Legendary Pokemon

A Legend is somthing that is unproven, (im not trying to put peps down by the way) you see at the end for the first movie Mewtwo clears everbody memory about the event and i think he does something like that to team rocket at the end of the his second movie.
The thing is the Pokemon (Birds, dogs, Dragons and such) aint the Legends as such its thier storys of birth and such.
After all since pretty much all of them has either been seen, caught or battled over the course of the anime and in the games all can be caught.
 
Well, you do have to clarify in what form of media you want classification in. There are different qualities to classify Pokémon as legendary in both the games and the anime. I'll take a look at both.

Games: The term "legendary" is applied to those Pokémon who are at the height of the tiers. Mewtwo, Lugia, and Ho-Oh are at the top of the top. (I am not going to place Aruseus in this discussion at all, because he is god.) The other legendaries, and Slaking, are below them in terms of stats. Now, why is Slaking not counted as a legendary? Because you can get more than one. Outside of cloning, you can only get one of each legendary. (Also, outside of getting multiple copies of games, ie the beasts in Coliseum and in FR/LG.) Stats and availability are the qualities for legends in the games.

Anime: To be a legendary in the anime world, the Pokémon must have a mystical quality to it. Let's look at the example of Suicune. Its powers include controling the North Wind, and purifying water. Can any other Water type do that? No. Same with the rest of the trios - the birds, the beasts, the Regis.

So, what of Mewtwo? Mewtwo could be considered a legendary, as the people of the world that see "the dark figure that travels the skies at night" would attach stories to explain it. Thus, it could be considered a legendary at that point. Though, one must think that if Mewtwo did not destroy the palace on New Island, then the recording from its creation must still exist. It is only a matter of time before curious humans uncover that. Then, people will know the truth.

CHaRiSMa, Giovanni and Team Rocket do not know of Mewtwo anymore. Their memories were erased, due to the fact that they mistreated Mewtwo, and only want to use it for power. Ash and company are able to hold onto the memories of Mewtwo, as they befriended it, and would take its story to heart.

Black_Wind, the legend of the Beast of the Sea and the three Titans has been proven. Multiple eyewitness and secondary witnesses have seen that legend come to pass. So not all legends are unproven.

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Excuse the long post. Legendary Pokémon fascinate me.
 
Game-wise, or anime-wise? Like I said before, it all depends on what media you are talking about, as the answers are different for each one.

Game(in spoilers for those who do not wish to know):
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Anime: No. Not at all. Doing so could quite possibly throw the world into a frenzy. Going from what I can gather from previous examples and from what I could determine of Pokémon theology, the Pokémon - as in the actual creatures themselves - would become very angry if a human took their god away from them. Humans have always been "attacking" the Pokégods, ie. Ho-Oh and the Tin Tower. "Attacking" the actual god would just cause a grand war.

Hope that answers the question in some way.
 
Im sorry i didnt mean the beast of the sea thing was not proven, it was cause it was caught on tv wasnt it.
 
whoa whoa WHOA!!!
sso much info.. uh my brain hurts...
legends can be proven...
i guess legends are like religons and beliefs..
they might be real!
but legends i guess are things people think are real, or know
so theyhave been seen
like legends of the latis... it HAS been seen according to the anime..
and proven, coz seeing is believing.. sorta
i hope that did SOMETHING!
 
Black_Wind, the Beast of the Sea legend was proven because it was caught on television. Also, you had the eyewitnesses on Shamouti Island. Prof. Oak was there as well, and I don't think that he would keep that spectacular of an event to himself! See my last paragraph on why it would be a good-ish idea of Prof. Oak to share the event.

Dragon Ryder: Sometimes legends can be proven. Sometimes not. Like the legends of the creation of the world held by the Native Americans. They believe a coyote placed the stars in the sky. Now, today, we know that that is not true. But they still might believe it(I'm not exactly sure of their religious beliefs ever since the white man took over).

But! In the Pokémon world, legends can be proven. It is my belief that years ago, the legendary Pokémon were believed in. As time went on, and people started to disbelieve in them, then fact was turned into legend. That's what I believe. Just ask if you need any more clarification.
 
my dictionary says:

legend, noun. a story of a saint's life: a collection of such stories: a traditional story: a body of tradition: an untrue of unhistorical story: a person having a special place in public esteem because of striking qualities or deeds, real or fictitious: the body of fact and fiction gathered round such a person: a motto, incription, or explanatory words

legendary. pertaining to, of the nature of, consisting of, or described in, legend: romantic: fabulous


and what i have to say is this, they're all legendary; they are of legend, as legend can be real or fictual
so mewtwo is a man-made legend yes, but one nonetheless*

*nonetheless is one word
 
hmm... i guess so. A tradition, like on the Lugia movie, it was a tradition to get a trainer to get the three orbs!
 
Dragon Ryder said:
hmm... i guess so. A tradition, like on the Lugia movie, it was a tradition to get a trainer to get the three orbs!
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Yeah! It was a tradition for a trainer to head out to the three islands to get the orbs. It just so happened that Ash's time to carry on the tradition, Lugia was awakened.
 
ok, tradition: it is a custom of a culture, people, etc.
it was phrophecy or random events that a trainer would go get the orbs and so on. legend and tradition are different words with different meanings.

ash counts as a legend too, though not a pokemon

legendary pokemon are like sajuuk, and ash the hiigarans who awakened him (if you've ever played homeworld2) there's a parody for ya ;)
 
It was like...the tradition of getting the orbs was part of the legend. Part of the Beast of the Sea Creed (it could possibly be called a creed, as the Titans could be seen as Pokégods...) says "Bring together all three; Their treasures combined tame the Beast of the Sea." So, perhaps the Shamouti Islanders held the tradition of getting the three orbs to hold up that part of the legend.

Or maybe the tradition of getting the orbs was for the religious aspect of it. And the legend was just of Lugia ending a war between Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres...? And since Lugia is powerful and able to do that to Pokémon more powerful than normal, then the people counted it as a Pokégod...

Sorry, but when I get new ideas of the theology of the Pokémon world, I begin to ramble. You gave me some new ideas, Hotaru! I'll credit them to you if I ever publish them!

Now, onto Ash: He could be counted as a legend in his own right. Perhaps in the future, then the people of the Pokémon world will begin to tell stories of a boy who saw so many of the legendary Pokémon... People can be legends as well!
 
oo!! you gave me an idea about the lugia thing!
maybe no trainer attempted the legend before, and they were too scared...
so maybe ash was the only one to attept it, because the orbs would already be in the square where slowking is!
 
hehe that's nice of you Hanako Tabris :)

legends ehh... people fear that which they do not know. but i should imagine there have been great trainers other than ash, before his lifetime, that have done things like this.

personaly i'd like to why and know how to tin and brass towers came to being: the knowledge behind the reason for building such structures?...
basicly, someone must know about ho-oh and lugia to build monuments to them, and such a person must know of these pokemon
 
hmm, but what burned them down? i thought ive read it somewhere but i cant seem to remember...
and another "legend" to talk about, the marowak in lavender city...
would she be a legend?
 
The two towers(lol...Tolkien...)were built to honor both Ho-Oh and Lugia. Lugia lived in the Tin Tower; Ho-Oh lived in the Brass Tower. 300 years ago from the present day - that's the time of Ash - the Brass Tower was burned down by humans wanting Ho-Oh's powers. Lugia flew off. Ho-Oh flew off, and created the Beast Trinity.

This was mentioned in the Master Quest episode, "For Ho-Oh the Bells Toll!"
 
hmm... i've not actualy seen that marowak, but if it's the one that died defending itself or something, then it's merely doing what all animals do: defending themselves if attacked or provoked

and of the towers, i know all the stuff that you've said xD but how did people know of these pokemon? people don't build towers like those out of rumours...
so my theory is that there was a trainer somewhat like ash that fulfilled a prophecy/legend of some kind...

but i don't think this has ever been covered by anyone, fanfiction it is i spose...
 
I guess back in olden times, the Pokémon weren't so rare to find. They actually wanted to be with humans. Until humans attacked them for no reason. That was when Lugia flew off and was never seen again(except for Team Rocket in the Whirl Islands, but that is an entire different post of itself...) Ho-Oh also flew off then.

So, it is my guess that the two birds did used to enjoy the company of humans, until the towers were burned down. So, over the course of 300 years, humans forgot that the legendaries didn't exist...? Or they just didn't want to believe...?

Man, this is exactly what the prologue of my fanfiction needs to cover!
 
hmm, they dont exactly need to be forgotten to be legends, yaknow...
but only one tower is burnt, remember! and ho-oh or oh-ho or whatever! returned, like in the game...!

ALSO! was ho thing the one flying over ash in the 1st episode??
 
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