I already told you my blaziken's moves don't have to liek yours to be good. Sceptile can't learn Substitute from what I've played, and I've already used teh FOcus Punch tm, so I can't exactly find out if Sceptile can use it or not. He knows dragon claw because the the biggest problemt I faced was a kingdra. Icebeaming swampert didn't quite work, and Rayquaza was at too much of a risk fighting it, so I put dragon claw on Sceptile. I worked hard to get that tm, seeing as I had already used the other one. Swampert knows muddy water because it's just like surf but it might reduce accuracy at teh same time, mkaing it better than surf. It's the fact that surf is needed for getting around that I keep them both. ice beam is to handle the dragon annoyance that I find in Rayquaza. For the longest time he was a major threat because not enough pokemon knew dragon killing moves. Although I agree that I may have a bit too many electric moves on manectric and taht crunch would work well. The thing is, quick attack is kinda weak. Crunch would work better. And return is rather powerful if used by a loyal pokemon. So the thing I will do, if I can figure out how, is replace shockwave wtih Crunch. Thunder is there for helping to deal with kyogre or any other pokemon during a rain storm. Thunderbolt is a poewrfuil electric attack that makes due while it's not raining. They stay. And I just checked with teh move tutor and I checked my tms. Manectrifc cannot learn crunch.Now groudon. Sorry,but bulk up just won't do. Seeing as he's a legendary, his stats are naturally much higher than any other nonlegendary pokemon and doesn't reallyneed a boost. I don't see the poitn in waisting a space and a turn pumping someone who's already plenty strong. make full use of every turn you have. Fire blast is very powerful and will work well once Groudon's hp gets too low for Explosion to matter much. Solarbeam. Powerful, and immediate thanks to Drought. it stays.
Rayquaza doesn't need any fire moves, since Groudon and BLaziken have that covered. Fly is there for field purproses, not for battle use. Dragonclaw stays and Icebeam stays. I'll consider replacing outrage with thunderbolt, since I've known manectric to be taken down by a Kyogre before he could launch an attack. I am actually training another Manectric with the ability Static to replace it,hopefully with a greater special defense.
I'm not ruling out everything, I'm jsut saying my team is pretty god as it is. I'll go buy a Thunderbolt tm and put it on Rayquaza. Once all th modifications are donw,. I'll repost.
frostweaver said:
Solarbeam is HARD to use on Groudon... usually terrible because it's a sure indicator that...
a) the trainer sucks beyond believe
b) a hard hard fight is about to come
Bob V is right though... for competitive battling, this team goes down FAST. The only way this team can win is by brutal high stats for Groudon and Rayquaza... of course HP Icing Jolts will put greatly scar them for life. Please refer to the advanced trainer's guide to see what common new trainer mistakes this team commits.
You couldn't be anymore wrong. My team is powerful without Rayquaza and Groudon. I've fought plenty of trainers with high level pokemon. none of which I had to use Rayquaza on or Groudon on. They fell to Sceptile or Blaziken or mostly Swampert. But never Groudon or Rayquaza. I never had to use them. My team has never gone down period, much less fast. And I am not a common, new trainer. teh common new trainer does not ahve a gold trainer card.Solarbeam is easier on Groudon than anyone else, since he has Drought. And this is the way I see a solarbeaming groudon.
A.) Groudon has nearly all teh bases covered thanks to solarbeam.
B.) It's going to be a short fight because they don't really ahve anything he can't handle.
I'll take a look at this so called trainer's guide, but all i expect to see is obvious mistakes no one makes or fake mistakes like the ones you claim I make.
edit: Took a look. Wasn't impressed. Don't need stallers, I take down everything rather fast. when I find a trainer who actually can draw out a battle or has something very strong, then I might stall. But until then, I have no use for them. I've no use for a psuedo hazer because frankly , like I said, I take them down too fast. They don't get a chance to do much to there stats. Everything else I pretty much ahve. Icebeamer, oobers, stabbers, etc. I honestly haven't seen much reason to modify. i win every time now.
Alright, I'm getting tired of people mocking my team and bashing it like it isn't anything to worry about. NOw you make think it ain't taht gret, but until someon actually BEATS it, i have absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe you. And if you think me offensive, then think about how you would be if someone mocked your pride and joy.
this is like my fourth edit. ALright, I really don't want to, but I will do some modifiying on Blaziken. i even looked at the moves you suggested. ( Although Flamthrower will stay regardless.) Brick break is staying, but the other two are open. If you can tell me where to get rock slide i'll give it a try.
