Legendaries = Big Thumbs Down. Your Views Please!

Legendary was never meant to be related to strength. That's what uber is for. Legendaries were suppose to be just really rare Pokemon. I mean out of the first five legendaries, which made the original definition of 'legendary Pokemon'. Most of them are part of a trio.

But which Pokemon are legendary and which ones aren't has never been that official or definitive. Bulbapedia, whom try to document which ones are and aren't, have had a lot of trouble with the subject. For example:

Rotom was listed as a 'legendary Pokemon' in an official handbook. In fact nothing official has ever disproved that it indeed is. Some people say it is, but it generally isn't considered legendary, because most people disagree. When not considered a legendary, it is:

- The last non-legendary in National Pokedex order.
- The only non-legendary to have legendary battle music playing during its battle.
- The only non-legendary to have an event item associated with it.
- The only non-legendary to change stats when it changes forms.
- The only non-legendary to be banned in official Pokemon tournaments (it's other forms, not its basic form).
etc.

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Unown is clearly legendary in the anime (appearing in legendary Pokemon books and being explicitly stated to be by Prof. Oak), but not considered one by most people. Phione was confirmed by Nintendo (when they were asked) that it was non-legendary. A while later they said it was.

Dragonite was placed in-between the legendary bird trio and Mewtwo and Mew, in National Pokedex order. Arcanine is stated as a 'legendary Pokemon'. Lucario is hinted at being legendary in various canons. Ninetails is a legendary Pokemon in the PMD1 canon.

And various other Pokemon have been related to legends too.
 
All of you are making good points, there is no right or wrong obviously. Keep posting! (:
 
Unidentified Flying Aces said:
I agree. Most of the old ones are coolish though, Manaphy's cute, Darkrai's pure evil, and Shaymin rocks.

If anything, pokes like Jirachi, Lati@s, and Deoxys r rubbish.Mewtwo too.
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Jirachi's awesome! |:< I agree with Mewtwo (at least it's nostalgic xD) and the Lati@s' and Deoxys are okay. :\

Also, what do you mean there are better Pokemon than legendaries? Arceus, for example, has the highest base stats in recent Pokemon games. :\

Though I agree that there are too many Pokemon. :\
 
Iyo said:
I agree, but the legendaries are key plot lines... At least half of the In-Game storyline revolves around them.
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They didn't use to be. The games use to be able to have plots not revolved around the legendaries.
 
Well i should say they should cut down the useless legendaries, For example. On Pokemon D/P/PT Geretina,Dialga,Palkia and those other Sinnoh legendaries are good for those events. And putting Groudon,Kyoger,Rayquaza and those other Kanto,Hoenn,Jhoto legendaries on Pokemon D/P/PT seems useless to me. And there are alot amount of different pokemons and people seems to use legendaries more then normal pokemons.
 
@Rocket Girl <3

I completely agree - there's more to Pokemon than just Legendaries; plus, there are standard Pokemon that are just as good. (well except mewtwo and palkia - they have the highest overall base stats accocrding to my official guide)
 
coolcatkim22 said:
They didn't use to be. The games use to be able to have plots not revolved around the legendaries.
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The older games had less plots than nowadays. Mainly because back then games didn't have very big plots. And the amount it did have, still exist now days, just there are a lot more because there are the legendary plots as well.
 
I don't hate legendaries. There are some that I really like. I just feel very annoying when some people(especially kids) act like you suck if you don't use legendaries.
 
If you want controversy, tell people that Typhlosion's worthless, Johto is the worst region EVAR, and Eevee is the most overglorified piece of poop Pokemon in existence. Back it up with sufficient information and nobody will dare defy you. Muwa. Haha. Haha.

I agree wholeheartedly. The idea of legendary has been stretched to the furthest reaches of the earth and back; to the point where people are questioning certain Pokemon's legendary status just because it's so difficult to keep up with their sheer numbers nowadays.

Plus, each region has its preverbial overrated-as-all-hell legendary. Kanto has Mewtwo; Mew's loved by the more weeaboo "OMG SO KAWAII" types. Johto has the legendary dogs/cats/beasts, who are "OMG SO BAMF" yet people don't know how to properly use them. (If you use a Suicune with Hydro Pump, get out of my sight.) Lugia also qualifies, and is even more laughably misused. (If you run one without Whirlwind, Roost or Reflect, or one with Hydro Pump, once again, get out of my sight.) Hoenn has Rayquaza; who is once again horribly misused (HYPER BEAM THAT'S SO CASH MY HOMIE G-DAWG), and Sinnoh had Darkrai at first, and it eventually became Giratina.

I can also proudly boast I beat a Uber team of 5 legendaries almost exclusively with a Yanmega. It beat three legendaries by itself (at full HP) until Ho-Oh came along. It managed to take out half of Ho-Oh's health before dying. The rest of my team had no problem cleaning up the rest of the guy's team, either.

Some legendaries are good; Heatran's one I personally find fantastic, and these days is seeing more diverse forms of use. It's mostly the Uber or NU legendaries I find that are the annoying ones, since people think they're so awesome for using them. Anyone with half a brain knows that an Ice Shard from pretty much anything with better than poop Attack will OHKO your precious Rayquaza. Except, of course, if that person's smart enough to use Extremespeed.

Yes, legendaries are overrated. I don't think it's as controversial as it is...just fact. It's fan dumb, you deal with it...
 
Myles said:
The older games had less plots than nowadays. Mainly because back then games didn't have very big plots. And the amount it did have, still exist now days, just there are a lot more because there are the legendary plots as well.
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Since when has Pokemon need a big plot? It always gave a lot of things to entertain people and it didn't need a huge plot to make it more interesting.
 
well. in my country pokemon show isnt on air for 2 years in 2007. so i came a trip to america and bought that pearl game. as i didnt watch the anime i didnt know the pokes of IV genearation. i was terryfied with the number of legendaries there are inside the game. at start i was thinking like "great so many legends to catch". but now when i am facing another legendary i think like 3hmm whats that? another pokemon which nobody wants"
 
3rd gen is where we began seeing the legendaries who contributed nothing to the plot (the Regis, Lti@a, as well as Rayquaza in R/S, only involved in Emerald plot), 4th gen is where it got out of control. Manaphy and Phione are pointless, not to mention retarded-looking. Giratina is much like Rayquaza in that it was randomly stuck in D/P and only served a purpose in Platinum's storyline. Heatran really didn't serve a purpose either. Cresellia and Darkrai are only involved in an after-game sub-plot.

I don't really hate legendaries (except for certain ones) but there are so many the term "legendary" means little nowadays.
 
I think legendaries are almost completely useless as far as standard competitive battling goes...with the exceptions of Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin Land Form, Phione, the three dogs, the three birds, and the three Regi's. I don't have much love for the others like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina because they are basically useless...I think people who use them are mainly newbish to battling and haven't had their eyes opened to the abundance of niche pokes in the UU/NU tiers.
 
PorcelainDoll said:
I think legendaries are almost completely useless as far as standard competitive battling goes...with the exceptions of Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin Land Form, Phione, the three dogs, the three birds, and the three Regi's. I don't have much love for the others like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina because they are basically useless...I think people who use them are mainly newbish to battling and haven't had their eyes opened to the abundance of niche pokes in the UU/NU tiers.
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I agree to some parts; but you've got the 'quality' mixed up. Palkia and Mewtwo have the best base stats in the game!
 
PokemonJake^^ said:
I agree to some parts; but you've got the 'quality' mixed up. Palkia and Mewtwo have the best base stats in the game!
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Thats true. They may have the best stats in the game, but in the OU/UU metagame where there is more strategy involved, they are useless. A lot of "new to pokemon" people use ubers and participate in uber competitive battling. I know very few who competitively battle and use them.
 
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