My First Team... :) for Wi-Fi, NOT SHODDY

[Stop Messing Up My Files Porygon-Z!]

Modest Porygon2, Trace
Life Orb
31/x/31/31/31/31
6 HP, 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spe
Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
Dark Pulse
Ice Beam

The Only Change would make....
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I do not see how a Pokemon with inferior Special Attack and no Adaptability is superior to my Porygon-Z.

 

[airconditioning]

For the record, Porygon2 is much bulkier than Z- an extra 20 points in both Def and SDef. Not to mention Trace, which gives it free reign to switch in on Gyarados and Salamence.

That being said, that set, while not only being retarded, is illegal- P2 can't learn Nasty Plot. That is basically an inferior P-Z- if you want to use P2, make use of its 85/90/95 defenses. Like this:

Porygon2 @ Leftovers/ Lum Berry
Bold, Trace
252 HP/ 120 Def/ 40 SAtk/ 96 SDef
- Ice Beam
- Discharge / Thunderbolt
- Magic Coat / Thunder Wave
- Recover

 

[.]

Okay, I see you made a lot of changes to the team, but those changes can't stop a Dragon Dance Gyarados/Salamence. One option is to change Porygon-Z to a Timid Choice Scarfer, which outruns any Gyarados after a DD, and Admant Salamence after a Dragon Dance:

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Timid
252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP
Tri Attack
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Dark Pulse

It provides a decent revenge killer, although not the ideal one. You can settle for Modest, but then Salamence destroys you.

Or, you could just use a Porygon2 over Z, who can be a wall and answer to Gyarados/Salamence.

 

[Stop Messing Up My Files Porygon-Z!]

I wonder...If I replaced Luke's Crunch with Ice Punch, would it be able to counter Salamence if, on the first turn that Salamence is out, Lucario uses Ice Punch and then Extremespeed? Maybe, because before a Dragon Dance, Lucario outspeeds Salamence. (at least the DD varieties) But I think that if Salamence uses Earthquake instead of Dragon Dance, then Lucario is doomed.

I doubt Dragon Dancing Gyarados will be very speedy if Togekiss manages to Thunder Wave it... Also, I think that Porygon-Z will be faster compared to other Pokémon if Togekiss paralyzes something.

 

[airconditioning]

For Luke to counter Mence, he'll need to be able to reliably switch in on him- which he can't. And in most situations, Mence would just outright kill Luke- if Mence switched in on an SD, he would lower Luke's attack, then OHKO with Earthquake (especially if it's not a DD variety).

 

[Stop Messing Up My Files Porygon-Z!]

I know, I know... It would just use Earthquake. Just a thought, though.

I'll either go with the moveset shown below on PoryZ, or use the Special Attacker Pory2 set. Alternatively, I could go with the Sub Salac PoryZ set.

Agility/Nasty Plot
Thunderbolt/Dark Pulse
Ice Beam
Tri Attack

 

[.]

You don't understand. That does not handle Gyarados or Salamence after a Dragon Dance. They will not let you set up an Agility once they're in. They will OHKO you with one of their moves, and then you're basically done for, as nothing on your team reliably defeats either of these two. Scarf that P-Z, or just use P2. Both are decent "checks" for Gyarados and Salamence, although P2 is much, much more reliable.

 

[Stop Messing Up My Files Porygon-Z!]

Few new changes... Rate this new team!

 

[Archer]

A few things....
Lucario would be much better with Jolly and Ice Punch. This means Salamence cannot come in and end your sweep unless it is a Jolly 252 Spd variant, +Spd variants becoming increasingly rare... Aside from that, it also takes slow Gliscors out. Which brings me to antoher point. Gliscor should probably run enough speed to outrun Jolly Luke. Sure, it limits it's Defensive ability, but it lets it deal with the threat that it's there for.

Um, that Porygon2 won't work properly. Either run ScarfZ or Airconditioning's Bulky P2.

 

[Stop Messing Up My Files Porygon-Z!]

Different Porygon-Z!

Different Porygon2, too!

PLEASE RATE THIS...

A few things....
Lucario would be much better with Jolly and Ice Punch. This means Salamence cannot come in and end your sweep unless it is a Jolly 252 Spd variant, +Spd variants becoming increasingly rare... Aside from that, it also takes slow Gliscors out. Which brings me to antoher point. Gliscor should probably run enough speed to outrun Jolly Luke. Sure, it limits it's Defensive ability, but it lets it deal with the threat that it's there for.

I do have access to a Jolly Lucario, but I need at least one other person to agree with you before I do this. And about Gliscor-NO. If it runs enough Speed, then Lucario will do MORE damage. And what does "antoher" mean?[/sarcasm]

 

[Archer]

Different Porygon-Z!

Different Porygon2, too!

PLEASE RATE THIS...



I do have access to a Jolly Lucario, but I need at least one other person to agree with you before I do this. And about Gliscor-NO. If it runs enough Speed, then Lucario will do MORE damage. And what does "antoher" mean?[/sarcasm]

Oh, you're funny. :| By the way, if you want to pick at my formatting, you've just deleted half of your RMT :D
...Um, it won't be doing more if you OHKO it with Earthquake. For the record, the Smogon Standard now runs 216 Spd, so I don't think suggesting 188 is unreasonable.

 

[luke]

OMG! I FEEL SO BAD FOR YOU! YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO SOME WORK YOURSELF AND BREED YOUR OWN POKEMON! HERE, BREEDING POKEMON IS HARD WORK AND YOU DESERVE A BREAK. LET ME RUB YOUR FEET.

Listen. I'm getting tired of your attitude. People who are rude to those taking their time to rate their team don't deserve their own thread. Cut the crap or don't expect another RMT thread in S&M for a while.

And in my experience, you always want to ensure you outrun Gliscor with Lucario. Not all of the analysis have been updates yet, so some may feature outdated movesets / EV spreads.

 

[Stop Messing Up My Files Porygon-Z!]

That's not what I meant! I actually quite enjoy breeding, especially breeding Porygon! But it's hard, because HP breeding is hard and I've only ever bred once. I think if I can breed this, I'll have the confidence to breed anything! THAT'S why I'm not giving up or stopping for any reason. I don't do it because I think it'll be easy. I do it because I think it'll be hard. And it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it. Maybe I'll have to breed my Aerodactyl too. I'm just so used to trading, I hadn't had time to breed. But that changed when I bred a quint-flawless Cacturne for no apparent reason.

And about my attitude, I'm sorry. I do realize now that Gliscor and Lucario need to run enough speed, being natural enemies. I do realize all the time that teams take time to be rated. I just was afraid that the teams weren't being rated at all. Now I'm lucky that ANYONE's rating my team, after what I did.

 

[Stop Messing Up My Files Porygon-Z!]

Let me rephrase that dreadful post-

Since this is a Wifi team, you can't always expect me to have access to these Pokemon. Fortunately, I do, but I can't get them immediately because I'm busy breeding. Breeding is NOT hard work, by the way. All you have to do is press up and down and you can multitask it.

What spread do you recommend for Gliscor?