Legendary Pokémon Pattern

[MiTjA]

I like to analyze and research stuff, especially if it has to do with Pokémon. Since the 1st generation I was watching what kind of legendaries are added and how they fit into the "whole picture".


I'm trying to integrate the legendaries* into a pattern, not based on the anime's view (as there they're treaten differently, more of them exist and have some stories about them which never happened in the games.), but on a view with importance on the ingame features (base statuses, attacks, levels the attacks are learned, types....), and their design similarities.


To make it more clear on what kind of relations between legendaries thats based:
You all know that that Raikou, Entei and Suicune (for example) are a TRIO

The proof that you can really distinguish those kind of relations, before anything was said about them officially, OR find ones that are held as secret by the game series makers, is the reaction people had after checking Giratina at the time Dialga and Palkia were a duo, while there wasn't anything told about Giratina:
There were 2 kinds of opinions on forums.
The few people that checked Giratina's ingame features and looked at it's design closely, said: Giratina is with no doubt the third counterpart to Palkia and Dialga; Dia Pal and Gira are obviously a TRIO; Giratina will be on the box of the 3rd installment; etc....

Everyone else/the majority, answered: They're not related!

With Platinum announced it became clear that the former group was right about Gira.


*By legendaries in this thread, I'm talking about the main legendary Pokémon, which exclude the 600TBS events/duos/uniques:
-Mew*
it's the only Pokemon with the DNA of every other one. It's special on it's own level.
-Mewtwo
manmade clone of Mew
-Celebi & Shaymin
they're a duo for themselves which is fine
-Latias & Latios
see Celebi & Shaymin
-Jirachi
doesn't fit anywhere, although it has similarities to celebi but not alot more than with mew, and doesnt stand a chance against shaymin on that palce
-Deoxys
a mutated virus from space is not legendary Dx
-Cresselia & Darkrai
see Celebi & Shaymin
-Manaphy
see Jirachi
-Phione
what the... reminds me of something... Mew and Mewtwo...
There they made a stronger unnatural version of Mew
If they tried to make the opposite with Manaphy, what would they do?
A weaker version "natural" of Manaphy
But what would it be that would make it more natural? The only natural thing other legendaries are missing! Reproduction. And there you have Phione.
-Heatran
what is this piece of molten crap??? lol sounds like deoxys counterpart
I predict that it'll get 2 new forms in some future games which would depend on gender. If this becomes true, then it really is Deoxys counterpart.

*Mew vs Arceus
That's something interesting GF thought up here.
I believe they made those 2 to represent the REAL world's debate about the origin of life
Theory of Evolution vs Religious creationism
-scientists believe Mew to be the ancestor of Pokemon
-myths talk about Arceus creating the universe



I'm going to list some interesting things about legendaries from every generation, but not the features, that mebmers of a trio have in common which show the fact of them being a trio (just check their serebiidex pages to see those (similar moveset levels, base stats etc).
Generation I:
The Bird trio was created (which started the whole thing).
Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres
-Ice, Electric and Fire

-In R/B/Y, Moltres was the strongest one statwise. (When special attack and special defense were only 1 stat)
-They're all found in a place, that seems to fit their abilities aka a place they like to be at and which they have probably chosen themself to reside at.


Generation II:
The Cat* trio.
Raikou, Entei and Suicune
-Electric, Fire, Water
As you can see, they repeated Electric and Fire but left out Ice and added Water. Suicune could have easily be made an Ice Pokémon, so what's the point behind this?
I think the creators realised, that after some more generations it would get boring to see the same 3 types for a legendary trio. But if they make a trio of 3 totally different types every generation, they get about 3 good combinations (if they eclude those which are usable for secondary typing, like flying, dragon etc.). So maybe they are going to repeat 1 or 2 and add 1 or 2 every generation.

-In crystal, Suicune plays a more special role, while Raikou and Entei remain the same.
-Statwise they are an absolutelly balanced trio, with Raikou having best stat speed and sp.atk, Entei HP and atk, and Suicune def and sp.def.
-They're found frozen/asleep in a cave under a building.
-After you awaken them, they run out and roam around Johto.

*Cat trio, because tiger, lion and cheetah don't look like dogs to me.


Lugia & Ho-oh
-They were the new Mewtwos, because beside those 3 no Pokemon had 680 total base stats, which is 100 more than what trio legendaries have.
-People have constructed 2 high towers to show gratitude to the two, the Brass and Tin tower. Under Ho-oh's tower is the Cat trio, which could mean they have a connection with him. As Ho-oh and Lugia are counterparts, it would be only logical to to conclude that Lugia is related to the Bird trio.

So at the end of gen II we have two big flying monsters, which seem to be some kind of guradians of a cat and bird trio.

Generation III
The Golem trio
Regirock, Regice and Registeel
-Rock, Ice and Steel
See? Electric and Fire one more time and it wouldn't be that special anymore, so that's why (like I described before) they now used Ice one more time and choosed two new types, if possible two which fit the concept of golems. They have done a good job at that if you ask me =)
-They're all very defensive oriented.
-Regirock is the physical (statwise) golem, Regice the special one and Registeel having stats of the other two balanced out.
-All 3 are sealed in hidden caves and one needs to solve puzzles after reading instructions in braille to acces them.
-The strange thing about them personally was that they don't have real eyes like the other 2 trios.

The weather trio
Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza
-Well acutally, Rayquaza is superior to Kyo and Gro, making them a duo and the new big monster (as they have total base stats of 670,670 and 680)
-Rayquaza acts quite like Ho-oh and Lugia, with a guardian like role (as seen in Emerald), and acting intelligent instead of causing trouble like Kyogre and Groudon do if someone wakes them up.
-Kyo and Gro change the weather around them, creating a scary storm or heating up the atmosphere drastically around them. Rayquaza on the other side has the abilty which makes weather effects around it useless.

The 3rd generation added a regular 580 trio (but without any guardian like 680 legendary), 2 troublemaking 670 monsters and a third flying 680 monster

Generation IV
The Lake trio
Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf
-All psychic type, representing Knowledge, Emotion, Will.
I was totally confused when I saw those. They had 580 TBS, like a regular trio, but looked almost similar compared to other trios. The reason I was confused is, because I was 100% sure that the types would be continued like that:
+one member of the water type,
+one that's either rock or steel
+one that would be of any type not used in existing trios
D=?
After taking a deeper look at them I realised something really cool (to me atleast):
-Azelf is representing Will, which reminds me of how the Bird trio are the only trio to not be sealed in somewhere.
-Uxie... Knowledge. That's what's needed to read braille/open the Regi chambers.
It's best stats are it's sp. and physical Defense. It's eyes are closed.
-Now the best: Mesprit. The Emotion Pokémon. It has the most balanced stats (remember the Cat trio?) and runs out of the cave as you enter it, goes roaming through the Routes of Sinnoh, while the other 2 don't.
They're the past 3 trios in 3 Pokémon. o:


Regigigas
-It's obviously a 4th bigger and stronger member of the Golem trio
So now the 3 trios all have a "master" (just like the birds got theirs one generation later).


The Dimension trio
Palkia, Dialga and Giratina
-They're Dimension altering 680 monsters living in some other dimension...
-They're all part dragon....blah bla...wait O_O
What where their types again?
Palkia Water/dragon
Dialga Steel/dragon
Giratina Ghost/dragon
Water, Steel and Ghost. That are the missing trio typings! But why on 680 Legneds? Well I think, that Gamefreak realised they got into a habbit of releasing THREE main games every generation, and adding a TRIO every gen. Why not combine that and make a 680 trio instead? xD
We will see if they are going to make a 680 trio or return to 580 in generation 5 : )
Sure is, one will be of the Rock type and the other two of some unused types (in trios obviously).

Arceus
It got the same style face that the Dimension Legends have. And it's told to have created Dialga, Palkia and the Lake trio. If it really created anything is unknown, but it has something to do with the 2 trios of the 4th generation.


Regigigas has 670 TBS while Lugia and Ho-oh have 680.
The fact it's in a hibernating state in that shrine, reminded me of Kyogre and Groudon. One could conclude it would cause trouble, as reason for what it could have been sealed.

So here's the 4th gen legendary pattern:

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1.Do you find this as awesome as I do? Dx
2.Does this make any logic to anyone else than me?
3.Anyone else can't wait to see what legendaries are coming next? =D

 

[Mitchman]

Yes acually it does a bit. But how does the creator come second to last?

 

[Percy Thrillington]

Just as Lugia and Ho-Oh oversee the Legendary Birds and Legendary Beasts respectively, Regigas keeps the Regis in check. He is in no way related to Groudon, Kyogre, Lugia nor Ho-Oh.

Other than that, this analysis was amazing. Fascinating stuff, MiTjA.

Edit: Oh, and I just realised that Jirachi and Deoxys are linked because they reside in space together.

 

[MiTjA]

Yes acually it does a bit. But how does the creator come second to last?

First I had Arceus at top, lake trio, then Dimensions, Guradians, Troublemakers, trios. But that way the lake trio was far from connected to the birds cats and regis.

So I put the lake trio under the regular trios, dimensions under tthem and arceus at bottom. This way the line from uxie to arceus was going over giratina or strangely around it.
So in the end I connected the dimension trio from the other side to arceus.

I could also make it the other way around-> Arceus on top and the Guardians on bottom.

Just as Lugia and Ho-Oh oversee the Legendary Birds and Legendary Beasts respectively, Regigas keeps the Regis in check. He is in no way related to Groudon, Kyogre, Lugia nor Ho-Oh.

Other than that, this analysis was amazing. Fascinating stuff, MiTjA.

Edit: Oh, and I just realised that Jirachi and Deoxys are linked because they reside in space together.

Regigigas is related to Ho-oh and Lugia in the way that they're all masters of a trio.... this was enough of a reason for me to draw a line from one to other =)

Kyogre, Groudon and Regigigas:
-were all sealed away in a special place
-all 3 are the only legendaries to have 670 total base stats
-all have some patterns over their bodies
though Groudon and Kyogre still have more in common, like moveset and phys/spec. stats
and gigas is lacking a weather ability =<

 

[Percy Thrillington]

Oh, and another thing; Arceus is the guardian of the pixies, but it is also the Creator. It is linked to Mew as it created Mew, and Mew is the Original One and the Ancestor of all Pokémon because it created every other Pokémon.

 

[MiTjA]

Oh, and another thing; Arceus is the guardian of the pixies, but it is also the Creator. It is linked to Mew as it created Mew, and Mew is the Original One and the Ancestor of all Pokémon because it created every other Pokémon.

It was never said, that Mew is the ancestor of every Pokemon, it just has the DNA of all in it's body. That's a unique feature, just like Smeargle has the uniquie feature of being able to copy every move. =)

Scientists believe that Mew is the Ancestor of all Pokemon
Mythological stories tell about Arceus creating the universe etc...

That's the Pokémon world's version of Evolution theory (which is even in textbooks shown as fact) vs. Creationism by a supreme being (which many people believe to be true though).

Awesome

 

[Percy Thrillington]

Regigigas is related to Ho-oh and Lugia in the way that they're all masters of a trio.... this was enough of a reason for me to draw a line from one to other =)

Rayquaza is a master or a trio as is Arceus, but they weren't linked with the three legendaries you mentioned.

It was never said, that Mew is the ancestor of every Pokemon, it just has the DNA of all in it's body. That's a unique feature, just like Smeargle has the uniquie feature of being able to copy every move. =)

Scientists believe that Mew is the Ancestor of all Pokemon
Mythological stories tell about Arceus creating the universe etc...

That's the Pokémon world's version of Evolution theory (which is even in textbooks shown as fact) vs. Creationism by a supreme being (which many people believe to be true though).

Awesome

Science is the way forward. If Mew has the DNA of every Pokémon in the world (unlike Arceus), you don't really need anymore proof to tell that it is the ancestor.

 

[MiTjA]

Rayquaza is a master or a trio as is Arceus, but they weren't linked with the three legendaries you mentioned.

Sorry, I can't figure out what you are trying to say here.

Science is the way forward. If Mew has the DNA of every Pokémon in the world (unlike Arceus), you don't really need anymore proof to tell that it is the ancestor.

I'm all for science, but Mew having DNA of all Pokemon does only mean it has DNA of all Pokemon. It is highly probably that Mew is the ancestor of Pokemon, but you can't say for 100% sure. Arceus could have created Mew including it's special feature. =)


And about Deoxys and Jirachi:
I never heard before that Jirachi would come from outer space. Where did you hear that?
And Jirachi lacks the strange origin (I mean a mutated alien virus?) and....forms? =o

 

[Percy Thrillington]

Sorry, I can't figure out what you are trying to say here.

My bad, I wasn't clear enough.

You linked Ho-Oh, Lugia and Regigas together because they were the masters of a trio, but Arceus and Rayquaza are also masters of trios, so why aren't they linked with the three who have been?

I'm all for science, but Mew having DNA of all Pokemon does only mean it has DNA of all Pokemon. It is highly probably that Mew is the ancestor of Pokemon, but you can't say for 100% sure. Arceus could have created Mew including it's special feature. =)

Fair enough. It's implied and most people take it as fact.

And about Deoxys and Jirachi:
I never heard before that Jirachi would come from outer space. Where did you hear that?
And Jirachi lacks the strange origin (I mean a mutated alien virus?) and....forms? =o

Doesn't it say something about Jirachi coming down to earth from outer space once every one thousand years to grant wishes? Either that or it's another dimension, in which case I've made myself look like an idiot.

 

[Arumus]

Thing is, is Mew just compound to every Pokémon on Earth? As we all know there is many more Pokémon in the Universe, you know Clefairy and Deoxys.

 

[El Gofre]

I would like an explanation of how celebi and shaymin were grouped together, since as far as I'm aware the only thing they have in common is primary type.

 

[MiTjA]

My bad, I wasn't clear enough.

You linked Ho-Oh, Lugia and Regigas together because they were the masters of a trio, but Arceus and Rayquaza are also masters of trios, so why aren't they linked with the three who have been?

Rayquaza is related to Kyo and Gro, and is part of the guardian trio (with Lugia, Ho-oh).

See, there are 6 legendaries which have 680 total base stats (excluding Mewtwo)
3 of them have dragon as secondary type (Dimension trio: Dialga, Palkia, Giratina)
3 of them have flying as secondary type (Guardian trio: Lugia, Ho-oh, Rayquaza)

Arceus is in it's own league xD

Doesn't it say something about Jirachi coming down to earth from outer space once every one thousand years to grant wishes? Either that or it's another dimension, in which case I've made myself look like an idiot.

In the sixth movie there's a comet which awakens jirachi when near earth (every thousand years), but nothing about that in the games o:

I would like an explanation of how celebi and shaymin were grouped together, since as far as I'm aware the only thing they have in common is primary type.

They don't even share the primary type! xD
Celebi is Psychic/Grass
Shaymin Grass

But!
They're cute event Pokémon (100 in all stats) which share the following:
-they need 1,059,860 Exp. to get to level 100 while every other legendary (except Mew) needs 1,250,000 Exp.
-natural cure
-they both learn moves at levels: 10,19,28,37,46,55,64,73,82,91
shaymin also learns a move at lv 100, while celebi has 3 more moves from start
-held item: lum berry both at 50%
hmmm.....

 

[Mōnštȝr¿]

I see some logic in it not much though.... Xp

 

[MiTjA]

I see some logic in it not much though.... Xp

Ok Dx

I really wonder how they are going to expand this.

 

[Cherrim]

This is honestly one of the most interesting posts I've read in a LONG time. I've always complained about the number of legendaries and I never really saw a point in a lot of them, but you just made them a lot more interesting to me. I don't know if the creators themselves even put this much thought into them, but this is just so intriguing.

My favourite part is how you linked the pixies to the other trios. I've just been having a discussion with Rekhyt about legendaries (and he linked me to this thread) and I was complaining about how the fact that the pixies weren't consistent (in the sense that one runs and the other two stay put) but this is an explanation that I would accept.

I still don't like how they added so many legendaries in generation IV, but at least a lot of them make sense. Thanks so much for taking the time to type all this up (and think it up, I suppose, haha) to share here. :O

I see some logic in it not much though.... Xp

Did you have to quote the WHOLE post just to write a line? @_@;

 

[Mōnštȝr¿]

lol yeah sorry lighting i don't know what i was thinking.... Xp

I'll edit it Xp

 

[Haza]

The very end with the relation of the Sprites got a bit scramble to me but the rest is exactly right,

 

[Z o M B ii 3]

Yes acually it does a bit. But how does the creator come second to last?

Because its a goat.
If it is the "creator" what would be the point in 5th gen legends?
The legends are getting more evolved into their own
storyline, so I have a hunch Arceus won't
be the "Creator" for much longer.​

 

[Haza]

Its not second to last its in the middle.

 

[sirboulevard]

Um couple of additions to this:
Mew directly related to Arceus as it's decendant (the ancestor of pokemon) ==> links to Mewtwo
Celebi ===> from Dialga
Drakrai ===> Giratina
Lati@s relate to the Legendary Dogs and the Creation Trio
Manaphy comes from Kyogre
Heatran is from Groudon and leads to the Regi trio and regigigas (as part of the creation of landmasses)
And that links all of them together in some fashion

You've done this right. Kudos for all the hard work in figuring this out.