It'll be a miracle..

[flamehaze94]

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Forretress @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252HP / 44Atk / 112Def / 92SpDef
Relaxed nature(+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Light Screen
- Toxic Spikes

in theory, beats up all but Magnet Rise Maggies
Toxic Spikes is some fun stuff
Spinner, ya say?!

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Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 176HP / 132SpAtk / 200Spd
Timid nature(+Spd, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Recover

Everything counter ~Starmie
Outspeeds and counters both Garchomp and Ape

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Gliscor @ Leftovers
Trait: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252HP / 180Def / 76Spd
Impish nature(+Def,-SpAtk)
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Baton Pass
- Roost

SD passing is serious buisness
Can beat both Hera and Loom
Can still somewhat sweep with SD EQ..

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Heracross @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 100HP / 252Atk / 156Spd
Adamant nature(+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Facade
- Pursuit

like WHOA!!!
with SD passes, this thing juggernauts everything
Gliscor/Weezing both get killed by Facade
and that, young lad, means gg

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Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Seene Grace
EVs: 240HP / 96Def / 36SpDef / 136Spd
Careful nature(+SpDef, -SpAtk)
- Wish
- U-Turn
- Ice Punch / Zen Headbutt
- Body Slam

Jirachi's always been very cool,
Wonderful Wisher, MOAR PARAHAX0RZ!
Very cool.

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Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 162HP / 112Def / 224SpD
Careful nature(+SpDef, -SpAtk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Whirlwind / Crunch
- Return

LOLWUT? YOUR ENTIRE TEAM IS POISONED?!
Yes, (P)hazes to rack up poison, beats Heatran, beats Forretress and STAB Return hurtzzz

 

[Iceman3k]

Using my Anti-Image Quote Machine 8)

Forretress @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252HP / 44Atk / 112Def / 92SpDef
Relaxed nature(+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Light Screen
- Toxic Spikes

in theory, beats up all but Magnet Rise Maggies
Toxic Spikes is some fun stuff
Spinner, ya say?!
I guess, although Toxic Spikes only makes Heracross happy.


Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 176HP / 132SpAtk / 200Spd
Timid nature(+Spd, -Atk)
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Recover

Everything counter ~Starmie
Outspeeds and counters both Garchomp and Ape
It's not countering Infernape with 80% Acc. I'll tell you that.

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Trait: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252HP / 180Def / 76Spd
Impish nature(+Def,-SpAtk)
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Baton Pass
- Roost

SD passing is serious buisness
Can beat both Hera and Loom
Can still somewhat sweep with SD EQ..
Hera, yes, but I don't see it anywhere in reality matching up with Breloom and Spore =/

Heracross @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 100HP / 252Atk / 156Spd
Adamant nature(+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Facade / Stone Edge
- Pursuit

like WHOA!!!
with SD passes, this thing juggernauts everything
Gliscor/Weezing both get killed by Facade
and that, young lad, means gg
UnStabbed Facade just to kill Gliscor and Weezing, hell no
It's like, using Rock Slide to hit Flying Types with 10 less power.
Keep it if you want, but in all reality, you should consider Stone Edge.
Oh, and more HP since Speed's not going to save its life in any way, shape or form.


Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Seene Grace
EVs: 240HP / 96Def / 36SpDef / 136Spd
Careful nature(+SpDef, -SpAtk)
- Wish
- U-Turn
- Zen Headbutt
- Body Slam

Jirachi's always been very cool,
Wonderful Wisher, MOAR PARAHAX0RZ!
Very cool.
Zen Headbutt stays.


Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 162HP / 112Def / 224SpD
Careful nature(+SpDef, -SpAtk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Whirlwind / Crunch
- Return

LOLWUT? YOUR ENTIRE TEAM IS POISONED?!
Yes, (P)hazes to rack up poison, beats Heatran, beats Forretress and STAB Return hurtzzz
I would say, Eww Sleep Talk, but uh, I dunno anymore.

This team is like, 6 levels of weird o.O
All I can say is don't let Gliscor die or else Scarfed Heracross will have a parade with nonstop Close Combat.

 

[shadow_ki6]

umm this might be just me
but shouldn't heracross have jolly as its nature or be holding choice scarf
so that it can outrun more pokemon/treats
giving it a better ability to sweep xD

 

[Kittyipawd]

yeah ifheracross gets OHKO'ed by somone who outspeeds him quipped with fire , flying move it wiill put your work in the trash i say agilty over swords dance , just predicted and try to get on a WoW

 

[Iceman3k]

The only way to use CB Heracross is through The Art of the Predictive Eye. It's far too slow to rely on Speed, even with a Jolly Nature.

If someone is going to use Heracross for Speed, let them run Adamant w/Choice Scarf.

 

[Arcknight316]

Passing to Choice Sets doesn't really work.

 

[Samson]

i don't know why people say that. regardless, being able to pass swords dance gives your team a whole lot diversity and allows heracross to OHKO-2HKO what it usually wouldn't. it doesn't matter if it has CB. CB just allows it to not completely depend on getting an attack boost if gliscor can't make its way into battle.

how exactly does snorlax beat heatran? heatran just continually uses Earth Power while snorlax does pitiful NVE hits to it. it would be able to take heatran out if stealth rock was out rather toxic spikes, but unfortunately, you seem confident in toxic spikes. you completely rely on starmie to take heatran out in that case.

the biggest issue that i see with this team is that it is much too physical based. once starmie is out of the picture, your team would really have an issue with skarmory. you'd have to depend on parahax from jirachi to prevent it from stalling a lot of damage out of your team.

 

[Archer]

i don't know why people say that. regardless, being able to pass swords dance gives your team a whole lot diversity and allows heracross to OHKO-2HKO what it usually wouldn't. it doesn't matter if it has CB. CB just allows it to not completely depend on getting an attack boost if gliscor can't make its way into battle.

It can work, but you risk losing the boost to a switch

how exactly does snorlax beat heatran? heatran just continually uses Earth Power while snorlax does pitiful NVE hits to it. it would be able to take heatran out if stealth rock was out rather toxic spikes, but unfortunately, you seem confident in toxic spikes. you completely rely on starmie to take heatran out in that case.

the biggest issue that i see with this team is that it is much too physical based. once starmie is out of the picture, your team would really have an issue with skarmory. you'd have to depend on parahax from jirachi to prevent it from stalling a lot of damage out of your team.

This team needs a another Special/Mixed Sweeper. Cant think who to remove... Both of the phys walls are sort of involved in its strategy.

 

[Anti]

Samson, people say that because...well, example:

You use Ambipom (<3) to pass nasty plot to your Specs Pory Z, and you outpredict your opponent and OHKO their switch-in with thunderbolt. Then Swampert comes in and you lose your boost.

While on some occasions it could be okay, it generally gives your opponent a set-up turn or let a powerful attacker destroy your switch-in.

Oh, don't forget HP Fire Magnezone which destroys Forry...though those are too rare to really mention anyways.

A bit of a Vire Weakness (well, the ones that carry a fire move anyways), but not so bad.

And you should copyright the saying "this thing juggernauts everything." It made me lol so hard lol

 

[flamehaze94]

Using my Anti-Image Quote Machine 8)
This team is like, 6 levels of weird o.O
All I can say is don't let Gliscor die or else Scarfed Heracross will have a parade with nonstop Close Combat.

Thank you?

umm this might be just me
but shouldn't heracross have jolly as its nature or be holding choice scarf
so that it can outrun more pokemon/treats
giving it a better ability to sweep xD

Scarf ties with Focus Sash at being one of the worst idems ever indroduced in D/P.

yeah ifheracross gets OHKO'ed by somone who outspeeds him quipped with fire , flying move it wiill put your work in the trash i say agilty over swords dance , just predicted and try to get on a WoW

*See last response*

Passing to Choice Sets doesn't really work.

Of course, but it does have it's merits.

After an SD, CB Megahorn even has a chance to 2HKO Dusknoir, so I'm not worried, and what ghosts can get past Lax?

i don't know why people say that. regardless, being able to pass swords dance gives your team a whole lot diversity and allows heracross to OHKO-2HKO what it usually wouldn't. it doesn't matter if it has CB. CB just allows it to not completely depend on getting an attack boost if gliscor can't make its way into battle.

^Everything here is true =)

how exactly does snorlax beat heatran? heatran just continually uses Earth Power while snorlax does pitiful NVE hits to it. it would be able to take heatran out if stealth rock was out rather toxic spikes, but unfortunately, you seem confident in toxic spikes. you completely rely on starmie to take heatran out in that case.

Stall it out of Fire Blast PP with ReSTalk and maybe (P)haze it out. Without Explosion or Metal Sound, it cannot beat Lax.

the biggest issue that i see with this team is that it is much too physical based. once starmie is out of the picture, your team would really have an issue with skarmory. you'd have to depend on parahax from jirachi to prevent it from stalling a lot of damage out of your team.

I just may consider Thunder>Body Slam then on Jirachi.

This team needs a another Special/Mixed Sweeper. Cant think who to remove... Both of the phys walls are sort of involved in its strategy.

Why? Heracross beats every single physical wall in existance.


@ Anti: I'm only weak to Flamethower carrying Vires and how many people do have one? Though for the stanard MixVire, I EVed Foretress to survive 3 LO boosted Thunderbolts with Light Screen, while I 2HKO with EQ. And between LO recoil and Toxic Spikes, he won't be along very much. So meh.