Fellvoid
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Hello!
[I tend to explain my self extensively, so a TLDR can be found a bit lower, sorry in advance]
I've been playing the PkMn TCG for a while, on the side, but I generally come from a background of semi-competitive YGO, which makes my understanding of the PKMN game a bit limited. In the sense that I don't grasp some things yet, as the mechanics are quite different.
Either way, since YGO is now ruined IMO, and since I have friends who play PkMn, I decided to try and switch over. However, my friends tell me that, simply put, I can't play a deck I like (meaning - containing Pokemon I like), because it wouldn't be fast enough, which means that I'd have basically no chance of winning at locals, let alone a bigger event. Is that true though?
For me, to play a TCG, I have to like my cards. I've grown up with Pokemon, so I have my favorites, naturally turning to them for my deck ideas. I'm aiming for Standard, because no one plays Expanded/Legacy formats in my area. Thus, I want to base my deck around Pokemon that I like, instead of a theme I like, because in this game I only know what I dislike (Burn, Stall, etc). I've searched over the current sets and I have found only two options that I like - Charizard and Houndoom (who is my all-time fav, however the play style isn't really to my liking).
:TLDR: (Noob player, aiming for Standard, wants to play something he likes, asks advice from more experienced active players!) :TLDR:
I really want to make a Charizard deck, but people tell me it's pointless, since the only available reprints are slow and arent worth the Energy costs. My original plan was to bash Houndoom and Charizard together, but after thinking on it, I realize that this might be completely pointless, but I can't be sure. This is a current iteration of what I would like my deck to look like:
Pokemon - 21
Trainer Cards - 24 (Tinkering required)
Energy - 15
Total Cards - 60
And yes, I realize it's kind of terrible, but it's my third deck ever constructed in this TCG.
In retrospect, I realized that mashing cards with different play styles is frowned upon, but I have no way of knowing (by this I mean the Houndoom and Charizard mash).
Also, if you notice, my intention was to put Pokemon in there, that can serve as tech cards (YGO logic kicking in). But after playing the game online a bit, I think this is useless. Is it? I am referring to Ninetales EX and Rayquaza.
I also know that my Trainer card ratios are rather absurd, but I have no way of knowing better as of now.
My ultimate goal is to figure out how I can build a semi-competitive deck around Charizard. I have gone through both discarding the Evolution line and keeping the EX versions and the other way around, which sounds more absurd, but I really do need opinions and tips at this point. I've also gone the Volcanion + Charizard route, but it turns out too expensive at the moment. I would like some feedback on if this is even possible (and is it worth the trouble at all?) and if yes - some build tips would be extremely appreciated!
My budget is kind of restrained, meaning that I can't go full 4 copies of the EXs, for example. I'm going for a semi-budget deck, since I don't want to invest into something I'm not sure I'll get in to with time.
If you are asking why not just go for theme decks - I have a theme deck (the Lugia one) and I've tried several others online, but I enjoy none of them. Plus, the players in my area are a bit over Theme decks, so I can't rely on that choice. Plus, the ones that I am attracted to are no longer in rotation and convincing the Judge at locals to simply let me participate isn't worth the trouble... and the price of the Themed decks is a bit less than what I intend to spend in cards in general, so I see no point in doing that.
Thanks to anyone, in advance, for reading my wall of text and helping me out. I am super confused by the players around me, who have been playing for years and have opinions based on things like meta and competitive gameplay. Most YouTubers' guides I've watched say that you can basically make any deck and have it work, as long as it's not completely absurd. I'm going for enjoyment of the game first! But I'd like to win from time to time too. =] Again - thank you for your time!
[I tend to explain my self extensively, so a TLDR can be found a bit lower, sorry in advance]
I've been playing the PkMn TCG for a while, on the side, but I generally come from a background of semi-competitive YGO, which makes my understanding of the PKMN game a bit limited. In the sense that I don't grasp some things yet, as the mechanics are quite different.
Either way, since YGO is now ruined IMO, and since I have friends who play PkMn, I decided to try and switch over. However, my friends tell me that, simply put, I can't play a deck I like (meaning - containing Pokemon I like), because it wouldn't be fast enough, which means that I'd have basically no chance of winning at locals, let alone a bigger event. Is that true though?
For me, to play a TCG, I have to like my cards. I've grown up with Pokemon, so I have my favorites, naturally turning to them for my deck ideas. I'm aiming for Standard, because no one plays Expanded/Legacy formats in my area. Thus, I want to base my deck around Pokemon that I like, instead of a theme I like, because in this game I only know what I dislike (Burn, Stall, etc). I've searched over the current sets and I have found only two options that I like - Charizard and Houndoom (who is my all-time fav, however the play style isn't really to my liking).
:TLDR: (Noob player, aiming for Standard, wants to play something he likes, asks advice from more experienced active players!) :TLDR:
I really want to make a Charizard deck, but people tell me it's pointless, since the only available reprints are slow and arent worth the Energy costs. My original plan was to bash Houndoom and Charizard together, but after thinking on it, I realize that this might be completely pointless, but I can't be sure. This is a current iteration of what I would like my deck to look like:
Pokemon - 21
- * 2 Rayquaza GRI 106
- * 2 Charizard-EX FLF 12
- * 2 M Charizard-EX EVO 13
- * 3 Charmander EVO 9
- * 3 Charmeleon EVO 10
- * 3 Charizard EVO 11
- * 2 Houndoom-EX BKT 21
- * 2 M Houndoom-EX BKT 22
- * 1 Ninetales-EX GEN 13
- * 1 Hoopa-EX PR-XY XY71
Trainer Cards - 24 (Tinkering required)
- * 2 Charizard Spirit Link EVO 75
- * 4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
- * 2 Professor's Letter BKT 146
- * 2 Super Rod BKT 149
- * 2 N NVI 92
- * 2 Lysandre FLF 90
- * 2 Wally ROS 94
- * 2 Pokemon Fan Club FAC 107
- * 2 Ultra Ball FAC 113
- * 2 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99
- * 2 Pokemon Center Lady GEN 68
Energy - 15
- * 8 Fire Energy XYEnergy 4
- * 4 Burning Energy BKT 151
- * 3 Double Colorless Energy SUM 136
Total Cards - 60
And yes, I realize it's kind of terrible, but it's my third deck ever constructed in this TCG.
In retrospect, I realized that mashing cards with different play styles is frowned upon, but I have no way of knowing (by this I mean the Houndoom and Charizard mash).
Also, if you notice, my intention was to put Pokemon in there, that can serve as tech cards (YGO logic kicking in). But after playing the game online a bit, I think this is useless. Is it? I am referring to Ninetales EX and Rayquaza.
I also know that my Trainer card ratios are rather absurd, but I have no way of knowing better as of now.
My ultimate goal is to figure out how I can build a semi-competitive deck around Charizard. I have gone through both discarding the Evolution line and keeping the EX versions and the other way around, which sounds more absurd, but I really do need opinions and tips at this point. I've also gone the Volcanion + Charizard route, but it turns out too expensive at the moment. I would like some feedback on if this is even possible (and is it worth the trouble at all?) and if yes - some build tips would be extremely appreciated!
My budget is kind of restrained, meaning that I can't go full 4 copies of the EXs, for example. I'm going for a semi-budget deck, since I don't want to invest into something I'm not sure I'll get in to with time.
If you are asking why not just go for theme decks - I have a theme deck (the Lugia one) and I've tried several others online, but I enjoy none of them. Plus, the players in my area are a bit over Theme decks, so I can't rely on that choice. Plus, the ones that I am attracted to are no longer in rotation and convincing the Judge at locals to simply let me participate isn't worth the trouble... and the price of the Themed decks is a bit less than what I intend to spend in cards in general, so I see no point in doing that.
Thanks to anyone, in advance, for reading my wall of text and helping me out. I am super confused by the players around me, who have been playing for years and have opinions based on things like meta and competitive gameplay. Most YouTubers' guides I've watched say that you can basically make any deck and have it work, as long as it's not completely absurd. I'm going for enjoyment of the game first! But I'd like to win from time to time too. =] Again - thank you for your time!