My double battle team. Rate and help plz.

[MATTFO0]

RMT-hail

Sup, I got the pokemon pearl around january last year and just recently go into competitive battleing r whatever. I compete on Gamebattles, and right now I'm working on my DOUBLE BATTLE TEAM. Here's what i got, suggestions r appreiciated a lot. I've now started using this team for single battles as well and had a few successful battles.

STARTERS
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Abomasnow@ leftovers
EV's= 252 HP / 20 SpA / 160 SpD / 76 Spe
Sassy
-Blizzard
-Leech Seed
-Protect
-Wood Hammer

Blastoise@ leftovers
EV's= 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA
Bold
-Rapid Spin/Toxic ???
-Protect
-Surf
-Blizzard

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Electivire@ Expert Belt
EV's= 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant
-Thunderpunch
-Ice punch
-Cross Chop
-Fire Punch/Earthquake

Charizard@ Life Orb???
EV's= Unknown, Some Sp. Atk
Timid
-Focus Blast
-Flamethrower
-Air Slash
-Blast Burn

Mamoswine@???
EV's= 64 HP, 252 Atk, 194 Spe
Adamant
-Ice Shard
-Ice Fang
-EQ
-Rock Slide

Frosslass@ Focus Sash
EV's= 6 HP 252 Sp.Atk 252 Spe
Modest
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic
-Tbolt
-Blizzard
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Feel free to suggest entire new pokemon and sets. I would like to keep my first 2 as starters cuz i like the 100% blizzard accuracy in the hail storm.

Thanks


EDIT: Newly edited, Mamoswine and Frosslass for Torterra and Luxray.

 

[Archer]

Use the edit button in future. You will need to take hits better and Blastoise isn't going to work on it's own. Also, if you are running a Hail Team, then Walrein couldn't go astray. Neither could Regice/Articuno. I suggest removing Luxray, Torterra and Charizard. Heatran or something with Flash Fire would work well, as you can absorb Fire attacks, which you have serious problems with.

I would do a full rate, but I don't have the time.

 

[MATTFO0]

ok, thanks a lot dude. if u ever have enough time for a full rate i would appriciate it

 

[Azonic]

I would advise you to get more Pokemon who work well in the hail. Seems like besides Abomasnow all your Pokemon are damaged by hail - which isn't good. I'd suggest Mamoswine and Articuno combination because they can wall Pokemon effectively and make great use of Hail. Substitute over Protect on Abomasnow for the annoying subseeder. As far as Electivire goes, it can't sweep for crap. Charizard isn't too good of a sweeper without any boosts (Life Orb and Hail Damage isn't the best combination either). NEVER use Hyperbeam forms like Blast Burn.

 

[.]

No Snorlax? Heatran runs all over you. I have a Hail team, and it uses Snorlax and Walrein as walls. May seem crazy to have two, but they are immensely helpful.

Frosslass is also possibly on of the best Pokemon in the Snow, it's sort of like a Snowy Kingdra.

Mamoswine needs to be here, looks up it's sets on Smogon.

 

[Archer]

It's worth noting, that Mamoswine (and it's line) is the only pokemon aside from Clefable that is immune to both Hail and Sandstorm.

 

[MATTFO0]

o ok i might consider mamoswine as well.

 

[Aquilae]

Um, this is a double battle team, so single battle strategies and EV spreads do not work in this metagame.

I have virtually no experience in the double battle metagame, most I've read is theorymon, but from what I see you need to revamp your whole team and focus on adding a central strategy and a way to prevent other setuppers. From what I see, random Trick Room/Sunny Day/Rain Dance teams would mess the whole team up.

All your pokemon sans Charizard is hit by Earthquake as well as the non-immunity/resistance to Explosion. Random exploders would do a significant amount of damage when you are not protecting, which is omnipresent on your team as Abomasnow and Blastoise are the only ones with Protect.

I don't have to explain why all the sets and pokemon choices are bad for doubles.

As I was saying, you need a Fake Outer/Taunter, and you need a counter for Follow Me, which would be Rock Slide given that Togekiss is the most common user. You should try out Taunt Crobat which would prevent setups easily due to immunity to Fake Out.

I would recommend you to read this article which would be a great help in preparing for and understanding the Double Battle Metagame:
https://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/double_battles

 

[MATTFO0]

newly edited. please can some1 make some more rates?

 

[Archer]

Ok, you have no Special Wall, so you will need to add one. I suggest Snorlax or Regice. Regice doesn't take Hail damage and Snorlax (w/ Thick Fat) resists Fire attacks as well as any Blizzards flying around with 100% Accuracy.

Also, as I said in my first post, Walrein would be useful, as it actually gets healed in the hail.

Electivire and Charizard seem to be the most out of place in the team, so replacing them could not hurt, although there is some merit in retaining Electivire for Absorbing electric attacks, however, you have Mamoswine for that.

 

[Sora_8920]

Yeah, as aforementioned, you really need a Special Wall. >:0 Go Rapid Spin on Blastoise since Charizard is pretty much screwed by Stealth Rock. >:( Timid is probably better than Modest on Frolass, as it's similar to Gengar; it needs the speed. >:0

Earthquake on Electrivire since Fire Punch could cause a Heatran to come in or something. =/

 

[MATTFO0]

what if i put a choice scarf on frosslass? and would a Walrein/Lapras be better than blastoise?

 

[Anti]

I would advise you to get more Pokemon who work well in the hail. Seems like besides Abomasnow all your Pokemon are damaged by hail - which isn't good. I'd suggest Mamoswine and Articuno combination because they can wall Pokemon effectively and make great use of Hail. Substitute over Protect on Abomasnow for the annoying subseeder. As far as Electivire goes, it can't sweep for crap. Charizard isn't too good of a sweeper without any boosts (Life Orb and Hail Damage isn't the best combination either). NEVER use Hyperbeam forms like Blast Burn.

Wait, what? How do they wall things effectively? Most of the metagame beats both of them down when it comes to them walling things.

But yeah, this team doesn't look double battle ready at all. I'd take Aquilae's suggestion and read up on this stuff first before making a team. IMO this team really is beyond fixing since there are so many problems, so I'd just blow it up and start over (after learning more about this metagame of course).

 

[MATTFO0]

well i've actually done more single battles since doubles arent 2 popular. i dunno if that changes ur opinion on my team. but ive actually had some pretty good matches