Just wondering what your thinking...[OU+UU]

[FirelordBlaze]

OK, so its been a while since I formed a team, and this is what I was thinking. It uses both OU and UU PKMN. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Team Overview​

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Yanmega@Expert Belt
Speed Boost
Modest
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Protect
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Hidden Power [Ice]

Yanmega here is my lead. His speed and variety of attacks have helped me take out numerous pokemon in the past. Protect then sweep for a bit.

Blaziken@Choice Scarf
Blaze
Adament
44 HP / 252 Atk / 212 Spe
Sky Uppercut
Flare Blitz
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Blaziken, one of my favorites, and my physical attacker. Yes, yes I know Infernape is better and more widly used, but Blaziken does have greater attack stats. He has shown he can hold his own too.

Jolteon@Focus Sash
Volt Absorb
Modest
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Baton Pass
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power [Ice]

A pretty standard Jolteon with some personal changes. Modest over timid because I perfer the power, and focus sash because a lot of the time, Jolteon can be killed in one hit. It is also quite a surprise for most.:laugh:

Slowbro@Leftovers
Own Tempo
Bold
212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SpA
Slack Off
Calm Mind
Surf
Hidden Power [Electric]

Slowbro, my physical wall. Bulky water pokemon, and can take a variety of hits. Although its water/psychic typing does give some unwanted weakness, it still gets the job done. Calm Mind lets it take hits well from both sides, and lets it hit back harder than before. I'm not sure which of the last moves to use though...

Gengar@Choice Scarf
Levitate
Modest
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Hidden Power [Ice]
Thunderbolt

Gengar, a fast and powerful special sweeper. Gengar has helped me for a long time, and I'm sure it will continue to. Great type coverage.

Scizor @ Choice Band
Technician
Adament
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
U-Turn
Bullet Punch
Superpower
Pursuit

Scizor allows me to hit from the physical side, and lowers the overwhelming number of special sweepers that were on this team. He hits hard with choice band and fast with bullet punch.

Edit: Slowbro has been changed to include calm mind.
Edit: Slowking has been removed, and Scizor added to give another physical sweeper.
Edit: Scizor has been given pursuit instead of aerial ace.

Thanks for all the advice.

 

[Paradox Dragonite]

Hm... your team is 3/6 weak to Electric types. Not a good idea. I suggest picking one of the slow brothers and replacing the other with something else. I recommend keeping Slowking and giving it Curse, in order to take hits from both sides. And if you're using Curse, you may as well go ahead and add Avalanche to that set. Unfortunately, it doesn't get Waterfall, so it looks like you'd have to make do with ZenButt for STAB, or pick from Focus Punch, Brick Break, Return, Earthquake, and, if you're in Platinum, Dive. You want to keep Slack Off to heal off damage, though.

You also seem to have mostly sweepers in your team. While the metagame is pretty focused on sweepers, it always helps to have some kind of wall or sponge to take hits and/or stall something out. For the purpose of your team, I'd go with something that resists Electric.

ScarfGar is commonly used as a lead with Hypnosis, and it's usually picked over Yanmega for such a reason. Jolteon doesn't really need Baton Pass unless it's actually passing something or you're afraid of Pursuit. Blaziken I see no problem in using, so long as you know the threshold you have to hit to outspeed certain Pokemon with Scarf.

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

Oh, here's a big one: massive Pursuit weak with ScarfGar (if it's locked into, say, HPIce against enemy Scizor), Slowbro and Slowking.

 

[randomspot555]

Focus Sash on anything that isn't a starter will be a waste due to Stealth Rock and sand stream.

 

[Dark Azelf]

So you are gonna use 5 special sweepers ?

*Sigh*

If Blissey has Thunderwave, it proceeds to destroys and cripples your WHOLE team.

Needs more physical power. Thats right, you have a Blissey weakness lol

 

[Pokedra]

~If Blaziken goes down. You'll never get past Blissey, replace Slowbro or Slowking with something like Scizor, Kingdra or Heracross.
~I'd run Timid over Modest as the extra speed helps outspeed some threats but its up to you.
~Personally I'd get rid of Slowking for Blissey, people may not like to use her because she's so damn popular but there's no denying that she's the best special wall avaliable and better then Slowking :/

 

[FirelordBlaze]

Ok, so the major problem with my team is that it is too special oriented. I have already thought of this, and knew it would come up. I was thinking about replacing slowking with scizor, but then i really dont have a pokemon to take special attacks. Any suggestions?

Oh, and I know about the glaring weakness to electric moves. I planed to expliot that weakness with jolteon's ability. And about the baton pass on jolteon, a friend told me to do it. Any opinions?

Thanks for rating

 

[Paradox Dragonite]

Baton Pass with no stat boost will only really help you in the sense that using it will allow Jolt to be switched out without getting hit by Pursuit. And if you're planning to abuse Volt Absorb (which only heals up to 25%), you need something that is REALLY Electric bait, like Gyarados. xD Electivire pulls off the Electric absorbtion abuse better, since it can switch in on Thunder Wave, get that speed boost, and proceed to utterly destroy things BUT only if it's Adamant. Jolly allows it to outspeed everything after a Motor Drive boost, but lacks the power to OHKO certain things.

 

[FirelordBlaze]

ok, so maybe replace jolteon with electivre? or even if i keep jolteon, what move should replace baton pass?

 

[Lila]

ok, so maybe replace jolteon with electivre? or even if i keep jolteon, what move should replace baton pass?

Signal Beam is an option, and it will guarantee OHKO'ing pokemon like Celebi and Cacturn who have a 4x Bug-type weakness, and it is also useful for taking down other pokemon with Bug weaknesses if your other moves will only do neutral/not very effective damage, I guess.

You don't really need to get rid of Baton Pass, since Signal Beam doesn't provide a lot of coverage, and Baton Pass allows you to sort of scout for moves and to switch to something that'll take very little / no damage from the incoming attack. Jolteon has a very small move-pool, especially when it comes to offensive moves, so you don't have many options. :P

Electivire could be a good option, especially since it has high Attack, so you could use it as a physical sweeper, which your team could take great advantage of. :)

 

[Barney.]

You need more physical power..As people have said...

But you're afraid of getting rid of a wall?

ResTalk Machamp could work > Slowbro.

Machamp @ Leftovers
Adamant
No Guard
216Def/252Hp/36Atk/6Spe
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Stone Edge/Ice Punch/Payback
-Dynamic Punch

Just a thought..As it can be a physical threat of some sorts and a physical wall.

 

[FirelordBlaze]

thank you for your opinion on the whole jolteon/electivire issue Lila. I think I might go with electivire since i need physical support anyway.

Korova, I like the idea for the machamp, but I would perfer to keep slowbro and ditch slowking. Would it work just as well if the ev's were invested in special defence instead? Im not too familiar with machamp, so i dont really know.

 

[Anti]

thank you for your opinion on the whole jolteon/electivire issue Lila. I think I might go with electivire since i need physical support anyway.

Ew ew ew stop right now. Electivire is THE worst OU physical sweeper. Even Weavile is better. If you're going to use Electivire, use the mixed sweeper instead since it actually has a chance of doing something. SpecsJolt is usually better than either one but that's your call. Just don't use physical Electivire.

Oh, and the previous poster is pretty much wrong about Signal Beam. Celebi can actually survive the attack and Cresselia takes NOTHING. You're better off with Flamethrower for Celebi (which is a 2HKO) and just switching out if Cresselia arrives, lol.

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

You are weak indeed to Tyranitar Dragon Dancer with Crunch when your Blaziken has been sent K.O., enough that he succeed in also using Dragon Dance and the team destroys you in the turn of few turns, even a Swampert to the place of Slowbro can surely be you of help in waxes situations.

 

[FirelordBlaze]

Thank you for the rate and opinion Anti, and I do really like Jolteon, so ill stick with him for now.

I had an idea, and was wondering if it was a good one. Give Slowbro calm mind to give support from both sides, and scrap Slowking for a physical attacker such as Scizor. That way Slowbro can take most attacks, and my physical side gets a much needed boost. What do you guys think of that?

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

Baton Pass with no stat boost will only really help you in the sense that using it will allow Jolt to be switched out without getting hit by Pursuit. And if you're planning to abuse Volt Absorb (which only heals up to 25%), you need something that is REALLY Electric bait, like Gyarados. xD Electivire pulls off the Electric absorbtion abuse better, since it can switch in on Thunder Wave, get that speed boost, and proceed to utterly destroy things BUT only if it's Adamant. Jolly allows it to outspeed everything after a Motor Drive boost, but lacks the power to OHKO certain things.

lol no all physical evire is a joke, he can't even OHKO Gliscor with Life Orb.
Not to mention, Rhyperior, Swampert, Hippowdon, Tangrowth, Weezing, Cresselia, heck even Dusknoir all stop all physical Vire cold.

 

[Azonic]

Blissey slaps Yanmega, eats Jolteon, pounces on Slowbro, rapes Gengar, and smokes Slowking. Seriously, five special attackers? Change the lineup. XD;

Your walling is poor, because both Slowbro and Slowking are your only Pokemon to take hits, and both of them share the same weaknesses.

ScarfGar is ancient.

Jolteon with Baton Pass but nothing to pass ... um ...

Get a Blissey to cover your Blissey weak lol

 

[FirelordBlaze]

Cherii, Im aware of the overuse of special sweepers, trying to add more physical sweepers in. suggestions would be nice. Im also aware that slowbro and slowking share the same weaknesses, thats why i am trying to find a replacement. for example, maybe calm mind slowbro and a physical attacker were king was. Does ancient mean bad? or just not used anymore? and jolteon uses baton pass to switch out and avoid pursuit and scout, but if you have a better move, please suggest it.

thanks for the rate.

Changes have been made to improve the balance of the team. what do you think?

 

[Dark Azelf]

Cherii, Im aware of the overuse of special sweepers, trying to add more physical sweepers in. suggestions would be nice. Im also aware that slowbro and slowking share the same weaknesses, thats why i am trying to find a replacement. for example, maybe calm mind slowbro and a physical attacker were king was. Does ancient mean bad? or just not used anymore? and jolteon uses baton pass to switch out and avoid pursuit and scout, but if you have a better move, please suggest it.

thanks for the rate.

Changes have been made to improve the balance of the team. what do you think?

Done double post please.


In regards to Scizor you may want to consider Pursuit >> Aerial Ace because that is one of CB Scizors biggest selling points.

 

[FirelordBlaze]

sorry about the double post. wont do it again, promise.

Pursuit makes a lot of sense, Ill change that right away. Thanks for that bit of info.

Anyone have any idea on what move slowbro should use in its last slot? I'm not really sure. I'm leaning towards psychic.