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3rd Gen Marshtomp's Weakness

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Your Lombre would work fine, if you could find the Giga Drain TM. Don't worry about tha 'tomp having ice beam, it's too early in the game to find the TM and your friend probably wouldn't think of teaching it anyway. Lombre is only weak to poison, flying, and bug type attacks.
The Giga Drain TM may be found on route 123.
 
Whatever you do, do not use Tropius. Marshtomp/Swampert can destroy that thing with Ice Beam, while easily taking down your Combusken/Blaziken with a water or ground attack. Unless you had some unholy backup plan, you would lose a third of your team right off the get-go. I would suggest evolving your Lombre to Ludicolo ASAP, since that thing is a pain to kill without exploiting it's weaknesses. I normally would agree with Shanecdavis about the Gengar, but unless you have access to FR/LG, then there is no way you can get that. Any other grass type you could possibly choose will have at least a possible 2x weakness, 4x for Tropius, to Ice Beam. So yeah, Ludicolo is the way to go.

Oh, and good luck. Swampert is a beast. It isn't considered one of the best Pokemon in the without reason.
 
Wut u need is definantly a grass type, it works best.
 
Everyone already said that above, and it's obvious that a grass type will work best when it is Marshtomp/Swampert's only weakness. The only issue here is determining which grass type to use against it. Still, I say Ludicolo... Ludicolo's typing will ensure that Marshtomp/Swampert will never hit it with anything more than 1x damage and it has STAB grass attacks with already a 4x grass weakness the Marshtomp/Swampert has.
 
get a sableye

then let your mate try to find its weakness

either that or what everyone else is saying, a ludicolo
 
Sableye may not have any weaknesses, but it also won't have anything that can take a Swampert or Marshtomp down. That thing is simply too powerful and has a great blend of physical and special moves. You're almost required to take it down with a grass type. Very few non-grass type Pokemon in the game can touch it. Ludicolo just happens to have the right typing.

You have to balance out everything good with everything bad here. You could go with Sableye, but you would be compromising power for immunity from weakness. If you go with Tropius, you can avoid ground attacks but have 4x weakness to Ice Beam. Ludicolo is hit with, at most, 1x anything that family can throw at it, and can deal some damaging blows. The starter, Combusken or Blaziken, will just get owned at the start from either ground or water attacks. Gengar would be great, but getting one in R/S/E is impossible without FR/LG. Legendarys would work, but are 1)cheap and 2)impossible to get this early in the game.

There are several other Pokemon that I could give pros and cons for, but I think I have covered the significant ones as of now. Anyone else can feel free to suggest a valid Pokemon to take on Marshtomp/Swampert, but I doubt anything you can catch ingame can even compare to Ludicolo's advantage here.
 
Hmmmm...i dont think anybody said grass was its weakness....yeah so get a grass pokemon ;) im also having a christmas eve battle with my cuz....im going to wipe the floor with him.....
 
Ok...well this is simply easy...the only weakness it has is Grass like everyone else said....lol
 
Hmmmm...i dont think anybody said grass was its weakness....yeah so get a grass pokemon
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Did you even read the other twenty-something replies? Almost everyone that has posted has mentioned grass being it's only weakness. You're basically reiterating what everyone said, but without providing evidence.

If you use Ludicolo, then I would suggest either teaching it Giga Drain or Sunny Day and Solar Beam. Sunny day will weaken the power of ice, which is pretty much the only thing it has that will do any sort of damage against it, and Solar Beam won't have that annoying charge turn as long as Sunny Day is in effect. Plus, Blaziken/Combusken will benefit from the powerup if you need to switch in later in the battle.

Oh, and give it Ice Beam in case your opponent switches in to a flying type. That will certainly surprise him/her.
 
PrincessPeach said:
Thanks everyone for your suggestions and assistance.



Oh yeah, I have a Kirlia right now that I'm leveling up- she's my secondary/Lieutenant Pokemon after Combusken.
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Eh? A physical set on Gardevoir is sooo not cute!
 
Make sure Gardevoir has Psychic and ThunderBolt. Calm Mind is recommended.

Flygon can learn Sunny Day and Solar Beam, or Giga Drain if you cannot afford to set up. It is guranteed to be faster than Swampert and enjoys an immunity to EQ. The draw back is that you can only get Flygon by training Vibrava (which evolves from Trapinch at Lv35) until Level 45. Vibrava also have the same benefits, but it cannot gurantee to outrun Swampert. If I had misunderstood you when you posted that both of you are at Lv 30, ignore this paragraph.

Beautifly cannot outrun Swampert 100% of the time, but it usually does. It learns Mega Drain at Lv 24 and Giga Drain at Lv 38. It also benefits from an EQ immunity. Its SpAtk is even higher than Flygon's.

Sure, all of them suffers from Ice Beam, but if you can get them in safely (predict when your opponent uses EQ), it will mean trouble to Swampert.

Mind you, I am using Swampert here to give you a perspective of how strong Beautifly can be towards Marshtomp.

May I ask, which game are you using? Are you able to trade? Who is part of your team?
 
Okay, a team i'd reccomend for you which is perfect for someone new or experienced to the game.

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Psychic
Thunderbolt
Calm Mind or Icepunch
Firepunch
(Okay, this one will just be a general powerhouse thanks to its great Sp. Attack and such)

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Blazekick
Overheat
Sky Uppercut
Thunderpunch or Earthquake
(Okay, Blaziken owns. I'd reccomend you teach it Thunderpunch to deal with Water + Flying types)

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Earthquake
Surf
Icebeam
Rock Tomb or Your Choice
(Okay, Whiscash is a vital powerhouse. Ice to deal with its grass weakness. It can learn Spark as an egg move if bred with Chinchou I think. I reccomend this moveset since it is typical and easy for a newbie to own their opponents with)

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Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Petaldance
Sludgebomb / Razor Leaf
(Okay, i'd reccomend a Bellossom for the simple fact you can get Oddish early in the game and a Sun Stone near the psychic gym)

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Icepunch
Firepunch
Thunderpunch
Hypervoice
(Okay. Wigglytuff provides a good wall of HP to heal up and such. It also has a high attack stat for all three elemental punches which is very useful. Yes, I bet your thinking why should you have two elemental punch users. Wigglytuff and Gardevoir are completely different since Gardevoir will use special and Wigglytuff will use Physical and it will provide a very good wall of HP)

Thats my two cents on your team, its what I would reccomend considering you chose Torchic as your starter and evolved it. I'm not reccomending natures because I don't use natures or do EV training. You could also go with a flying type such as Skarmory or you could get a Flygon.

I'm not reccomending legendaries and good luck.
 
UPDATE: My cousin totally ruined the event last night because he leveled up his Pokemon to levels 34-35! We agreed on level 30 being the average of our Pokemon. I was pretty upset to say the least. He did a good job of ruining the whole match.
 
Gah, what a royal pain. I suppose he's evolved it to Swampert now. Well, there's always next time. And make sure that if he overlevels his pokemon you won't battle, simple.
 
I was in the same predicament a long time ago, but there were four of us, like a team battle so to speak.

Any who i too had a the combusken while my designated rival had the marshstomp.

long story short i got my partner to trade me a sun stone and tm 22 i think it is (solar beam) along with a sunkern ( i think either way i either ended up with sunflora or belossom).... short story even shorter i won lol

sucks that he's killed you with the training though, better luck next time eh ;)
 
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If you guys will battle again, catch a Lotad, it'll be super effective against Marshtomp but Marshtomp's water attacks won't do that much damage to you
 
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