4th Gen Legends - Real or not?

[MegaMushroom07]

I don't really have much of a theory for a timeline, but here is what I think of each...

Arceus - Creator of the universe

Shaymin - Flower protector

Darkrai - Tyrannical Pokemon, no 'noble' role. Maybe connected to Giratina.

Giratina - 'Hades' of Pokemon. Possibly connected to Darkrai.

Dialga - Master of time

Palkia - Master of space

Groudon - Creator of land

Kyogre - Creator of water

Raquaza - Protecter of Earth, defends from intruders

Jirachi - Master of dreams/ambition

Deoxys - Alien virus, perhaps enemy of Raquaza.

Celebi - Protector of forest and wildlife

Ho-oh - Protector of the sky

Lugia - Protector of the sea

Entei - Volcano Controller

Suicune - Water Controller

Raikou - Lightning Controlle

Mew - Original Pokemon/No real role

Mewtwo - Team Rocket gone too far.

 

[Nacon]

I don't really have much of a theory for a timeline, but here is what I think of each...

Arceus - Creator of the universe

Shaymin - Flower protector

Darkrai - Tyrannical Pokemon, no 'noble' role. Maybe connected to Giratina.

Giratina - 'Hades' of Pokemon. Possibly connected to Darkrai.

Dialga - Master of time

Palkia - Master of space

Groudon - Creator of land

Kyogre - Creator of water

Raquaza - Protecter of Earth, defends from intruders

Jirachi - Master of dreams/ambition

Deoxys - Alien virus, perhaps enemy of Raquaza.

Celebi - Protector of forest and wildlife

Ho-oh - Protector of the sky

Lugia - Protector of the sea

Entei - Volcano Controller

Suicune - Water Controller

Raikou - Lightning Controlle

Mew - Original Pokemon/No real role

Mewtwo - Team Rocket gone too far.

hmmmm.....

what's your take on Manaphy and Phione in this, anyways?

 

[MegaMushroom07]

I don't really think of them as legendary; more as Pokemon that are rare, or almost extinct. Similar to Mew; I don't see Mew as special, I see it as a near-extinct Pokemon, like Aerodactyl.

 

[Shiny Umbreon]

Excuse me, but isn't Mew the Pokémon who can learn every single move in the world?

 

[MegaMushroom07]

Wrong. I don't believe it can learn Draco Meteor. Besides, it gains that ability from having a variety of genetic strands.

 

[Live in Color]

And how do you find Giratina anyway? Maybe you travel to another universe when you go through the Spring Path.

And I wanted to say that whoever said it is right, too. Manaphy is the prince, Lugia the guardian and Kyogre the creator but which one is right? What's the definition of "prince" in this context anyway?

'Twas moi. :)

I don't see why all of these legendary Pokemon need to be created to guard everything and crap. Why wasn't one just created to make the world balanced if Pokemon start fighting. If there is more than one of each legendary, then why are only specific ones "Guardians" of whatever. We only see one of each in the movies basically, like Lugia and the sea, and Ho-oh and the sky, just like almost any other Pokemon, would they not fight, like two Squirtles fighting over a Berry? So, how would they keep balance if there is more than one of them, but others are supposed to be put there to keep them in balance, and so on?

 

[Shiny Umbreon]

Wrong. I don't believe it can learn Draco Meteor. Besides, it gains that ability from having a variety of genetic strands.

It can learn absolutely anything taught through Move Tutor or TMs/HMs.

@Relyt: Not sure what to say. Maybe, for example, Lugia, Kyogre, and Manaphy feel as if they are the kings of the sea, but haven't found the others to start "fighting" over the sea. And I doubt any of them can take of all the sea. Maybe they have divided jobs or something.

 

[MegaMushroom07]

Excuse me, but isn't Mew the Pokémon who can learn every single move in the world?

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I think that it is Kyogre that made the sea, but Lugia controls it. This explains it's Psychic type.

 

[Forci Stikane]

Not sure if Ho-oh is really as divine. It's the guardian of Raikou, Entei and Suicune, but I think I've heard nothing else, at least in the canon.

Raikou, Entei, & Suicune are Pokemon who were reincarnated due to Ho-oh. Reincarnation is, naturally, a divine power, so Ho-oh = divine.

And, to back up to something that wasn't quite answered before:

I don't know about the Dark Lugia as I haven't completed XD but I believe it was something like an artificial Pokémon.

It was a basic Lugia that had its heart "completely" sealed, giving it absolute powers of darkness...or so was claimed.

 

[EmpoleMew]

Okay, my theory is this:

Spoiler:

When the universe came to be, Arceus was hatched from this aforementioned egg. It created Mew to create all other Pokemon. From Mew and Arceus decended Dialga and Palkia to start time flow and shape the planets of the universe. From Dialga decended Celebi who travels through time to keep things in balance and if it meets a pure-hearted person, give them a chance to fix a tragedy. (Reference-Pokemon Chronicles episode Celebi and Joy!) From Palkia decended Groudon and Regigigas. Groudon shaped the land of the earth while Regigigas broke them apart into continents. (Possible Pokemon explaination for the Continental Drift.) Kyogre was created as an opposite to Groudon so that the ocean could be. From Kyogre decended Lugia and Manaphy. After Kyogre and Groudon's struggle for power, when they fell into their sleep, Lugia took over as the ruler of the sea. Manaphy in turn, became next in line in case Lugia were to fall incapable of its job. (Thus the title Prince of the Sea) After this turn of events, Regigigas created Regirock, Registeel, and Regice as beacons if one of these beings were to awaken and overpower the other. Regigigas in turn, fell into a petrified state and could only be awakened by the beacons assembling around him. The Regi trio was scattered in Hoenn's off locations where a disturbance could be detected through that 1/3 of the area. From the power of the beacons, Rayquaza was born as the balance keeper. The Regi trio would send a telepathic alert to Rayquaza if Kyogre and Groudon would fight again. From the Regi trio decended the Legendary Birds and Dogs. Though not serving the same purpose as the beacons, these trios served their own role. The birds would awaken the ruler of the sea, Lugia, if the balance in nature was disrupted. The dogs would awaken Ho-oh if the world should be tainted with evil on an enormous scale. (Colloseum plot anybody?) Ho-oh decended from Mew and Arceus as ruler of the sky and keeper of peace in the world. Thus, the peace keeper Pokemon themselves, the Togepi family line decended from Ho-oh. From Mew decended Cresslia and from Arceus, Darkrai to control the phases of the moon. Cresslia was given the power to create plesant dreams while Darkrai gives out nightmares. Darkrai sometimes got carried away and put people in endless nightmares to please itself. Only Cresslia's Lunar Wing had the power to expel these bad dreams. Heatran was once a common Pokemon but has recently died out and few still exist. (Explaination for Heatran having a gender. However, it was unable to produce eggs due to its species becoming extinct. Ditto could not breed with it because of its akward organ posistions. O.O) At one point, Dialga and Palkia got out of control and the Psy Bros were created as Mew's children. They also represent the greatest qualities of human and Pokemon existance. (Willpower, Wisdom, and Emotions.) Shaymin was created to bring plants into the world. From Shaymin decended the grass type population. Giratina was created to rule the afterlife. When all Pokemon die, their spirits go to Turnback Cave and live in the alternate dimension. From Giratina and the souls of deceased Pokemon decended the ghost type. Mewtwo was one of the two human-made Pokemon, the other being Porygon and its upgrades. (Pun intended)

I may have missed a few but that's my theory.

 

[Nacon]

Okay, my theory is this:

Spoiler:

When the universe came to be, Arceus was hatched from this aforementioned egg. It created Mew to create all other Pokemon. From Mew and Arceus decended Dialga and Palkia to start time flow and shape the planets of the universe. From Dialga decended Celebi who travels through time to keep things in balance and if it meets a pure-hearted person, give them a chance to fix a tragedy. (Reference-Pokemon Chronicles episode Celebi and Joy!) From Palkia decended Groudon and Regigigas. Groudon shaped the land of the earth while Regigigas broke them apart into continents. (Possible Pokemon explaination for the Continental Drift.) Kyogre was created as an opposite to Groudon so that the ocean could be. From Kyogre decended Lugia and Manaphy. After Kyogre and Groudon's struggle for power, when they fell into their sleep, Lugia took over as the ruler of the sea. Manaphy in turn, became next in line in case Lugia were to fall incapable of its job. (Thus the title Prince of the Sea) After this turn of events, Regigigas created Regirock, Registeel, and Regice as beacons if one of these beings were to awaken and overpower the other. Regigigas in turn, fell into a petrified state and could only be awakened by the beacons assembling around him. The Regi trio was scattered in Hoenn's off locations where a disturbance could be detected through that 1/3 of the area. From the power of the beacons, Rayquaza was born as the balance keeper. The Regi trio would send a telepathic alert to Rayquaza if Kyogre and Groudon would fight again. From the Regi trio decended the Legendary Birds and Dogs. Though not serving the same purpose as the beacons, these trios served their own role. The birds would awaken the ruler of the sea, Lugia, if the balance in nature was disrupted. The dogs would awaken Ho-oh if the world should be tainted with evil on an enormous scale. (Colloseum plot anybody?) Ho-oh decended from Mew and Arceus as ruler of the sky and keeper of peace in the world. Thus, the peace keeper Pokemon themselves, the Togepi family line decended from Ho-oh. From Mew decended Cresslia and from Arceus, Darkrai to control the phases of the moon. Cresslia was given the power to create plesant dreams while Darkrai gives out nightmares. Darkrai sometimes got carried away and put people in endless nightmares to please itself. Only Cresslia's Lunar Wing had the power to expel these bad dreams. Heatran was once a common Pokemon but has recently died out and few still exist. (Explaination for Heatran having a gender. However, it was unable to produce eggs due to its species becoming extinct. Ditto could not breed with it because of its akward organ posistions. O.O) At one point, Dialga and Palkia got out of control and the Psy Bros were created as Mew's children. They also represent the greatest qualities of human and Pokemon existance. (Willpower, Wisdom, and Emotions.) Shaymin was created to bring plants into the world. From Shaymin decended the grass type population. Giratina was created to rule the afterlife. When all Pokemon die, their spirits go to Turnback Cave and live in the alternate dimension. From Giratina and the souls of deceased Pokemon decended the ghost type. Mewtwo was one of the two human-made Pokemon, the other being Porygon and its upgrades. (Pun intended)

I may have missed a few but that's my theory.

eh.... I dunno know.. why do you feel that all these pokemon literally are all tied together.... I mean.. these legends could be tied to each region.

In Sinnoh, I don't hear anything about Mew, in Kanto you don't hear about Ray, and so on.... however.. in Hoenn and Kanto... you can see Ho-Oh and Lugia, as well as Deoxys... hmmm.

 

[Shiny Umbreon]

eh.... I dunno know.. why do you feel that all these pokemon literally are all tied together.... I mean.. these legends could be tied to each region.

In Sinnoh, I don't hear anything about Mew, in Kanto you don't hear about Ray, and so on.... however.. in Hoenn and Kanto... you can see Ho-Oh and Lugia, as well as Deoxys... hmmm.

That's actually in the Sevii Islands. It's just that you can go there from Hoenn.

 

[Nacon]

That's actually in the Sevii Islands. It's just that you can go there from Hoenn.

oh yea... good call.... I didn't think about that for a moment.

 

[Live in Color]

Why does everyone keep leaving out Latias and Latios? What's their position in being legendary. From the movie it is understood that they are a rare Pokemon, but can breed to make more of their species.

 

[Eos Aduro]

Latios had a father in the movie if Im corect, meaning not legendaries, just powerfull and rare.

 

[Live in Color]

Latios had a father in the movie if Im corect, meaning not legendaries, just powerfull and rare.

And yet they are classified as legendary.

Also didn't one of the Frontier Brains use an Articuno to battle Ash's Charizard? Would that have been a second Articuno, because I doubt it can fly fast enough to get around the world in seconds...

 

[kayabeans]

Me too, but I'm kinda leaning toward two Articuno. But, there have been multiple Latios before, so...

 

[MegaMushroom07]

Okay, my theory is this:

Spoiler:

When the universe came to be, Arceus was hatched from this aforementioned egg. It created Mew to create all other Pokemon. From Mew and Arceus decended Dialga and Palkia to start time flow and shape the planets of the universe. From Dialga decended Celebi who travels through time to keep things in balance and if it meets a pure-hearted person, give them a chance to fix a tragedy. (Reference-Pokemon Chronicles episode Celebi and Joy!) From Palkia decended Groudon and Regigigas. Groudon shaped the land of the earth while Regigigas broke them apart into continents. (Possible Pokemon explaination for the Continental Drift.) Kyogre was created as an opposite to Groudon so that the ocean could be. From Kyogre decended Lugia and Manaphy. After Kyogre and Groudon's struggle for power, when they fell into their sleep, Lugia took over as the ruler of the sea. Manaphy in turn, became next in line in case Lugia were to fall incapable of its job. (Thus the title Prince of the Sea) After this turn of events, Regigigas created Regirock, Registeel, and Regice as beacons if one of these beings were to awaken and overpower the other. Regigigas in turn, fell into a petrified state and could only be awakened by the beacons assembling around him. The Regi trio was scattered in Hoenn's off locations where a disturbance could be detected through that 1/3 of the area. From the power of the beacons, Rayquaza was born as the balance keeper. The Regi trio would send a telepathic alert to Rayquaza if Kyogre and Groudon would fight again. From the Regi trio decended the Legendary Birds and Dogs. Though not serving the same purpose as the beacons, these trios served their own role. The birds would awaken the ruler of the sea, Lugia, if the balance in nature was disrupted. The dogs would awaken Ho-oh if the world should be tainted with evil on an enormous scale. (Colloseum plot anybody?) Ho-oh decended from Mew and Arceus as ruler of the sky and keeper of peace in the world. Thus, the peace keeper Pokemon themselves, the Togepi family line decended from Ho-oh. From Mew decended Cresslia and from Arceus, Darkrai to control the phases of the moon. Cresslia was given the power to create plesant dreams while Darkrai gives out nightmares. Darkrai sometimes got carried away and put people in endless nightmares to please itself. Only Cresslia's Lunar Wing had the power to expel these bad dreams. Heatran was once a common Pokemon but has recently died out and few still exist. (Explaination for Heatran having a gender. However, it was unable to produce eggs due to its species becoming extinct. Ditto could not breed with it because of its akward organ posistions. O.O) At one point, Dialga and Palkia got out of control and the Psy Bros were created as Mew's children. They also represent the greatest qualities of human and Pokemon existance. (Willpower, Wisdom, and Emotions.) Shaymin was created to bring plants into the world. From Shaymin decended the grass type population. Giratina was created to rule the afterlife. When all Pokemon die, their spirits go to Turnback Cave and live in the alternate dimension. From Giratina and the souls of deceased Pokemon decended the ghost type. Mewtwo was one of the two human-made Pokemon, the other being Porygon and its upgrades. (Pun intended)

I may have missed a few but that's my theory.

I'm sure that this is from gamespot...

 

[Shiny Umbreon]

OK. This is a little offtopic. Rather than just defining each legendary's supposed occupation, we should be doubting about some.

For example, I don't know if Manaphy can do something special, but I think it can't. And Lugia is, well, a Psychic-type with Water-type moves but not really something important for the sea. On the other hand, I do believe Kyogre has control over the water. We've seen a lot in R/S/E.

 

[MegaMushroom07]

OK. This is a little offtopic. Rather than just defining each legendary's supposed occupation, we should be doubting about some.

For example, I don't know if Manaphy can do something special, but I think it can't. And Lugia is, well, a Psychic-type with Water-type moves but not really something important for the sea. On the other hand, I do believe Kyogre has control over the water. We've seen a lot in R/S/E.

I think that Kyogre made the water, Lugia controls the sea, whilst Suicune is responsible for purifying it.