sleep Talk, Substitute/Focus Punch, Baton Pass, Spikes/Whirlwind, Curse/Rest, etc.) in order to win.
5. In-game AI Pokemon will not have a moveset that gives them the best type coverage.
6. In-game AI opponents will randomly attack using non-offensive moves, sometimes with moves that have absolutely no affect on your Pokemon (i.e. using Charge against a Swampert).

I am sure I could rattle off at least 10 more, but you get the idea. There is really a HUGE difference between battling the AI and battling against someone else. One of the many things I was hoping to see in DPP was a difficulty level that would at least make the game challenging for people older than 10. It just seems that they have forgotten that a lot of people that enjoy playing Pokemon have been around since RBY and really aren't 10 anymore.
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you know what you explained sounds like me except for number n9 plus another number not sure off top of my head.

personally the AI in the game was challenging and i just dont agree with you srry. i still think my strategy is pretty good.
 
The fact that you relate to most of that list explains why you find the AI challenging. No problem with that. Everyone has their own skill level. Unfortunately for those that are better skilled, it is difficult to obtain a challenge from the pathetic AI without making some drastic adjustments. For instance, when I play in-game, I am not allowed to level up my Pokemon any higher than the highest Pokemon that the current gym leader has. I also do not use any items during battle. No Potions, No Full Restore, NOTHING. A few things like that at least provide a little bit of a challenge.

I am also glad you enjoy your strategy and by all means continue to utilize it. Like I said, the only problem I had with that strategy is your presumption that it was the best.
 
shanecdavis said:
The fact that you relate to most of that list explains why you find the AI challenging. No problem with that. Everyone has their own skill level. Unfortunately for those that are better skilled, it is difficult to obtain a challenge from the pathetic AI without making some drastic adjustments. For instance, when I play in-game, I am not allowed to level up my Pokemon any higher than the highest Pokemon that the current gym leader has. I also do not use any items during battle. No Potions, No Full Restore, NOTHING. A few things like that at least provide a little bit of a challenge.

I am also glad you enjoy your strategy and by all means continue to utilize it. Like I said, the only problem I had with that strategy is your presumption that it was the best.
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well based on what you are saying you probably could beat me, seeing as i use a lot of items in gym battles and i do focus on round about training meaning i train each pokemon evenly
* lol i feel so old talk about this *
 
Round-about training is good. That is exactly what I do. I do it a little differently though, in that I am aware of what EV points a wild Pokemon will give me. If a wild Pokemon will give me points in a stat I don't want (i.e. Spd EV on Snorlax????), I will run, run away.

I also only use 2-3 Pokemon on my team through the game, along with a few HM slaves.

Thanks for the old comment too. heh
 
shanecdavis said:
Round-about training is good. That is exactly what I do. I do it a little differently though, in that I am aware of what EV points a wild Pokemon will give me. If a wild Pokemon will give me points in a stat I don't want (i.e. Spd EV on Snorlax????), I will run, run away.

I also only use 2-3 Pokemon on my team through the game, along with a few HM slaves.

Thanks for the old comment too. heh
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now heres the question that will make you laugh( and everyone else)

what are EV's? i never understood that

and np btw bout the comment
 
As we are now off-topic, I will reply to you elsewhere. I did have a write-up in Strategies & Movesets a few years ago, but it looks like it has been replaced with one that includes DDP.
 
shanecdavis said:
As we are now off-topic, I will reply to you elsewhere. I did have a write-up in Strategies & Movesets a few years ago, but it looks like it has been replaced with one that includes DDP.
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well if your gonna do a D/P move set then why not try this?

double team
toxic
giga impact
crunch
 
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