My First Team... help please.

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    Okay so this kind of happened by accident, I just started breeding to get perfect IV's after reading about it started breeding eeevees cuz their cute. Now I have 4 IV bred and EV trained pokemons. So I want 2 more to make a full team.

    (I understand that my current composition is probably god awful and useless but I'm not trying to be the best, I bred them cuz I like them.)

    I'm not really looking to replace any of my mons unless I particularly like the suggested pokemon. I'm mainly looking for the last 2 mons that would most help the 4 I currently have. Just want to stress I AM open to other suggestions of pokemon but at the same time it takes me a long time to breed pokemon and so I'd prefer suggestions of 2 bandaid pokemon to fix this mess in the last slots over replacements of my current mons.

    Mega-Scizor - Adamant - 252 Atk, 252 Hp, 4Sp.Def technician / scizorite
    Bullet Punch
    X-scissor
    Swords Dance
    Roost

    Sylveon - Modest - 252 HP, 129 Sp .Atk, 129 Sp. Def Cute Charm / Leftovers
    Moonblast
    Calm Mind
    Psyshock
    Shadow Ball

    Ludicolo - Bold - 164 HP, 140 Def, 68 SpA, 4 SpD, 132 Spe Swift Swim (I want ability capsule to change to rain dish) / Assault Vest
    Scald
    Energy Ball
    Ice Beam
    Focus Blast

    Politoed - Bold - 252 HP, 252 Def. 4 SpD Drizzle /Damp Rock
    Scald
    Toxic
    Protect
    Ice Beam

    I know after reading that you are all probably trying to remove your palms from your foreheads so forgive me. I bred sylveon cuz I liked it, bred ludicolo for the same reason, then got the politoed because I wanted Ludicolo to be able to swift swim and scizzor because I found a scyther when I was running around.... :D Please any suggestions from you guys n gals I would love, thank you!
     
    It's actually not as horrible as you think. Mega Scizor is a good poke and appreciates the rain that Politoed brings, cover's Sylveon's Poison and Steel weaknesses, and you did put in a Pokemon that can make use of that rain (Ludicolo). Before I suggest pokes for the last 2 slots though there's just a few set fixes I need to point out first.

    Knock Off>X-Scissor on Scizor. Bug's kinda a crappy offensive type most of the time. Knock Off still hits Psychics super effectively, isn't resisted by Fire (and those'll be trying to switch in on Scizor a lot), and has the incredibly useful effect of removing the opposing poke's item (bar a few exceptions). Bullet Punch after a Swords Dance is what's gonna do most of the work anyway.

    If you can, try to get a Sylveon with it's Hidden ability, Pixilate, and teach it Hyper Voice. Pixilated Hyper Voice does more damage than Moonblast and bypasses Substitutes.

    Personally I'd just keep Swift Swim on Ludicolo and go 252 Sp.Attack/252 Speed and swap Energy Ball with Giga Drain. It's gonna be really fast in the rain which helps you beat other fast pokes like Mega Loppunny, Mega Swampert in the rain, some Choice Scarfers, etc.

    Let's see, for the last 2 slots.....I take it you're gonna be doing Battle Spot so you don't really need entry hazards or hazard removal, so, uh.....team looks to be kinda Mega Charizard weak. Both megas kinda wreck your team; both of them annihilate Scizor, Zard X sweeps your 4 mons after a Dragon Dance, Zard Y resists Sylveon's STAB and sun boosted Fire Blasts hurt it pretty bad, Zard Y negates Politoed's rain with Drought and then proceeds to Solarbeam it, and Ludicolo's not beating it while the sun is shining either. But it's kinda hard to deal with them individually, let alone having a check for both of them. Mega Altaria does check them both fairly well but your mega slot is already taken by Scizor (unless you'd be willing to use non-Mega Scizor?). If you don't go with Mega Altaria then, idk, use something fast with a Rock attack or something. thought I was gonna have ideas for this but apparently not
     
    Other rain abusers to include are Kabutops and Therian Tornadus. The latter can fire off accurate Hurricanes in rain, while the former provides Rapid Spin support to get Stealth Rock off the field. Mamoswine can also act as a Stealth Rock lead, as that hazard is pretty important in competitive play:

    Therian Tornadus:
    -Hurricane
    -Focus Blast/Superpower
    -U-turn
    -Knock Off
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 96 HP/160 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Assault Vest

    or
    -Hurricane
    -Focus Blast/Superpower
    -Knock Off
    -U-turn/Taunt
    Nature: Hasty
    EVs: 76 Atk/180 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Kabutops:
    -Stone Edge
    -Waterfall
    -Low Kick/Aqua Jet
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Swift Swim

    Mamoswine:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Ice Shard
    -Earthquake
    -Endeavor/Icicle Spear/Knock Off
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash
    Ability: Oblivious/Thick Fat

    As for Scizr, make its HP 248, as with absolute max HP EVs, it will be KOed in 8 Stealth Rock switch-ins if it didn't take damage for those entire 8 turns. If you're looking for a bulky Swords Dance Scizor, a more efficient nature and spread is Impish with 248 HP/44 Atk/16 Def/200 SDef. This avoids the 2HKO from Adamant Therian Landorus' Earthquake, Mega Gardevoir's Focus Blast, and Latios' Draco Meteor + Hidden Power Fire, as well as the OHKO (and the 2HKO in rain) from Clefable's Fire Blast and Mega Diancie's Hidden Power Fire. Tl;dr:
    -Swords Dance
    -U-turn/Knock Off/Superpower
    -Bullet Punch
    -Roost
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/44 Atk/16 Def/200 SDef
    Item: Scizorite

    All-out attacking Sylveon is better off using Specs, as it can fire off its powerful attacks off the bat. Its low uninvested Defense also makes setting up Calm Minds difficult; physically defensive Sylveon has a much easier time doing this:
    -Hyper Voice
    -Psyshock
    -Hidden Power (Ground/Fire)/Shadow Ball
    -Baton Pass
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Pixilate
     
    Let's see, for the last 2 slots.....I take it you're gonna be doing Battle Spot so you don't really need entry hazards or hazard removal, so, uh.....team looks to be kinda Mega Charizard weak. Both megas kinda wreck your team; both of them annihilate Scizor, Zard X sweeps your 4 mons after a Dragon Dance, Zard Y resists Sylveon's STAB and sun boosted Fire Blasts hurt it pretty bad, Zard Y negates Politoed's rain with Drought and then proceeds to Solarbeam it, and Ludicolo's not beating it while the sun is shining either. But it's kinda hard to deal with them individually, let alone having a check for both of them. Mega Altaria does check them both fairly well but your mega slot is already taken by Scizor (unless you'd be willing to use non-Mega Scizor?). If you don't go with Mega Altaria then, idk, use something fast with a Rock attack or something. thought I was gonna have ideas for this but apparently not

    building on this, thundurus would be a cool option since it can stop zard x from sweeping u after dd thanks to twave, lets u beat char y outside of rain, and also gives u a talon check. ass vest raikou can also be an option, but personally i find it quite weak. Also if u want thundurus can abuse rain by using thunder, but i think tbolt's accuracy comes to use when rain is done for. assault vest tornadus is also a quite decent option.
    also i think magic gaurd cm clefable would be a better option over sylv, its certainly much better defensively. azelf could also be good as a suicide lead, also it can rain dance! but i dont think its much a choice given that ur not abusing rain specifically outside of maybe ludi.
     
    Knock Off>X-Scissor on Scizor. Bug's kinda a crappy offensive type most of the time. Knock Off still hits Psychics super effectively, isn't resisted by Fire (and those'll be trying to switch in on Scizor a lot), and has the incredibly useful effect of removing the opposing poke's item (bar a few exceptions). Bullet Punch after a Swords Dance is what's gonna do most of the work anyway.

    I don't think I can get knock off in pokemon x, it says on the wiki by move tutor but I went to every move tutor in the game and they don't teach it to me.




    As for the kabutops and Therian Tornadus I think I would like a kabutops. I kind of stray away from legendaries as I don't really like them, except for Mew because of the 1st movie. Kabutops though sounds awesome, it looks like I will have to try and get one through trading though as pokemon x can't get the right fossil... there are so many hurdles in breeding haha.

    And as for stealth rock, is there any other suggestions over Mamoswine? I'm not a fan of him really.


    Also, with my mons having wrong moves and abilities, that's all unintentional, I did want a pixilate Sylveon but I was breeding for so long when I finally got the right IV's I just took what I had haha... and with lotad I didn't realise giga drain was an egg move in my game. If I ever get the motivation to rebreed them I will as I have a 6IV ditto it isn't that bad anymore (it was awful at the start).

    I'm happy to correct the EV spread though, whenever I come across another reset bag in super training I guess haha... haven't seen one in a long time.

    Edit: I really like my mega scizor, I don't really want to change him for mega altaria, that isn't to say I wont change him for a different mega if I like it though.
     
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    Ah, I thought that you were playing on ORAS and not X/Y. The move tutors that teach Knock Off and all that, as well as Altaria's mega stone, are only in ORAS. Do whatever floats yer boat though. If you need help getting certain Pokemon though, the Trade Corner is a good place to go to.
     
    I managed to trade for a kabutops in the gts, so I will start trying to breed that maybe tomorrow.
     
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