LeafGreen In-Game Team

[Crimson Majestic]

Well, I tried as best I can to restrict this down to only LeafGreen influence but I needed an Arbok from my friend's FireRed game to make this completely possible. Anyway, here it is...

*Jolteon @ Leftovers
-Nature: Modest (+SPCL ATK, - ATK)
-Ability: Volt Absorb
-EVs: 140 HP / 252 SPCL ATK / 116 SPD
-Moveset:
Substitute
Baton Pass
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt

Self-Explanatory

*Venusaur @ Leftovers
-Nature: Bold (+DEF, -ATK)
-Ability: Overgrow
-EVs: 104 HP / 124 DEF / 100 SPCL ATK / 92 SPCL DEF / 88 SPD
-Moveset:
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Razor Leaf
Synthesis

He serves as a Tank and Grass-type coverage.

*Starmie @ Leftovers
-Nature: Modest (+SPCL ATK, - ATK)
-Ability: Natural Cure
-EVs: 136 HP / 252 SPCL ATK / 122 SPD
-Moveset:
Surf
Psychic
Ice Beam
Recover

Where's the BoltBeam? I decided to give Jolteon a bit more use. And besides, Recover is always nice for that tight spot. The rest is pretty much self-explanatory.

*Tyranitar @ Leftovers
-Nature: Adamant (+ATK, -SPCL ATK)
-Ability: Sand Stream
-EVs: 4 HP / 252 ATK / 252 SPD
-Moveset:
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break

Self-Explanatory

*Weezing @ Leftovers
-Nature: Relaxed (+DEF, -SPD)
-Ability: Levitate
-EVs: 252 HP / 28 ATK / 156 DEF / 72 SPCL ATK
-Moveset:
Fire Blast
Sludge Bomb
Pain Split
Haze

He serves as a Hazing Physical Wall alongside Snorlax as support.

*Snorlax @ Leftovers
-Nature: Sassy (+SPCL DEF, - SPD)
-Ability: Thick Fat
-EVs: 132 HP / 48 ATK / 128 DEF / 200 SPCL DEF
-Moveset:
Curse
Return
Shadow Ball
Rest

I suppose a Special Cursed wall will do here. Yeah, I'm sort of having EV issues here so help and/or praise is appreciated.

Oh yeah, I would appreciate it if you guys could give me suggestions on item diversity and perhaps some better EV distribution. Even though I spent an hour or so on those I'm sure that I went astray somewhere.

 

[Ultimatelugia]

Well you could give snorlax a chesto berry and dragonite a sitrus berry and maybe give someone a hondew

 

[Crimson Majestic]

Why would I have one of my Pokemon hold a Pokeblock? o.0

 

[Lord Mike]

Well, I tried as best I can to restrict this down to only LeafGreen influence but I needed an Arbok from my friend's FireRed game to make this completely possible. Anyway, here it is...

*Jolteon @ Leftovers
-Nature: Modest (+SPCL ATK, - ATK) / Timid (+SPD, -ATK)
-Ability: Volt Absorb
-EVs: 140 HP, 252 SPCL ATK, 116 SPD / 116 HP, 252 SPCL ATK, 140 SPD
-Moveset:
Substitute
Baton Pass
Thunder Wave / Wish
Thunderbolt

Agility is possible here...

Obviously he's my opener which has the purpose of BPing Substitute. What I'm struggling with is either have Thunder Wave or Wish as the third slot, whether to give the BPed Pokemon a SPD advantage (somewhat) or allow some recovery to take place the turnafter.

*Venusaur @ Leftovers
-Nature: Bold (+DEF, -ATK)
-Ability: Overgrow
-EVs: 104 HP, 124 DEF, 100 SPCL ATK, 92 SPCL DEF, 88 SPD
-Moveset:
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Giga Drain
Synthesis

Cool.

He serves as a Tank and a Drainer, as you can see by the EV distribution, Nature, and moveset. I like it that way it is but whatever... maybe EV help?

*Starmie @ Leftovers
-Nature: Modest (+SPCL ATK, - ATK)
-Ability: Natural Cure
-EVs: 136 HP, 252 SPCL ATK, 122 SPD
-Moveset:
Surf
Psychic
Ice Beam
Recover

Good, but I like T-bolt>Psychic.

Where's the BoltBeam? I decided to give Jolteon a bit more use. And besides, Recover is always nice for that tight spot. The rest is pretty much self-explanatory.

*Tyranitar @ Shell Bell/Leftovers
-Nature: Jolly (+SPD, -SPCL ATK)
-Ability: Sand Stream
-EVs: 4 HP, 252 ATK, 252 SPD
-Moveset:
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break/Focus Punch

Good, since Taunt isn't really needed in-game.

The big question: Shell Bell or Leftovers? I struggle with this because I'm sick of all the Leftovers and I wanted to try something different, considering Tyranitar will deal an enormous magnitude to opponents. As far as Focus Punch is concerned, I thought about using that with Jolteon and Substitute but I don't know if it's worth the execution or not.

*Dragonite @ Leftovers
-Nature: Neutral
-Ability: Inner Focus
-EVs: 32 HP, 80 ATK, 232 SPCL ATK, 164 SPD
-Moveset:
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Wing Attack
Haze

Eww. You were doing ok until now. You can use BOAHNite, which is Sub/Focus Punch/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt or DDNite which is Dragon Dance/Aerial Ace/Earthquake/Thunder. Btw, Leftovers is fine. Don't listen the Ultimatelugia when he says to put Sitrus Berry in on it.

Yeah, I decided to make him my Hazer and Mixed Sweeper. I know, go ahead and hate on the Wing Attack. I didn't want to be redundant with Earthquake and Rock Slide, and I wanted a Flying move in this team so there. If I obtain the maximum powered HP Flying then I'll change it then otherwise Wing Attack stays. Why not Aerial Ace? I didn't want to waste the TM on this when I can put Aerial Ace to better use.

*Snorlax @ Leftovers/Chesto Berry
-Nature: Impish
-Ability: Thick Fat
-EVs: 104 HP, 84 ATK, 196 DEF, 124 SPCL DEF
-Moveset:
Curse
Return
Shadow Ball
Rest

Leftovers. Don't listen to that noob Ultimatelugia...

I needed a filler so there. And besides, Snorlax kicks butt. One more question, is Leftovers really worth the wait or would Chesto Berry suffice?

Oh yeah, I would appreciate it if you guys could give me suggestions on item diversity and perhaps some better EV distribution. Even though I spent an hour or so on those I'm sure that I went astray somewhere.

Pretty good except for Dragonite.

 

[aragornbird]

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*Jolteon @ Leftovers
-Nature: Timid (+SPD, -ATK)
-Ability: Volt Absorb
-EVs: 140 HP, 252 SPCL ATK, 116 SPD / 116 HP, 252 SPCL ATK, 140 SPD
-Moveset:
Substitute
Baton Pass
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt

Vaporeon and Umbreon are good Wishers. Jolteon is not do to its low defense. At least 373 Speed depending on your IVs.

*Venusaur @ Leftovers
-Nature: Careful (+SDEF, -SATK)
-Ability: Overgrow
-EVs: 104 HP, 124 DEF, 100 SPCL ATK, 92 SPCL DEF, 88 SPD
-Moveset:
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb
Synthesis

I prefer Sludge Bomb over Giga Drain or else other Grass types will give you trouble. Make it Careful with enough EVs in Sp. Def for 300. Put in a lot of HP and Def EVs, and you don't really need Attack EVs at all.

*Starmie @ Leftovers
-Nature: Modest (+SPCL ATK, - ATK)
-Ability: Natural Cure
-EVs: 136 HP, 252 SPCL ATK, 122 SPD
-Moveset:
Surf
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Recover

Meh, I still prefer Thunderbolt over Psychic. It's your chance to take down common Waters like Milotic and Gyarados, whereas Jolteon will just take damage during the switch-in.

*Tyranitar @ Shell Bell/Leftovers
-Nature: Adamant
-Ability: Sand Stream
-EVs: 4 HP, 252 ATK, 252 SPD
-Moveset:
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break/Focus Punch

Leftovers will always give you constant recovery. Adamant is preffered over Jolly.

*Dragonite @ Leftovers
-Nature: Brave
-Ability: Inner Focus
-EVs: 32 HP, 80 ATK, 232 SPCL ATK, 164 SPD
-Moveset:
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Substitute
Focus Punch

Don't ever use Neutral natures. Draggy isn't much of a phazer as it has no resistances against common stat-boosters (i.e. Snorlax). Attacking is its thing. FlameClaw can work, and you'll need SubPunch to take care of special walls.

*Snorlax @ Leftovers
-Nature: Careful
-Ability: Thick Fat
-EVs: 104 HP, 84 ATK, 196 DEF, 124 SPCL DEF
-Moveset:
Curse
Return
Earthquake
Rest

Leftovers always, especially since Sandstream will screw you over if you don't have it. Earthquake > Shadow Ball most of the time. And Snorlax should always be Careful.

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[Crimson Majestic]

Alright, thanks for the criticisms. Now time for me to fill in...

*Jolteon
Agility sounds tempting but I don't want it to get pHazed away. Besides, Thunder Wave works just as nicely for the opponent. Timid? Why the need when Thunder Wave'll tremendously lower your opponent's SPD. And why not make most of Thunderbolt?

*Venusaur
Shouldn't I raise its DEF a bit to catch up to its SPCL DEF to make it a most efficient Tanker? And as far as Sludge Bomb is concerned, wouldn't I have the same problem against other Poisons? Besides, Giga Drain helps serve its purpose of also being a Drainer.

*Starmie
Psychic and Thunderbolt are debatable, IMO. I want Psychic to take out some of those pesky Fighting and Poison pokemon out there (Gengar, Heracross, Weezing, and friends) while I can see that there a lot of Waters that needed to be taken out of the picture. To be or not to be...

*Tyranitar
Yeah, when I think about it Adamant sounds a bit more intuitive since it needs the ATK since it's not only a Physical Sweeper, but its SPD can't really catch up to its ATK. Oh, and which one would you guys think fit better: Brick Break or Focus Punch?

*Dragonite
I needed a pHazer and a Mixed Sweeper so there. Any suggestions on either? I would prefer if Snorlax would be taken out since he's my filler but whatever makes the team look better.

*Snorlax
I already have Earthquake covered by a reliable source so why get stuck on pokes like Gengar? Like I said earlier, he's a filler so replace this first if possible.

BTW, you guys can help me on my EV distribution. I would appreciate that too. I'll put updates on my team post.

 

[aragornbird]

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*Jolteon
Why the need when Thunder Wave'll tremendously lower your opponent's SPD. And why not make most of Thunderbolt?
Your Jolteon may have a bad Speed IV and it won't be able to outspeed the Pokemon it should outspeed like Gengar, Starmie, and Dugtrio.

You aren't gonna be using T-Wave unless it's absolutely necessary. You're gonna be either:

A) Using T-bolt because it's supereffective against your opponent
or
B) Using Sub because your opponent is going to switch out.
T-Wave is just a filler move. That spot usually goes to HP Ice/Grass in NB.

*Venusaur
Shouldn't I raise its DEF a bit to catch up to its SPCL DEF to make it a most efficient Tanker? And as far as Sludge Bomb is concerned, wouldn't I have the same problem against other Poisons? Besides, Giga Drain helps serve its purpose of also being a Drainer.
FYI, Drainer is not a role. Also, in most cases, you boost a Pokemon's best stat with a nature, so you can better invest EVs in other stats. Obvious exceptions to this rule are Pokemon like Blissey and Vaporeon.
Besides, Venusaur has more Special weaknesses than physical.
Poisons aren't immune to Leech Seed, whereas Grass are both immune to Leech Seed AND resistant to Giga Drain.


*Tyranitar
Yeah, when I think about it Adamant sounds a bit more intuitive since it needs the ATK since it's not only a Physical Sweeper, but its SPD can't really catch up to its ATK. Oh, and which one would you guys think fit better: Brick Break or Focus Punch?
Without Adamant, Ttar doesn't have a chance of 2KOing Milotic or Vaporeon with Rock Slide (Sandstream cuts their Lefties recovery).
Focus Punch if you can predict.

*Dragonite
I needed a pHazer and a Mixed Sweeper so there. Any suggestions on either? I would prefer if Snorlax would be taken out since he's my filler but whatever makes the team look better.
Well, LG alone, Weezing can Haze and attack with Sludge Bomb + Fire Blast, but it's not a sweeper. You will either have to go with one or the other, and Dragonite makes a fine mixed sweeper.

*Snorlax
I already have Earthquake covered by a reliable source so why get stuck on pokes like Gengar? Like I said earlier, he's a filler so replace this first if possible.
Snorlax is important on this team as its special wall. I see Dragonite as more of a filler.
Earthquake is needed to hit Metagross and Tyranitar. If they set up when you switch, none of your team can handle what they have (unless you get a bulky water).

It's hard to set EVs when in-game Pokémon have imperfect IVs. For Snorlax, aim for a total SP. Def of 300, either 180-200 for Def, ~300 for Attack, and put the rest in HP.

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[Crimson Majestic]

I suppose I could use T-Wave for later because Sleep Powder would be more effective for the time being, considering that Jolteon has the SPD to cover itself without T-Wave. I suppose I could go with Timid just to cover IV issues, like you said before. Besides, T-Bolt should be effective alone.

If this team were to be used on Netbattle then it would look blatantly different than it is now.

Okay, so Poison attacks more effective in that since, but I still don't really plan on battling Poisons or Grass. I also like to have Grass attacks covered in case I need to use one. Since the supposed role of "Drainer" is out maybe replace Giga Drain for Razor Leaf, Magical Leaf, or Petal Dance?

I'll consider Earthquake, but I still see a Ghost pokemon ruining Snorlax.

And finally, which of the two would be better for a pHazer and for this team:

*Dragonite @ Leftovers
-Nature: Rash
-Ability: Inner Focus
-EVs: 32 HP, 80 ATK, 232 SPCL ATK, 164 SPD
-Moveset:
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Wing Attack
Haze

*Weezing @ Quick Claw
-Nature: Brave
-Ability: Levitate
-EVs: 4 HP, 252 ATK, 252 SPCL ATK
-Moveset:
Fire Blast
Sludge Bomb
Explosion
Haze

 

[aragornbird]

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Give Venusaur Razor Leaf. The high chance of Critical Hit is always nice.

Bad EVs on Weezing. Like I said, Weezing is not a sweeper. It would serve as your physical wall with haze for support.

Weezing @Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/ 28 Atk/ 172 Def/ 56 SAtk
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb
-Pain Split
-Haze

Pain Split can be bred from Misdreavus.

Go with it. It pairs nicely with Snorlax. Resists its Fighting weakness while Lax resists Weezing's Psychic weakness.

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[Crimson Majestic]

Give Venusaur Razor Leaf. The high chance of Critical Hit is always nice.

Yes it is, indeed. Besides, I would rather not get confused or having to rely on switching after or before Petal Dance ends. I think I'll go with Razor Leaf then.

Bad EVs on Weezing. Like I said, Weezing is not a sweeper. It would serve as your physical wall with haze for support.

Yeah, I was in a rush when I set him up as a sweeper.

Weezing @Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/ 28 Atk/ 172 Def/ 56 SAtk
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb
-Pain Split
-Haze

Pain Split can be bred from Misdreavus.

Hmm, I never thought of using Pain Split. I'll try this out.

Go with it. It pairs nicely with Snorlax. Resists its Fighting weakness while Lax resists Weezing's Psychic weakness.

That I will... it'll help my cause of this being a LeafGreen team, and your saying on Fighting resistance too.