My Platinum Team

[Antarid]

Introduction​

I wasn't battling from a long time because I was sick of my Diamond. But now because of Platinum, I'm onto battling.​

Team Overview​

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Team Detailed​

Swampert @ Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA
Ability: Torrent
~Ice Beam
~Toxic / Roar
~Stealth Rock
~Earthquake

Taking the lead with Stealth Rock Usual combo. EQ on ScarfTran. Ice Beam for coverage. Either Toxic to wear own bulky waters who like to switch in or roar for shuffling sr around.

Gengar @ Expert Belt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 6 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Ability: Levitate
~Shadow Ball
~Hidden Power (Fire)
~Focus Blast
~Will-O-Wisp​

This is a classic Gengar moveset used to give the opponents a great start with Will-O-Wisp on Physical Sweepers. Hidden Power on Metagross, Bronzong and Jirachi. Focus Blast on pesky darks like Crawdaunt, Sharpedo.​

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 Spe
Ability: Intimidate
~Earthquake
~AquaTail
~Dragon Dance
~Ice Fang​

I used Ice Fang over Stone Edge on this set because of annoying Breloom and Tangrowth. AquaTail over Waterfall because of more damage. This has troubles with SpeedElectivire. In a situation, I will change to Gengar. If its out, I'll take it out with Earthquake. Takes advantage of poisoned waters.​

Salamence @ LifeOrb
Nature: Rash
EVs: 86 Atk / 214 SpA / 210 Spe
Ability: Intimidate
~Draco Meteor
~Brick Break
~Heat Wave
~Roost​

I chose Heat Wave over Fire Blast for accuracy problems. The damage taken by LifeOrb can be recovered by Roost. Draco Meteor can help in taking out many tough pokemon. Brick Break on T-Tars and Blisseys.​

Infernape @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Naive
EVs: 80 Atk / 238 SpA / 192 Spe
Ability: Blaze
~Close Combat
~Hidden Power (Ice)
~Overheat
~Thunder Punch​

Close Combat and Thunder Punch can help in 2-OHKOing Milotic and Vaporeon and taking on tough pokemon. Thunder Punch or birds and dealing 90% on an Minimum on Gyarados, and Overheat on Scizor and Metagross. This is so I can revenge kill things like Mence, Gyarados and Tyranitar.​

Lucario @ Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~Close Combat
~ExtremeSpeed
~Swords Dance
~Crunch​

Close Combat and ExtremeSpeed combo. Crunch on Cresselia, Dusknoir, Celebi, Rotom and Swords dance for late game.​

Damage Calculations for Lucario after Swords Dance.

Close Combat vs. max HP / Def Skarmory 84.4% - 99.7%
Close Combat vs. max HP / Def Bronzong: 95.2% - 100% (67% chance to OHKO)
Close Combat vs. max HP / Def Hippowdon: 75.7% - 89.3%
Close Combat vs. max HP / Def Forretress: 79.7% - 93.8%
Close Combat vs. max HP / Def Donphan: 82.0% - 96.9%
Crunch vs. max HP / Def Cresselia: 63.5% - 74.8%
Crunch vs. max HP Cresselia: 85.1% - 100% (2.6% chance to OHKO)
Crunch vs. max HP / Def Dusknoir: 88.4% - 100% (21% chance to OHKO)
Crunch vs. max HP / Def Celebi: 78.7% - 93.1%
Crunch vs. max HP / Def Rotom - Appliance: 100%

(taken from Smogon.com)

Conclusion​

Well, this concludes it. I'm planning of a Psychic over Gengar (maybe Cress, Azelf, Gallade). Need help on that part.​

 

[Dark Azelf]

Tangrowth : -

Tangrowth is dead weight, i can tell you that now, it does nothing for you. Put something that can actually lead and set up SR >> it. Swampert would be awesome because : -

• You are Scarf tran weak. 2HKO's everything here with SR up.
• Your team cant take thunderwaves, period.

Standard Mixpert with SR/Ice Beam/Roar or Toxic/Earthquake would be pretty neat. Toxic might be prefered, since for some reason it lures in things like vappy and other bulky waters etc so yeah and crippling it/them would help Gyarados/Ape immensly.

Lucario : -

Switch Lucario to a SD LO set and dont lead with it. Stone Edge or Crunch >> Counter @ Life Orb.

Salamence : -

Salmence wants Rash so it can switch into fighting types and check them better and Brick Break >> Earthquake so you can OHKO Tar and 2HKO Bliss, Tran and Lax etc. Blissey being the main target obv. Earthquake kinda sucks on mixmence. =/

Gyarados : -

Gyarados wants dragon dance and if not, slap a choice band on your current set or its kinda useless. CB Gyarados is actually pretty nifty and ive had a bit of success with it in the past, some people hate it but i like it oh well.

Infernape : -

Infernape wants Scarfing to serve as insurance vs alot of sweepers who currently eat you. ( DD Mence, DD Gyarados, DD Tar etc)

(M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 80 Atk/192 Spd/238 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Overheat
- Hidden Power Ice
- Thunderpunch
- Close Combat

Is the set i use. ThunderPunch does 90% min to most Gyarados. ^^

Gengar : -

@ Life Orb / Expert Belt
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk /252 Spd/6 Def
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Will-o-Wisp / Protect

>> your current set.

Why ?

• Gengar without Hidden Power Fire is sad these days. Basically it gives a free switch in to too many things. Metagross, Bronzong, Scizor, Jirachi amongst various others.
• As for the last slot, this is to avoid/deal with Choice Pursuit's. Will-o-Wisp cripples pretty much all Pursuit users who want to come in and still lets you spread status if you want that, along with crippling other Physical sweepers. I find its more effective but takes more prediction than Protect obv. Whilst on the other hand Protect just gives you a heads up for what they are going to do. For example a scenario, if a Scizor switches into you. Firstly Protect, if it Pursuits stay in to HP Fire and if it Bullet Punches switch. So you basically win either way.

Just some thoughts here.

 

[Antarid]

DA, I already have a water pokemon, Gyarados. So if I put Swamp, I will have 2 water pokemon. What shall I do.


PS::Im going for vacation today.

 

[Dark Azelf]

DA, I already have a water pokemon, Gyarados. So if I put Swamp, I will have 2 water pokemon. What shall I do.


PS::Im going for vacation today.

And....?


They both have different weaks, so it wont matter in the slightest.

 

[Antarid]

Well, hows it now? On Gengar I put Fire Punch instead of HP. Hypnosis over WOW

 

[altaria221]

UMMM fire punch on gengar is not going to do a lot to Metagross, jirachi and such thanks to the special/physical split, use wil-o-wisp, it can cripple physical sweepers beyond help

Also, 3HKO on Milotic and Vaporeon, by the time it would take for you to deal that damage, infernape would be knocked out due to stat drops and their surfs

 

[Antarid]

Hows Gengar and Infernape now?

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

I don't understand the presence of Dragon Dance on LODos, to insert a classical BulkyGyara to his place.

 

[Antarid]

DA, Why does Choice Scarf help? It allows only one move. We keep hitting Overheat snd they will change to a water...............I know it multiplies Spe, but we can use something else......... And why does Swords Dance help. It wastes a move. We go on a garchomp, start with SD it hits with EQ OHKO or 2HKO......................

 

[Dark Azelf]

DA, Why does Choice Scarf help? It allows only one move. We keep hitting Overheat snd they will change to a water...............I know it multiplies Spe, but we can use something else......... And why does Swords Dance help. It wastes a move. We go on a garchomp, start with SD it hits with EQ OHKO or 2HKO......................

Yeah none of that made sense and/or didnt have logic behind it.

Why would you SD on a Garchomp (who is uber anyway)? You SD on something that will switch out of you like a Blissey or Tyranitar and then you can pull off a sweep. I take it you have never used/seen an SD Luke ? The power it holds after a Swords Dance is scary.

And basically scarf is good for the reason you mentioned, speed. Say for example a salamence, tyranitar or Gyarados gets in a dragon dance. What now sport ? You lose. Not with a scarf you dont, you outspeed them even after they boost their speed since you are faster. By doing so you keep them all in check something which you fail to do without the scarf. Also why in the world would you keep overheating a water type, that is beyond retarded, the term "switch out" and "predict" comes to mind. :/

 

[Antarid]

1)Infernape:
Ok, but then why HP on Infenape. Hows Grass Knot. On Ground.
2)Swampert:
We can use EQ for coverage over Ice Beam and take both Toxic and Roar. StealthRoar.

3)(PS: And 'bout the Psychic I mentioned, is Gengar good or will I haf to change?)
4)And a doubt too, how to give the specific HP to a pokemon. I need HP Fire on Gar, so how do I do it?

(New Edit:)

5)I'm planning of SD Blaziken over Infernape.
6)for 3) I'm planning Cress,
Moonlight
Psychic
Ice Beam
T-Wave
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD

Please tell me ur opinion on these.......................

 

[Antarid]

I'm planning on a whole new team,
Swampert or (Toxic Spiking Skarmory) or (Spore Punching Breloom)
Cresselia
Gyarados
Salamence
Blaziken
Lucario

 

[Charizarzd_666]

You were talking about having a Gallade, this is how I build mine :
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Night Slash
- Will-o-Wisp
Item Attached: Expert Belt / Life Orb / Leftovers
EVs and Nature:
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Atk / 20 SDef
Adamant Nature

will-o-wisp to cover is defense weakness of course and is move pool can cover a bunch of situation but you can teach him leaf blade with a heart scale if you want instead of night slash but you can't cover is ghost weakness

 

[Antarid]

Thnx but I'm thinking of Cress more, over Gallade.

 

[Jake♫]

1)Infernape:
Ok, but then why HP on Infenape. Hows Grass Knot. On Ground.
2)Swampert:
We can use EQ for coverage over Ice Beam and take both Toxic and Roar. StealthRoar.

3)(PS: And 'bout the Psychic I mentioned, is Gengar good or will I haf to change?)
4)And a doubt too, how to give the specific HP to a pokemon. I need HP Fire on Gar, so how do I do it?

(New Edit:)

5)I'm planning of SD Blaziken over Infernape.
6)for 3) I'm planning Cress,
Moonlight
Psychic
Ice Beam
T-Wave
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD

Please tell me ur opinion on these.......................

1. With HP Ice, you can revenge kill dragons (Most notably Salamence) after Dragon Dance and outspeed it. Otherwise, it runs over your entire team. Grass Knot on ScarfApe is eww.

2. Toxic and Roar really serve the same purpose: To force switches. Just use Roar, as it will guarantee the switch, causing more residual SR damage. A Swampert without Earthquake is lol anyways.

3. Gengar is fine

4. You breed it for the correct IVs. Just google IV Breeding guides (sorry, I'm in a hurry, can't get one right now :P)

5. Blaziken is an inferior Infernape. It's base stats are mostly lower, and it has an inferior movepool. Use what you have, as you NEED it.

6. LOL Cress. It fails. Gengar is FINE.

 

[Joltz]

This team is really good. :) There is one problem I see though. Infernape. I would have a different EV spread. Personally
I would have this:

Infernape @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 160 Atk / 158 SpA / 192 Spe
Ability: Blaze
~Close Combat
~Hidden Power (Ice)
~Overheat
~Thunder Punch

The moveset remains the same but have a hasty nature because of scarf. As you can see. I have removed 80 evs in Sp.Atk. And added them to Atk since Infernape naturally does better physically. Hope I helped. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) Smilies rule... :)​