I think that the people down at game freak just need something to make the game's plot more exciting, and don't really think when they're doing it. The Arceus legend is one of the dumbest and most rediculous of all. It says it's the god of all pokemon, but lets talk realistically, if some one captured our God, the real God, and he was forced to do what you tell it, the world would be hell now wouldn't it? Adding onto that, the world would come to an abrupt end.Yay! Another theory thread! Okay, let's start. Pokémon is a game where there are many legends told and fantastic things. However, if you don't count the fact that regular animals can firebreath or those things, it's basically a normal world where science and technology keeps upgrading. Manmade Pokémon have been created, a PC storage system exists, Poké Balls are able to capture them, Machines can teach Pokémon moves they can't learn by other means, and special methods to evolve Pokémon are being discovered such as radiaton (stones/hold items/location) or mental state (happiness). On the other side, we've all heard that Lugia is the guardian of the seas, that Entei makes volcanoes erupt when it barks, that Kyogre created the ocean and Groudon the earth, that Jirachi can grant wishes, that Dialga controls time, that Palkia created the space, that Giratina is said to live in a parallel universe, that Darkrai consumes you through nightmares, and that Arceus is the god who created Sinnoh with its thousand arms.However, we have never seen Lugia controlling the sea (unless they're used surf or something), Entei making volcanoes erupt, Jirachi granting wishes or Dialga travelling through time. Hoenn and Sinnoh seem to have more legends, but not real evidence of these fantastic situations. The plots make you believe all this happens, like Team Galactic wanting to control the universe through Dialga or Plakia, but really Gamefreak seems to point out in some way that science is more precise. It's said Arceus made the world while science says Mew is the ancestor of most known Pokémon. It was said Latias had powers to become invisible while the Dex says it has the ability to cover itself in a glass-like thing that refracts light. And supposedly Dialga made time and Palkia made space, but they don't seem to be stronger than Mewtwo, for example. They're just legends that don't make sense. And something that many of you probably never thought: Arceus has the better stats. However, it can't learn some moves, unlike Mew. It's something that lives in a heaven-like place with ridiculous stats. Could it be God? Actually, no. When you find it, you'll see it's simply a Lv80 Pokémon. Just that. It can be the strongest thing there, but you can still catch it in a Poké Ball. Do you think you could catch God in a Poké Ball? So, basically, this threads is to discuss about legends in the Pokémon world, especially Arceus. Do you think they are a little bit too exaggerated? Do you think science has proved enough? Is Arceus the real "creator of the world"? And do you think Gamefreak tries to tell us this on purpose? You've heard my opinion, so what does everyone else think?
hehe, doesnt it suck having posted in this thread since the beginning, only to have people throwing up theories that you've made way long ago?
Lets have a look at the legendaries who can, when controlled by a team (Galactic, Aqua, The one in Ruby (Lel, Aqua ftw)).
Kyroge; In Saph, Team Aqua believed that with Kyroge they could take over the world... or fill it with water. WAIT wasn't that Lugia's power?
No, lugia is the guardian of the see. It has never been stated he had any power over it.
Groudon; In Ruby, Team Magma(?) believed that with Groudon they could make the world perfect for all land-pokemon. Didnt ANOTHER pokemon make the land?
Groudon did not create the land, he expanded it through evaporation. Regigigas dragged the continents around, but it has never been stated that a pokemon created the land. That would be arceus who then in turn put pokemon on it to do the hard bits.
IMO, gamefreak keeps making random legendaries to keep up with the regions...
So you'd have been perfectly ok if this gen had NO legendries? No. You'd have complained.
So, Legendaries are not real.
In gaming terms they are. Get your facts straight
I think that the people down at game freak just need something to make the game's plot more exciting, and don't really think when they're doing it.
Ok, everyone's entitled to their opinion
The Arceus legend is one of the dumbest and most rediculous of all.
Not really, every legend in the world stems from religious beliefs, and therefore a god.
It says it's the god of all pokemon, but lets talk realistically, if some one captured our God, the real God,
Well i could say that your god is ridiculous, he goes against the laws of science too.
and he was forced to do what you tell it, the world would be hell now wouldn't it?
Why? What if Ghandi caught it? Would he go round smiting stuff?
Adding onto that, the world would come to an abrupt end.
Why would it? He's captured not dead
Also, if what the legend of arceus is true, in the game of course, then it would be able to learn any attack, have every nature, every stat combonation, every type combonation, and would be overall undefeatable.
Your thinking too much about the game and not the legends
Now in reality land, where i live,
Do you live in pokemon land?
if there was an arceus electric type, and a Garchomp with mediocre stats was up at bat against it, it would be able to take it in one or two moves.
Why? Arceus would use a different type move and beat your garchomp. If you want gaming reasons, arceus has a higher base speed and would attack first.
Now, put that Garchomp up against a Mew, the Mew would probably when just as fast as the Garchomp against the Electric Arceus.
If you had bothered to read at all, we have established mew isnt a legendary poke, just the last of an extinct species which every other poke originated from.
Now what kind of god would lose up against a mediocre Garchomp like that?
It wouldnt. Do your research.
Now, for Mew vs. Arceus. If Mew indeed was the origin for all pokemon, then wouldn't it be the god?
No, it is the ancestor, which is distant relative. Mew is essentially a dinasaur, hence the mew fossil mewtwo was created from. The mew you can catch is the last living mew, like heatran.
And where was Mew when he created Arceus, who created the Universe?
Arceus did. He came out of the chaos and made D&P, who in turn created the universe.
It all doesn't add up, at all.
It does
About the other legends, Kyogre creating the oceans,
It doesn't
Entei making Valcanos erupt,
Its a game, a child's game.anythings possible.
and Groudon creating the earth
It didn't.
well, what happened? Arceus created the universe and Groudon and Kyogre decided to take credit for his work?
No, it put them there to do a job.
And valcanos would be erupting every three second if Entei could do what the legend says.
It says it can make them erupt, it doesnt have to.
Now about giving examples of what they can do in the games, i don't think that's nececarilly important,
It is, its called evidence.This whole post was just you complaining
but i would feel better if they did. The games need to be more realistic.
No they dont. That would put them on tilt, either too easy or too hard.
Okay, so disreguarding what the game says, this how i think the pokemon world creation went down. Arceus created it self and the whole Universe. In its weakened state, it created millions of simple creations, Mews, to inhabit its new world. He also created Dialga and Palkia to control space and time,
Right up to this point, even though you're contradicting yourself.
Groudon and Kyogre to create a peaceful place for the Mews to go and develop, Lugia to protect the Mews inhabiting the seas, and so on with other Legends to protect respected aspects of Arceus's world.
Protect? They were made to create not to maintain, hence why most legends are found sleepin/frozen etc
Well, as the Mew's go and live, they adapt to the new situations, the Mew living in the valcanos slowly develop into Magmars and Magby,
Old point, i posted a half page theory on mew evolution
the Mews inhabiting the moon develop into Cleffas and Cleffary's, and so on.
Who said it had to be mew?
I know that in the film and the manga there is more than one deoxys. However, the Pokedex says that deoxys is a mutated virus that fell to earth. Therefore there is only one.
Not really, deoxys can fly. The may have cultivated on other planets and ended up banding together somehow.
As for Ho-oh I quote Pokemon Colosseum, as in the final cut-scene after beating Evice one flies around the colosseum. Eagan (or whoever) remarks: 'Look A Ho-oh'
I dont even know what point you're making
Not too much, I wouldnt expect them to read through the entire thread. What annoys me is when they state the obvious or make something up thats completey unfounded. Lets take this nonsense for example:
People: A word of warning. Spam with your pessimistic views in a thread involved with the direct opposite and i will personally rip your entire post to shreds simply to discredit any furure posts :)
I could build a gundam in- *Shoot*
Well I guess if you captured the legends then maybe
they lose their power or something? Or would the
world just fall into chaos then? =P
It's possible that there more than one of those
legends. The three legendary birds hatched
from eggs didn't they? Maybe Raikou breeded with
a Pidgeot or something to make Zapdos? xD
