My God(s)!.....?

[Phantom1]

Edit - About evolution/creation and their color. While he made two at first, their decendents could have developed darker/lighter skincolour later on. And again, after the 40 days/nights flood, except this time at a greater pace.

Well, if you're going to go with the Bible... all life on Earth not on that ark was killed. Restarting that process.

But as said earlier, it's metaphoric.

Anyway, here is the best proof that the Adam and Eve story is pure crap. We know that reproducing with your close family (Aka, parents, siblings, first cousins) will lead to severe genetic abnormalities. Care to guess what options Adam and Eve's children had for partners? Yep. Thats right. Their siblings. Or parents.

But hey, **** logic right?

Actually... even less than that. Adam and Eve's first children were Cain and Able... and Cain was cast out. Though there are still some that believe it's a legit story, when it's just a myth.

Also a recent study in Iceland showed that marrying third cousins increases fertility rate, making it biologically smart. Fun little tid bit.

 

[shnen]

Not really, it existed in the BC years. It just didn't kick off until the AD years.

Anyway, BC and AD... What do we call the years in-between?

BC= Before Christ so by definition Christianity could not have existed then

AD= Anno Domini which means year of the master i.e. the year of Jesus Christ

there are no years between BC and AD as AD began straight after the birth of Jesus Christ and BC was everything up to the birth of Christ

As a christian/catholic(I was born and raised in both beliefs) I say god isn't real, too many loop holes and gaps in the logic.. The whole thing doesn't make sense, no one believed in god/jesus before Christ all those years BC(Before Christ) people believed in Greek gods and other gods.. Then one man comes alone proposed a crazy idea, builds a cult off of it and Christianity is born....

yeah, monotheism had existed for far longer than merely christianity if that's what you're getting at by people not believing in God before Jesus came along

also I was under the impression that the Christian God is Yahweh i.e. the Jewish God, especially given the Old Testament being part of the Biblic canon and the only original difference (aside from ideology from the teaching of Jesus) is the belief that Jesus was the Messiah

I mean I may be completely misunderstanding what you're saying but Judaism and Zoroastrianism are both arguably monotheistic (or at least close to it for Zoroastrianism) and predate Christianity by hundreds / thousands of years


anyway on topic some people hold the belief that despite all the different religions everyone is worshipping the same god, just different forms of it

personally I am a staunch atheist but I can still see the reasoning behind this and it is possible, although unlikely

 

[Livewire]

God is real because the Bible says so. The Bible was written by God.

The bible didn't fall from the sky and gently land in Abraham's lap. Come on.

 

[Mr. X]

Your forgetting something though, the fact that Christ was executed. Although Pious had no issues with him, it was the peoples will that he be executed.

I highly doubt that those same people woud adopt Anno Domini.

The BC/AD is, in comparison, a modern way for us to differentiate between the two eras.

Anyway, some scholars believe that he was born a few years before AD, mainly because of how hard it is to date a event that supposedly occured two Milena ago. That, and the conflicting stories. Really. From the gospels, he could have been born anywhere from 18 BC to 7 AD

 

[Livewire]

Your forgetting something though, the fact that Christ was executed. Although Pious had no issues with him, it was the peoples will that he be executed.

I highly doubt that those same people woud adopt Anno Domini.

The BC/AD is, in comparison, a modern way for us to differentiate between the two eras.

Anyway, some scholars believe that he was born a few years before AD, mainly because of how hard it is to date a event that supposedly occured two Milena ago. That, and the conflicting stories. Really. From the gospels, he could have been born anywhere from 18 BC to 7 AD

The scholarly way (And the correct one too) is to measure the years in two eras - B.C.E., Before Common era, and C.E., Common Era. Jesus' birth is still the demarcation line between the two.

 

[Mr. X]

Although these words contradict each other, I was speaking of Religious Scholars.

 

[shnen]

I highly doubt that those same people woud adopt Anno Domini.

It wasn't just the Romans who spoke Latin. I'm sure you're aware that the Church was pretty much entirely Latin.



The AD and BC system were invented in 525, not now. Granted there's a margin for error, but this decreases it a fair amount.

Anyway, whenever it was you are still incorrect in stating that Christianity existed as a major religion prior to AD, even if he was born in 18 BC.

 

[Mr. X]

I never said major religion, I said existed before.

 

[shnen]

according to Wikipedia Christianity began as a Jewish sect in the mid 1st century, and the oldest data of birth assumed by scholars is 7 BC. As far as I know he was not worshipped at the age of seven.

It's possible that it existed in BC, but both unlikely and unproven so stating it as a fact with such authority as you did is still not quite correct.

Anyway let's stop being pedants as this is irrelevant to the point at hand and is derailing the thread slightly.

 

[Phantom1]

*reads previous posts*

Did no one read my very lengthy, and very in depth, posts? The post in which I already said everything that was repeated after me? No? Dammit.

Please read, I answer many questions in those two posts.

according to Wikipedia Christianity began as a Jewish sect in the mid 1st century, and the oldest data of birth assumed by scholars is 7 BC. As far as I know he was not worshipped at the age of seven.

It's possible that it existed in BC, but both unlikely and unproven so stating it as a fact with such authority as you did is still not quite correct.

Anyway let's stop being pedants as this is irrelevant to the point at hand and is derailing the thread slightly.

Actually some scholars/historians believe it to be in between years 6-4 BC.

It is logically impossible for the religion that is Christianity to have existed in the BC era. In fact the religion was indeed a Jewish sect years before it became an established religion; and even among the Jews it was pretty much despised. It was followed, in these early years, by years of persecution and harsh punishments. (Including a certain bat crazy Roman Emperor blaming a certain fire on them...) It wasn't until the late 300's that it was even accepted by the Romans.

Actually... it doesn't derail, and is building upon the topic.

 

[TRIFORCE89]

Your forgetting something though, the fact that Christ was executed. Although Pious had no issues with him, it was the peoples will that he be executed.

I highly doubt that those same people woud adopt Anno Domini.

The BC/AD is, in comparison, a modern way for us to differentiate between the two eras.

Anyway, some scholars believe that he was born a few years before AD, mainly because of how hard it is to date a event that supposedly occured two Milena ago. That, and the conflicting stories. Really. From the gospels, he could have been born anywhere from 18 BC to 7 AD

That's where BCE and CE come in. To avoid that potential discrepancy (among other things).

Regardless, yes it is a modern concept. I don't think Jesus was born and then all the people decided they were suddenly now in year 0 XD Christianity didn't exactly kick off immediately

 

[Frostweaver]

Or really, though the original idea of BC/AD revolves around the time of Christ, now it's a distinction of time period based on usage and tradition. It just so happens that we got so used to this particular concept of time that "fixing the initial mistake" (be it fixing the accurate date of Jesus's birth, or for any non-Christians/believers: erasing something that never existed in history) that making a new year-dating system costs too much and takes too much effort anyway.

 

[Livewire]

What makes "God" anymore real than Zeus,or Odin,or any other mythological god?

It's something that's always bothered me...people will stand there preaching "God" and then turn around and say that Zeus,Posiden,Hades, (I'm using greek mythos as it's by far one of the most popular) were just made up by people that didn't understand things like weather,the sun and moon,or natural events.
If that's the case then your arguement that "God" is real becomes invalid because who's to say that they weren't made up as well?

I was just curious to see what some of you think about this,i'm not trying to be disrespectful,or say that there is no god(s) at all,it just bothers me that some culture are treated in such a detached way.

Right then,discuss!

P.s. To Razor Leaf:
But,but,it was only fork under the ---... D:

Well we know that almost every culture, past and present, has a mythology of some kind. And isn't it eerie that many of the Gods' descriptions and traits mirror each other? Odin and Zeus in particular. Perhaps they're two incarnations of the same deity.