Making an attempt for a team...

[latioslegends]

I never really gotten into competetive battling so consider me a bit of a newbie... and I could use any advice in a team I decided to start putting together.

1. Vaporeon
Leftovers
Nature Bold
EVs 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
wish
protect
surf
Ice beam (was thinking of hindden power electric, but my breeding ain't too good)

Purpose: hoping to stall with it, maybe use it in combination with Sawmpert in doubles.

2. Swampert
Leftovers
Nature Relaxed
EVs 240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA
Earthquake
ice beam
surf
protect

Purpose: standerd, just meant for combination with Vaporeon.

3. Salamence
Life orb
Nature Mild
EVs 84 Atk / 216 SpA / 208 Spe
Draco meteor
Roost
Fire blast
Brick break

Purpose standerd mix mence, was thinking of waiting till platnium to change to CB mence

4. Lucario
CB
Nature Jolly
EVs 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Close combat
extremespeed
stone edge
ice punch

Purpose: Just an average Lucario... >.>

5. Latias
Life orb
Nature Timid
EVs 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Tunderbolt
Surf (Is there something better I should pick?)
Recover
Draco meteor

Purpose: I think I cover a enough defense with swampert and vaporeon, thought going offensive with this might help a litte. (thank you smogon xD)

6. I couldn't decide... was thinking about going for a Zapdos, or Suicune...


I appreciate any bit of advice :). I'll take any recommendations of changing pokemon.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Eh go on then, ill allow this.


Stealth Rock >> Protect on Swampert and lead with it. Consider Roar >> Surf too, it helps with suicune etc.

Hidden Power Electric >> Ice Beam on vappy for Gyarados and use max hp / max def. The sp.att was only there to OHKO chomp who is now uber. In addition vappy is a bad dragon counter being 2hko'd by all of them, so there is no need for them.


Rash >> Mild on mence, it helps switching on on physical fighters.

80 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 176 SPEED to outpace Lucario. (Your evs make no sense and the only thing they look like beating is like Jolly Gyarados. 1. No one uses jolly dos 2. Vappy walls the hell out of it).


Scizor is the biggest weak i can see and so is mence.

Jirachi@Choice Scarf
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Iron head
- Zen Headbutt / U-Turn

In the last slot imo, so you can revenge kill stuff.


Your team looks kinda offensively lacking and you lack anything to sweep late game. Id make either mence or Lucario DD or SD respectively.

 

[latioslegends]

So replace Mence with DD mence, and Lucario with SD.

As for vappy, would a defensive Zapdos make a good replacment? Scizzor seems like something to hit my team hard now that you mention it.

Zapdos
leftovers
Nature bold
EVs 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
thunderbolt
heatwave
Roost
Roar/hidden power ice?

Oh and thank you for the advice.

 

[Dark Azelf]

So replace Mence with DD mence, and Lucario with SD.

As for vappy, would a defensive Zapdos make a good replacment? Scizzor seems like something to hit my team hard now that you mention it.

Zapdos
leftovers
Nature bold
EVs 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
thunderbolt
heatwave
Roost
Roar/hidden power ice?

Oh and thank you for the advice.

No because that doesnt deal with mence.

 

[latioslegends]

Alright then what would you recommend as a good replacement?

 

[Dark Azelf]

Alright then what would you recommend as a good replacement?

Check my previous post, last slot = Jirachi.

 

[latioslegends]

Alrihgt Jirachi, and change Vaporeon's Ice Beam to Hidden Electric.

Out of your opinion? would it better to change Mence to DD, or Lucario to SD? (or just leave them alone >.> sorry the questions if I ask too much)