Need help with my team!

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    I'm having trouble finding three more pokemon that'll fit well into a new team I'm breeding:

    [PokeCommunity.com] Need help with my team!

    @Leftovers/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SpAtk/252 Spd/4 HP
    ~Hex
    ~Will-O-Wisp
    ~Flamethrower/Heat Wave
    ~Energy Ball/Confuse Ray


    [PokeCommunity.com] Need help with my team!

    @ Lucarionite
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EVs: 252 SpAtk/176 Spd/72 HP
    /8 SpD
    ~ Nasty Plot
    ~ Aura Sphere
    ~ Flash Cannon
    ~ Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse


    [PokeCommunity.com] Need help with my team!

    @Leftovers/Life Orb
    Nature: Modest/Bold
    (No moveset figured yet)

    Pokemon I'm considering for the next 3 slots: Gyarados, Abomasnow, Mamoswine, Dragonite, Salamence, Aggron, Scizor, T-Tar, Cradily. Though I'm open to any advice.

    Thank you in advance :)
     
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    Abomasnow could work well in that team to start. It can cover dragons and several other types. The only problem is the 4x weakness to fire, so you might need a fast Mon to quickly take out someone who has a strong fire move. Greninja could do the job, and possibly Gyarados too. Hope this helps!
     
    An ideal moveset for your Sylveon should be around these lines:

    Ability: Pixilate

    Hyper Voice, and maybe you move around Wish/Heal Bell support.

    In case you didn't know, Pixilate will make Hyper Voice Fairy-Type, as well as giving it a 30% boost. Now I don't know myself if the 30% boost is in addition to STAB, but I'm pretty sure it is.
     
    Chandelure is...okay in OU, but it has better moves to run than Will-o-Wisp + Hex:
    -Fire Blast
    -Shadow Ball
    -Energy Ball
    -Trick/Memento/Hidden Power (Ground)
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf/Choice Specs
    Ability: Flash Fire/Infiltrator

    or
    -Substitute
    -Pain Split
    -Fire Blast
    -Shadow Ball
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    Mega Lucario should just use max Special Attack/max Speed. What does it outspeed with your current EV spread? What KOs does it avoid?

    Here are possible Sylveon sets for you:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Hyper Voice
    -Heal Bell/Calm Mind
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/244 Def/12 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Pixilate

    or
    -Hyper Voice
    -Psyshock
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power (Ground)/Echoed Voice
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Pixilate

    Since Lucario is taking up the Mega slot, Aggron is out of the equation. Scizor and Tyranitar can still function without their Mega forms.

    @willswilly: I highly doubt Abomasnow's effectiveness on this team. Snow Warning got nerfed and its Hail will hinder the rest of the team. However, I can vouch for Gyarados and Mamoswine for team spots:

    Gyarados:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Bounce/Ice Fang
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

    or
    -Substitute/Taunt
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Bounce
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 88 HP/192 Atk/4 Def/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Waterfall
    -Roar/Dragon Tail
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    Mamoswine:
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Shard
    -Icicle Crash/Ice Shard
    -Stealth Rock/Superpower
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Thick Fat

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Shard
    -Endeavor
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash
    Ability: Thick Fat

    Take note that Gyarados is weak to Stealth Rock, so Rapid Spin/Defog support may be necessary:
    Starmie:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Thunderbolt/Psyshock
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    Excadrill:
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide/Iron Head
    -Rapid Spin
    -Swords Dance/Stealth Rock
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Air Balloon/Chople Berry
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    or
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head
    -Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 120 HP/136 Atk/252 SDef (Adamant) or 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe (Jolly)
    Item: Assault Vest (Adamant)/Choice Scarf (Jolly)
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    Mandibuzz:
    -Foul Play
    -Roost
    -Defog
    -Toxic/Whirlwind/Knock Off
    Nature: Bold/Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Overcoat

    Crobat:
    -Brave Bird
    -Defog
    -Roost
    -Taunt/Toxic
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 168 HP/136 Atk/4 SDef/200 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Infiltrator

    Tentacruel:
    -Scald
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Rapid Spin
    -Toxic/Knock Off
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/224 Def/32 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Liquid Ooze
     
    Thanks for all the suggestions!

    I definitely want Stealth Rock and Knock Off support, so Mamoswine is an option. Ive also been excited to try Gyarados, he looks so fun. Im guessing its better to run Pixilate/Hyper Voice on Sylveon than Moonblast, then?
     
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    Yes if you can run Hyper Voice and Pixilate over Moonblast. If you're playing on a simulator there should be no problems. If you're playing on cartridge it will be harder to get.

    Pixilate boosts Hyper Voice to 117 BP then you get STAB. Moonblast is only 90BP. If you can't get a Hidden Ability Eevee with Hyper Voice and a competitive IV spread I would use Moonblast with Cute Charm. Pixilate doesn't give any benefit if you aren't using a Normal Type move.
     
    Bump. I just need a little more. In addition to these:

    I'm having trouble finding three more pokemon that'll fit well into a new team I'm breeding:

    [PokeCommunity.com] Need help with my team!

    @Leftovers/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SpAtk/252 Spd/4 HP
    ~Hex
    ~Will-O-Wisp
    ~Flamethrower/Heat Wave
    ~Energy Ball/Confuse Ray


    [PokeCommunity.com] Need help with my team!

    @ Lucarionite
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EVs: 252 SpAtk/176 Spd/72 HP
    /8 SpD
    ~ Nasty Plot
    ~ Aura Sphere
    ~ Flash Cannon
    ~ Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse


    [PokeCommunity.com] Need help with my team!

    @Leftovers/Life Orb
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Cute Charm
    EVs: 252 HP/200 SpA/50 SpDef
    ~Wish
    ~Protect
    ~Moonblast
    ~Shadow Ball

    I now have

    Mamoswine @ Focus Sash
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd
    ~Stealth Rock
    ~Ice Shard
    ~Icicle Crash
    ~Earthquake


    [A Pokemon with Knock Off that isn't Scrafty]

    And finally for the last slot, I'm considering either a Gyarados or Salamence. Either Initimidate or Moxie either, all I know is that I want whichever I choose to have DD.
     
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    Gyarados is the slightly better option over Salamence. Fairies give Mence too much trouble nowadays. 'Sides, Water's often a good type to have.

    -Gyarados w/Life Orb
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    Ability: Moxie
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Waterfall, Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Stone Edge/Ice Fang

    or

    -Gyarados w/Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 88 HP, 192 Attack, 4 Defense, 224 Speed OR 156 HP, 72 Atttack, 96 Defense, 180 Sp.Defense, 4 Speed
    Moves: Waterfall, Dragon Dance, Bounce, Taunt/Substitute

    Also, your Sylveon appears to be trying to do a combination of the sets Platinum posted. Don't do that; trying to do both makes it less effective at either job.
     
    Gyarados is the slightly better option over Salamence. Fairies give Mence too much trouble nowadays. 'Sides, Water's often a good type to have.

    -Gyarados w/Life Orb
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    Ability: Moxie
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Waterfall, Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Stone Edge/Ice Fang

    or

    -Gyarados w/Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 88 HP, 192 Attack, 4 Defense, 224 Speed OR 156 HP, 72 Atttack, 96 Defense, 180 Sp.Defense, 4 Speed
    Moves: Waterfall, Dragon Dance, Bounce, Taunt/Substitute

    Also, your Sylveon appears to be trying to do a combination of the sets Platinum posted. Don't do that; trying to do both makes it less effective at either job.
    To add to what Zekrom said, refer to the above Chandelure sets for much better alternatives.
     
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