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Is global warming real?

Regarding another Ice Age, we are actually in an ice age right now!
 
Global Warming is Real.

That about sums up the purpose of this thread.

Causes of global warming is a different story.

Taking care of the earth MAY be a scam, but is it going to kill you if you make the effort of cleaning up you goddamn planet?
 
well duh global warming is real, so is everything else you can touch or happens.

Earth's climate is an enormous system and the whole basis of global warming is that humans are affecting the climate with their emissions. but so far there hasn't been real proof about how much our emissions actually contribute to GW. Yes, CO2 cause global warming but Earth also goes through natural warming periods and the climate can also shift in relatively short periods of time, years, decades.

jon328 said:
im in an AP Environmental Science class at my school and i can prove to you that global warming (or climate change as we call it) IS REAL.
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lmfao. yeah i took that class too and I got a 4 on the test and i'm also taking a atmospheric sci class in college...and what? there's no way GW can be explained with a few env sci classes
 
My stance on this has been aptly covered by The Cynic. Even so, if the ozone gets eaten through, and we are all doomed to burn alive, I won't care. I won't be alive then, so why care?
 
InMooseWeTrust said:
Because the people who believe in manmade global warming can't handle some real debate about stuff like geologic history, solar activity, and ice age cycles. Refer to my video in an earlier post, and try to argue against THAT. It's legitimate science.
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I beg to differ. If we wanted a real argument we'd pick a topic that was less one-sided. Global warming is real. If the topic was, what is the cause of global warming, then it would be slightly less one-sided.

But fact is, and the only answer to this topic, is that global warming is in fact real.

I'd go as far as to say the cause deserves it's own topic, if you asked me anyway.

Narcissus Secret said:
My stance on this has been aptly covered by The Cynic. Even so, if the ozone gets eaten through, and we are all doomed to burn alive, I won't care. I won't be alive then, so why care?
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Your future family / future friend's family will. :\ Just saying.
 
FreakyLocz14 said:
Regarding another Ice Age, we are actually in an ice age right now!
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Technically yes, but that's only because the Greenland and Northern Antarctic ice sheets have still to melt from the last ice age and so we are on the way out of our last ice age about 20,000 years ago. As I explained before, this is because the world is heating up for a number of reasons, the most prominent being the Milyankovich effect. To summarise it in layman's terms it is when the Earth, who's orbit is not perfect, "rolls, wobbles and tilts". This can have massive climatic effects. Another is geomagnetic reversal when the polarity of the earth's magnetosphere reverses, and the North pole becomes the South pole and vice-versa. During these intermediate periods, the climate is drastically changed as the earth's magnetic field strength rapidly decreases and then rapidly increases again.
 
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PkMnTrainer Yellow said:
What I don't get is how taking better care of the earth is a scam.

I assure everyone here that if we aren't careful with our environment we can and will destroy it very quickly. Though, Global Warming probably wouldn't be the cause of such a quick demise. Probably something more along the lines of pollutants getting through filters and into the water supply and food, nuclear accidents, things like that.

We already do a great deal to take care of it. Why not do more? We're only helping ourselves.

So I ask... How is this a scam?
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Probably the carbon credits program.
Example: Consider a business that owns a factory putting out 100,000 tons of greenhouse gas emissions in a year. Its government is an Annex I country that enacts a law to limit the emissions that the business can produce. So the factory is given a quota of say 80,000 tons per year. The factory either reduces its emissions to 80,000 tons or is required to purchase carbon credits to offset the excess. After costing up alternatives the business may decide that it is uneconomical or infeasible to invest in new machinery for that year. Instead it may choose to buy carbon credits on the open market from organizations that have been approved as being able to sell legitimate carbon credits. (Stealing wikipedia material.)
 
I love how people who disbelieve in it have provided proof and everyone who doesn't believe is just saying "I'm right, accept it".

Funny that.
 
I'm somewhere in between. I think its occurring, yeah. Are humans solely to blame? No, I don't think so. We kinda have a history going on of shifts in climate. I don't think we're solely responsible for global warming, but we're probably escalating it a bit. So, do what you can. I really don't think its the end of the world, there would be a much bigger fuss.

I'm fine with most of the environmentally-friendly stuff, not so much to prevent global warming, but to ensure I and future generations don't live in a world of smog and pollution. Not good for your health.
 
Sneeze said:
I love how people who disbelieve in it have provided proof and everyone who doesn't believe is just saying "I'm right, accept it".

Funny that.
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That's because the "proof" provided isn't necessarily from a reliable source (unless you'd consider YouTube a "citable" source?).
In fact, the "scholarly" evidence that I've come in contact with is amazingly one-sided.

That's the sad thing about this whole debate... there's too much politics and not enough science. Politics corrupts everything. :P It's a lot like religion: people don't think for themselves anymore. The kids that come from families that don't believe it will usually also not believe it; not because they know anything about it, but because they were raised that way (basic psychological behaviorism) and that's what they were told to believe.

My beef is that I wish people just made up their own mind. I don't even care what side of the argument you go towards, just think for yourself.

As a scientist, you're taught to question everything. Nothing is "True" (note the capital T). We can, however, gather evidence to provide a convergence. It's like a limit in mathematics. It converges to an average value, and that's what you go with, because the True value will never (and can never) really be known.

Now, as far as Global Warming and human's impact on the environment, the evidence we have converges more towards the "Yeah, something ain't right" side rather than the "No, it's total fantasy" side. Along with the chemistry that takes place (in conjecture with the chemicals that we put into the atmosphere), the probability increases quite a bit that, yeah, something ain't right.
 
My Geography teacher says that we're still coming out of an Ice Age and not Global Warming at all. Though, I couldn't care less about the thing, though I try to look after the environment.
 
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