NB Team (yeah.. yeah.. rate)

[n3croart]

My team needs a few tweaks so give me the best rates you know. Also, don't bag my team, you may be a pro but guess what? I'm not. Maybe suggest some other pokemon to fix up my team. I suck at EVs. (Remember, NetBattle doesn't have Diamond & Pearl pokemon, don't suggest new pokemon and moves, I'm not using Shoddy Battle yet.)

Team Complete! If you have any comments, please post. ;)

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Recover
- Swords Dance

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 156 Def / 100 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 108 HP / 216 Spd / 184 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Steelix (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Roar
- Rock Slide

 

[Anti]

My team needs a few tweaks so give me the best rates you know. Also, don't bag my team, you may be a pro but guess what? I'm not. Maybe suggest some other pokemon to fix up my team. I suck at EVs. (Remember, NetBattle doesn't have Diamond & Pearl pokemon, don't suggest new pokemon and moves, I'm not using Shoddy Battle yet.)

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry/Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Good start. Jolly over adamant maybe, but it's fine. I'd give it guts, though it's up to you

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Defense / 6 Special Defense
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Again, looks great. Fixed the EVs for ya. That EV spread is the best, trust me. Moveset is a-okay.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Fatty-Poomba
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Defense / 126 Attack
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Return

Standard Curselax. Works very well. Pretty simple, use curse a few times and punish the foe! Since you already have bliss as your sp. wall, I meesed with Curselax's EVs a bit.

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / the rest in Defense/HP and speed...can't give exact numbers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Agility

Agiligross at its finest. Pretty easy to use...not much more to say here.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Destiny bond
- Ice Punch
- Wiil-o-Wisp/Hypnosis/Haze/HP special
- Thunderbolt

Gengar has 65 base attack...not good. Use special attacks and status moves only on Gar. Lots of choices, some I didn't even mention. Choices choices choices!

Entei @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- HP physical
- Iron Tail
- Roar
- Return

You've chosen Entei, possibly the worst legendary ever...EVER. It's movepool is the size of Vatican City (very small) and I just don't recommend it. If you have to use Iron tail, something's not right. Replacing it is in your best interest. I'll post a set though...

Overall it's a good team. No glaring weaknesses...nice job!

 

[Azonic]

Is this 3rd gen or 4th gen?

 

[Anti]

Is this 3rd gen or 4th gen?

He said it right there in the first post...It's 3rd gen though. You can tell by the movesets.

 

[n3croart]

Okay, thanks. Since you said Entei is possibly the worst legendary, could you suggest a poke to replace it?

 

[Anti]

Since you don't really have a physical wall, sure. S-T-E-E-L-I-X! Its monster defense is matched only by regirock and shuckle. Geodude can get it EQ and Explosion as egg moves. USe those as well as roar and rest/toxic and you're set. Forretress and Skarm are good options as well.

 

[Sora_8920]

Timid Gengar,

Entei @:Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Adamant Nature (You already have it, so don't worry).
Flamethrower/Fire Blast
Return
Substitute
Double-Edge/Rest

Blissey: Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Bold Nature
Ice Beam
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave/Counter/Seismic Toss/Thunderbolt.

 

[n3croart]

Hmm... also i've been told entei is quite good. Is that true?

 

[m3t41]

My team needs a few tweaks so give me the best rates you know. Also, don't bag my team, you may be a pro but guess what? I'm not. Maybe suggest some other pokemon to fix up my team. I suck at EVs. (Remember, NetBattle doesn't have Diamond & Pearl pokemon, don't suggest new pokemon and moves, I'm not using Shoddy Battle yet.)

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

CB over salac

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Atk / 24 Def / 100 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Snorlax and blissey dont work well together. replace one of them. if your keeping bliss then the set is alright (i like ice beam better than thunder wave), though evs are a bit wtf and nature should be bold (if ya using ice beam).

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Fatty-Poomba
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk

if your keeping snorlax then use curselax set.

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rock Slide
- Thunderpunch

a hoi hoi, you said it wasn't dp right? then no thunderpunch. needs more meteor mash.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 91 Def / 160 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Brick Break
- Ice Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

focus punch over brick break and sub over shadow ball/ice punch.

Entei @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Flamethrower
- Iron Tail
- Substitute
- Toxic

hmm tough one. i would imagine sunny day to be useful over here but idk tbh. fire blast over flamethrower. moltres is always better than this.

lacks physical defence but a solid team overall. evs are a bit wack though.

 

[n3croart]

Thank you all for feedback. Futue, this doesn't really tell me much about what moves I should replace and about the Entei. Anyways .. thanks guys! :)

 

[m3t41]

yeah cant help you much with entei.

 

[n3croart]

I have modified my team using your suggestions/opinions. Rate as best as you can please.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Fatty-Poomba
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 126 Atk / 132 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Return

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rock Slide
- Meteor Mash

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Satk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

Entei @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power (Fighting)
- Iron Tail
- Roar
- Return

 

[Ayano Katagiri]

For Entei, what about a sunnybeamer? Or are you going for physical?

Entei @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Modest Nature (+SAtk ,-Atk)
- Solarbeam
- Sunny Day
- Calm Mind
- Flamethrower

I don't know about EV spreads for this though...

 

[Iceman3k]

If you still decide to use Entei, you should use him in the following way:

Entei @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 132 HP / 80 Def / 220 Spd / 76 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power (Grass)
- Substitute
Entei gets one thing the other legends don't get. 404 Subs against Blissey. Scores you a free CM, and a chance at actually sweeping the opponent's team. But since Salamence and a few selected Ground Types wall it, it's no wonder why Entei is hardly used.

 

[Azonic]

Entei@Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK/ 252 SPEED/4HP

Overheat
HP Fighting
Substitute
Double Edge

First shot at Entei

 

[n3croart]

Thanks guys. Also, do you have any suggestions about the modified team? Or is it just Entei?

 

[Anti]

It's just Entei...really, it's the worst legend you can get...but about the modifies team, agaility and thunderpunch over explosion and Rock Slide...and hypnosis on Gar.

 

[Lumine]

For Gengar try


Gengar (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Satk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Substitute
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb

works well for me

 

[Anti]

For Gengar try


Gengar (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Satk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Substitute
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb

works well for me

Sludge Bomb is a no-no, only covers one type, grass. Put Hypnosis instead of sub with the wide glasses. T-bolt over Sludge Bomb. Now it covers many types, and can "boltbeam" when you add HP ice if you'd like. I prefer Focus Blast, Hyp., Tbolt, and Shad. Ball. Works very well.

EDIT: I feel this needs to be brought up: I am a member of pe2k, but I found lugialord on pe2k posting his team:

"My team needs a few tweaks so give me the best rates you know. Also, don't bag my team, you may be a pro but guess what? I'm not. Maybe suggest some other pokemon to fix up my team. I suck at EVs. (Remember, NetBattle doesn't have Diamond & Pearl pokemon, don't suggest new pokemon and moves, I'm not using Shoddy Battle yet.)

*insert team here*

I also use Pkmncommunity so I copied my team (not using their suggestions) so I could get your suggestions/opinions about this team. No flaming."

Uh, then why post? At least tell us you're not taking our suggestions. BTW, most of our suggestions are correct, but, whatever. I'll make sure to leave a reply, you'll know who I am, quickly. Really, couldn't you have at least told us? No physical wall is never good. And, 252 sp. att. EVs on a physical Metagross? Uh, okay. If I were a mod this would be locked. Really, all is forgiven if you just tell me why...because tomorrow is my last day of summer and I'm not wasting it responding to people who don't need the help. Sorry for going bananas, but this doesn't make sense...

 

[m3t41]

lumine, focus blast is only in dp :S

he did say nb you know