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    Hi, I am new to netbattle...and well is suck at it...lol...yeah..I was wondering if you guys could help me out with my team...i use ubers...since i cant have many of them in the game i take advantge...so heres my team...

    ALL level 100

    Metagross@ChoiceBand
    Adamant
    252 HP, 184 Speed, 74 Defense.
    Earthquake
    Explosion
    Meteor Mash
    SHadow Ball


    Jirachi@Leftovers
    Bold
    252 HP, 194 defense, 40 Special Attack, 20, speed
    Calm Mind
    Psycic
    Thunderbolt
    WIsh

    Latias@Soul Dew
    Timid
    252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 6 HP.
    Calm Mind
    Dragon Claw
    Ice Beam
    Recover

    Latios@Soul Dew
    Modest
    252 Special Attack, 204 Speed, 54 Defense.
    Calm Mind
    Dragon Claw
    Thunderbolt
    Recover

    Ho-oh@Leftovers
    Timid
    42 Hp, 240 Special Attcak, 228 Speed.
    Calm Mind
    Sacred Fire
    Thunderbolt
    Recover

    Weezing@Leftovers
    Hardy
    196 HP, 62 Attack , 252 Special Defense.
    Haze
    Pain Split
    Sludge Bomb
    Will-O-Wissp


    I am thinking of removing Ho-oh and puting in this Blastoise

    Blastoise@Leftovers
    Bold
    212 HP / 196 Def / 102 SAtk
    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Rapid Spin
    Haze


    Thank You! Feel free to change pokes and tell me wat you think!!! Please Post the specific Evs if you post "wat ever you want" i dont know the answer...i am not good at that...

    Plz help thankyou!!!
     
    You can also use File <---- Export to text to save lots of writing.

    Anyway, mixing OUs and ubers is not a very good idea, since people who don't use ubers will complain or not battle you at all, while an uber-team will sweep through it without any trouble.

    Well, anyway, Sludge Bomb > Shadow Ball on gross. Put all those HP EVs into attack and those defense EVs into hp.

    For Jirachi, put half of those hp EVs into sp.def. I don't see any use for those random speed EVs there.

    Latias should have Safeguard over Ice Beam.

    Max out speed for Latios. Those random defense EVs aren't going to help him too much.

    Ho-oh seems quite standard so there aren't any problems there.

    Weezing is a physical tank/wall, not a special one. Put all those sp.def EVs into defense. Btw, you forgot to set the nature for it. Set it to Impish nature.

    I guess that should help. Like I said, this team rather won't win in an uber-battle, and people with non-uber teams won't fight you. Either make an OU team or an uber-team, but mixing them is not a very good idea.

    Well, good luck.
     
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    here is a pokemon to use

    Snorlax aka CruseLax

    Item@LeftOvers
    Moves: BodySlam
    Brick Break
    Cruse
    Shadow Ball

    Nature: Adamant

    Trait: thick Fat

    Evs
    HP 221
    Sp. Def 221


    Ok that's the one i use
     
    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 129 HP / 252 Atk / 129 SDef
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Shadow Ball

    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Wish

    Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Dragon Claw
    - Ice Beam
    - Psychic

    Latios (M) @ Soul Dew
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Dragon Claw
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt

    Ho-oh @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 188 HP / 254 Def / 68 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Recover
    - Sacred Fire
    - Thunderbolt

    Weezing (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
    Hardy Nature (Neutral)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Is this good?
     
    Is this good?
    Well, not quite.

    Metagross doesn't need any sp.def EVs. Give it 98 speed and put the rest in defense.

    Jirachi isn't going to work well with that 6 / 252 / 252 EV spread. Use like 160 hp, 172 sp.attack EVs, and put the rest in defenses.

    Like I said, Safeguard > Ice Beam on Latias, and it needs a recovery move, so Recover > Psychic. Psychic isn't such a great move in general. Dragon Claw already gets STAB anyway.

    Same with Latios. Recover > Psychic.

    For Ho-oh, 252 sp.attack, 236 speed and the rest in hp.

    Weezing will get KO-ed by most special attacks anyway, so put 196 EVs from those sp.def EVs in hp and what remained from those sp.def EVs, put them in attack.
     
    No. lol Go one way or another, DO NOT USE BOTH OU AND UBER.

    And you didn't make any of the changes that Torkoal_7 suggested. OK. Never mind, you took some, but... it doesn't matter. That team is still quite messed up.

    CBgross needs some Spd.

    Make Jirachi Bold. Use 240 HP / 116 Spd / 136 SAtk / 16 SDef

    Latias: It's Uber - dump it if you want to play OU

    Latios: Dump this too if you want to play OU. Btw, if you do want to play Uber, you want Modest and only 204 Spd EVs on this, along with Recover>Psychic.

    Ho-oh: It's Uber, what do you think I'm gonna tell you to do?

    Weezing (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Get a Sp.Wall such as Blissey (which doubles as a cleric) at the very least.

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 46 SDef
    Bold (+Def, -Atk)
    - Aromatheropy
    - Softboiled
    - Thunderwave
    - Seismic Toss

    I would suggest Rest>Haze on that Blastoise btw, as you've already got Weezing.

    here is a pokemon to use

    Snorlax aka CruseLax

    Item@LeftOvers
    Moves: BodySlam
    Brick Break
    Cruse
    Shadow Ball

    Nature: Adamant

    Trait: thick Fat

    Evs
    HP 221
    Sp. Def 221


    Ok that's the one i use
    Don't give advice.

    EDIT: Oh, your post wasn't up yet when I hit post reply. I guess I repeated a few things, didn't I?
     
    THis is my current team...Is it good?

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 170 HP / 252 Atk / 88 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Shadow Ball

    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 241 HP / 116 Spd / 136 SAtk / 17 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Wish

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 221 HP / 252 Def / 37 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Aromatherapy
    - Seismic Toss
    - Softboiled
    - Thunder Wave

    Salamence (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SDef
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Rock Slide

    Milotic (F) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 129 HP / 252 Atk / 129 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Mirror Coat
    - Recover
    - Surf

    Weezing (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 129 HP / 52 Atk / 129 Def / 200 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-O-Wisp
     
    Fixes and comments in bold.
    lds said:
    THis is my current team...Is it good?

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Sludge Bomb

    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 241 HP / 116 Spd / 136 SAtk / 17 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Wish

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Aromatherapy
    - Seismic Toss
    - Softboiled
    - Thunder Wave

    Salamence (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Rock Slide / Fire Blast

    Skarmory might give you problems so you might as well give Fire Blast to mence. Btw, I think you meant Dragon Dance instead of Dragon Claw.

    Milotic (F) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 196 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spd / 56 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Mirror Coat / Hypnosis
    - Recover
    - Surf

    Hypnosis is an option over MC, since Milotic can afford to miss a few times with its defenses. Btw, you should max out defense, and give it 196 hp. 252 attack EVs? Even if you would have gave it 252 sp.attack EVs... it's not a sweeper.

    Weezing (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-O-Wisp
    I fixed the EVs and natures where it was necessary. Overall it's a very nice team. Well, good luck.
     
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    torkoal_7 said:
    Fixes and comments in bold.

    I fixed the EVs and natures where it was necessary. Overall it's a very nice team. Well, good luck.


    OK for Salamance I meant Dragon Claw...Cause Like you said Milotic isnt a Sweeper so Ice Beam wont realy hurt it...

    So I think this is Finall...

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Sludge Bomb

    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 241 HP / 116 Spd / 136 SAtk / 17 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Wish

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Aromatherapy
    - Seismic Toss
    - Softboiled
    - Thunder Wave


    Salamence (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Fire Blast

    Milotic (F) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 196 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spd / 56 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Hypnosis
    - Recover
    - Surf

    Weezing (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-O-Wisp
     
    lds said:
    OK for Salamance I meant Dragon Claw...Cause Like you said Milotic isnt a Sweeper so Ice Beam wont realy hurt it...
    Dragon Claw on a physical mence? Even if it was a special attacking mence, Dragon Claw wouldn't OHKO other dragons even then, while Ice Beam from Milotic should OHKO other Salamences for sure, so you need Dragon Dance over Dragon Claw on mence.

    Btw, I didn't notice this earlier, just now, that your Milotic is holding Lum berry! Any Milotics I see, either have Refresh, Safeguard, or are holding Lum berry... No. Milotic should be actually switched in on any status effect, because its trait 'Marvel Scale' will boost its defense by 1.5 when status effected. And a defensive wall is always useful, no? Leftovers over Lum berry and it should be ok.

    Other than that, your team looks fine.
     
    lds said:
    So I think this is Finall...

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Sludge Bomb

    I've been using rock slide over sludge bomb for gyarados and zapdos
    its only a matter of preference though. I use more HP and Def


    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 241 HP / 116 Spd / 136 SAtk / 17 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Wish

    give it a defense stat of 300, 401 HP, and 240 speed, place the rest how you like them

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Aromatherapy
    - Seismic Toss
    - Softboiled
    - Thunder Wave

    standard

    Salamence (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Fire Blast

    264 speed, max attack, rest in special attack is pretty fun

    Milotic (F) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 196 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spd / 56 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Hypnosis
    - Recover
    - Surf

    needs 250 SpAtk

    Weezing (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-O-Wisp

    k


    this team has no glaring weakness

    just don't burn anymore heracross' :\
     
    metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Sludge Bomb


    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 241 HP / 116 Spd / 136 SAtk / 17 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Wish

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Aromatherapy
    - Seismic Toss
    - Softboiled
    - Thunder Wave

    Salamence (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Fire Blast

    Milotic (F) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 196 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spd / 56 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Hypnosis
    - Recover
    - Surf


    Weezing (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-O-Wisp



    Thx.. so thats my fianl team....
     
    lds said:
    OK for Salamance I meant Dragon Claw...Cause Like you said Milotic isnt a Sweeper so Ice Beam wont realy hurt it...

    So I think this is Finall...

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - AGILITY!!!!!!!

    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 HP / 116 Spd / 112 SAtk / 30 Def
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Substitute

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Aromatherapy
    - Seismic Toss
    - Softboiled
    - Ice Beam
    Yeah duggy

    Salamence (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Fire Blast
    CBMence is redundant w/o max speed.

    Milotic (F) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 196 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spd / 56 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Hypnosis
    - Recover
    - Surf

    Weezing (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-O-Wisp
    One two three four twenty-five
     
    ho-oh is much better as a CBer in my opinion.
     
    ? Bleep ? said:
    ho-oh is much better as a CBer in my opinion.
    Did someone hack your account? I thought you knew better than to suggest an Uber in an OU team.

    264 speed, max attack, rest in special attack is pretty fun
    Well, if you want to KO Skarm guaranteed, then you want 287 SAtk. 270 Spd to outspeed Adamant Heracross doesn't require that many more EVs, and the rest is best spent in Atk. (In other words 240 Atk / 140 Spd / 128 SAtk with either Lonely or Naughty.) If you hit Skarm with a DDed HP [Flying] on the switch in, FB will guarantee KO. The only thing you have to worry about is it missing.

    Btw, Milotic does have 250 SAtk with 56 EVs.
     
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    lol It was just a suggestion of what to do with Ho-Oh, not an addition, Bleep isn't stupid.
     
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