New OU Team

[KinokiGaming]

I been trying to think out a new team that I will be entering famous tournament in June. Anything that can help is welcome here. This is what I got so far.

Lead - Weavile@ Focus Sash
Jolly 4 HP l 252 Atk l 252 Spd
Ice Shard l Fake Out l Night Slash l Taunt
Weavile is here to take out or stall stealth rockers and/or spikers.

Physical Attacker - Feraligatr@ Life Orb
Jolly 252 Atk l 4 Def l 252 Spd
Waterfall l Low Kick l Ice Punch l Dragon Dance
I choose Feraligatr over Gyrados because I will show the world that he can be a OU Dragon Dancer! (Not Really, just because I love him and want to be different.)

Mixed Attacker - Sceptile@ Life Orb
Hasty 252 Atk l 80 SpA l 176 Spd
Leaf Storm l Dragon Pulse l Leaf Blade l Earthquake
My Revenge Killer in the group and something that can take out the fast pokemon before they can hurt me.

Special Attacker - Gengar@ Choice Scarf
Timid 4 HP l 252 SpA l 252 Spd
Shadow Ball l Thunder Bolt l Focus Blast l Energy Ball
I love this moveset, just saying, I rather not use trick to give out the choice scarf because I could get crap or he switches out then kills me over with an even faster pokemon. x_x

Physical Wall - Forretress@ Leftovers
Relaxed 252 HP l 112 Atk l 144 Def
Spikes l Rapid Spin l Gyro Ball l Explosion
I already have enough attackers so this is my 1st wall after Weavile is murdered. I know he can Spike and Rapid Spin other hazards in my way. Instead of Earthquake, if i'm about to lose and Forretress is my last guy, I can make a laugh and yell out... "WTF! *Boom*" (I already have two pokemon that has earthquake)

Special Wall - Snorlax@ Lum Berry
Careful 252 Atk l 4 Def l 252 SpD
Rest l Fire Punch l Earthquake l Body Slam
My epic tank, something to screw over scizor.

Other Notes: I might want to switch out my sceptile for something else, maybe as a SubLeech or use a Slack Berry Moveset I kinda made up, but I need help and your thoughts!

 

[RulerArceus]

wanna battle using any pokemon (except ubers) no rules right now. i have pearl

Fire15, this thread is a helping kind of thing, not a place to ask for battles.
PMing him would be better.I think.
Anyways,
Sceptile is great, though maybe Leech seed would be better than Dragon Pulse.
Gengar might be better off with Dark Pulse than Focus Blast.
Ice Punch rather than Ice Shard on Weavile. Your'e teams so fast, you won't really need to slow things down.
Feraligators okay.
Forretress is okay.
And Snorlax, I dunno. I think you can improve it, but i don't know how.
Hope these words actually help at all, because a little part of my Judgement says I suck at stuff like this.
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[KinokiGaming]

Thanks, Weavile has Ice Shard just because I have so much trouble with other pokemon that has priority moves like Scizor. I think I shall keep Gengars's Focus Blast so I can take out Blissy. My thoughts on Sceptile is completely switching him into a pure subseeder. Thanks for all the help.

 

[jab2033]

I think I shall keep Gengars's Focus Blast so I can take out Blissy.

Unfortunately, Focus Blast won't do much damage to Blissey. Blissey's SpDef is through the roof, which means that as a Special Attack, Focus Blast barely does anything, even with a Super-effective hit.

Try something like Superpower on Feraligatr. Even your current Low Kick on Feraligatr will do more damage to Blissey than Gengar's Focus Blast.

 

[KinokiGaming]

I don't want to use Superpower just because of the lower stats after I use Dragon Dance, thats why I prefer Low Kick. I'm keeping Gengars moveset so hes is more diverse and able to take out anything that comes his way. Focus Blast is there to take out other walls! x]

 

[TheRichar]

I could suggest something else, I have a weavile as my lead which has taunt ice shard counter and fake out. (with Hasty nature). This way you can use counter and Scizor's U-turn to KO the next pokemon and I would choose aqua jet over waterfall in Feraligatr. Hope I've been helpful ^_^

 

[Vrai]

I'm presuming this is a Gen IV team, and while I'm not the most proficient at Gen IV I'll try and give it a go. :)

If you're determined to run a Weavile lead, run Counter > Ice Shard. It actually lets you beat some common leads like Metagross and Swampert without having to try to hit them pitifully. If you predict correctly, the payoff of running Counter is enormous. Also, Ice Shard isn't doing much to help you when you outrun every common lead (except uhh Aerodactyl who you tie with iirc) and you have Fake Out to break Sashes. Regardless, I personally wouldn't run Weavile at all, especially because of how Scizor-bait he is...

Feraligatr doesn't run an OU DD set, because its speed reaches nothing notable, it doesnt have outstanding immunities/resistances, and common +1 scarfers still outspeed it without fear. It would probably be much better to run an SD set coupled with priority:

Feraligatr @ Lum Berry/Life Orb
Jolly: 252 Attack/252 Speed/4 HP
- Swords Dance
- Waterfall/Aqua Tail
- Aqua Jet
- Return

Water + Normal moves offer near-perfect coverage in Gen IV, resisted only by Empoleon and Shedinja. Waterfall is there for heavy damage to things that are slower, and Aqua Jet picks off faster stuff. Again, you shouldn't run DD Feraligatr because it is entirely outclassed by Gyarados. Make use of its strengths in SD.

for Gengar: a) Trick > Energy Ball so you can beat Blissey and other things. If you're predicting well, then Trick shouldn't swap the Scarf to something that can ravage your team... :/ b) Scarf Gengar sucks now that people have figured out the move Pursuit. It's everywhere, on basically every team. If Gengar comes in and uses Shadow Ball to kill something, then Tyranitar will come in and CB Pursuit to OHKO it and then you'll be without your Scarfer. Run a different Gengar set if you want to run Gengar - something with Substitute so you're not so screwed over by Pursuit.

Also, if they're using it right, CB Scizor (the most common set) isn't staying in on Snorlax anyway...

Other Notes: I might want to switch out my sceptile for something else, maybe as a SubLeech or use a Slack Berry Moveset I kinda made up, but I need help and your thoughts!

What is a Slack Berry moveset ...?

 

[PlatinumDude]

Why is your Snorlax Calm? It could've been Careful or Adamant.

And as for Sceptile, an OU version of Life Orb is better:
-Leaf Storm
-Earthquake/Focus Blast
-Dragon Pulse
-Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Timid/Hasty
EVs: 28 Atk or HP/252 SAtk/228 Spe
Item: Life Orb

 

[KinokiGaming]

O_O Thanks it is Careful, my bad. Its actully V Gen. I hate all the V Gen Pokemon except two. x]

Weavile was something I thought up with a passion. I always get screwed up my ass when it came with Aerodactyl, Flygon, or Dragonite. So I just wanted to get the quick Ice Shard before he could use them. If you have a better lead then please tell me.

Feraligatr is my Dragon Dancer because I just want to be different then the next guy and use something else. If it doesn't for well for me in some practice matches then ill switch it into a Sword Dancer. I do know the Feraligatr is outclassed by Gyarados, but people will be surprise to see a Feraligatr DD user instead of a DD Gyarados. I was thinking about that psychologically on how they would react. If I took out the DD Feraligatr and Weavile Lead, I would have nothing to take out Dragon Types.

I knew Gengar had the Pursuit problem and I'm trying to keep the Item Cause in this team so I didn't have any other idea for an item so I choose that. I would rather have an Life Orbed Gengar, but I can't for the item cause so I choose that recklessly. Thanks for the info and if you can, tell me a better item.

 

[Dark Azelf]

The item clause isnt a valid clause, its just really restrictive so is never used.

You're very Scizor weak btw. Put bulky Gyarados over Feraligatr to check it.

Rotom-W is a superior scarfer to Gengar additionally.

Weavile is a waste of a Pokemon honestly lol. Why not run Swampert over it ? Swampert beats all the things Weavile does anyway when leading and isnt horribad like Weavile is. Swampert can also set up SR which you currently dont have aka the best move in the game.

Payback > Boom and more Sp.Def on Forry, this lets you beat ghost who come in to block its spin.

As for Snorlax, Curse > EQ and Leftovers over Lum Berry would be hot. Careful 188 HP / 104 Def / 216 SpD.

 

[KinokiGaming]

The tournament that i'm entering has the item clause so I have to use one 1 per item.

I was thinking replacing Weavile with a Infernape Lead or Gliscor Lead:

Lead - Infernape@ Focus Sash
Naive 64 Atk l 252 SpA l 192 Spd
Fake Out l Stealth Rock l Fire Blast l Close Combat

Lead - Gliscor@ Leftovers
Jolly 252 HP l 4 Def l 252 Spd
Stealth Rock l Earthquake l Roost l Taunt

As I said before. I WILL NOT SWITCH FERALIGATR FOR GYARADOS!. I love it that everyone is giving me these comments, but this isn't going to happen. I want to be that weird guy across the street and use something else.

Again, I was choosing recklessly about what item to choose from. I would love to Life Orb it, but I can't because of the Item Cause in the tournament. If you have a better item, tell me!

I will put Payback in for all the Ghost typings in GEN V because it is a GEN V Tournament.
I like the WTF *Boom* move just so I can get a tie instead of a lost. x]

Determining if I use the Infernape Lead or Gliscor Lead, Thats when Ill switch for Curse instead of Earthquake.

 

[RulerArceus]

Unless that Infernape is meant to do one hit then go down to such low HP there wasn't much point of the Sash and you force yourself to fodder it, I'd put U-Turn over Fire Blast. Close Combat is STAB enough.
Gliscor is more dominant over Infernape in the Gen V OU,though, but I think an Infernape should still be able to take a few hits.
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[KinokiGaming]

If I do choose Gliscor, I will have nothing to take out Skarmory, Forretress, and Scizor. If I use Infernape. I would keep the move set it has or just make it into a mixed attacker and have Forretress as my lead. I wonder if he could learn Stealth Rock. o-o

 

[Vrai]

Unless that Infernape is meant to do one hit then go down to such low HP there wasn't much point of the Sash and you force yourself to fodder it, I'd put U-Turn over Fire Blast. Close Combat is STAB enough.
Gliscor is more dominant over Infernape in the Gen V OU,though, but I think an Infernape should still be able to take a few hits.
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...? Focus Sash allows you to get in one more hit before you die. Infernape is pretty fast (though there are more things that outspeed it this gen) and it's really frail, meaning it's not going to take more than one hit without the sash, either. IMO, having STAB > U-turn, especially when most people are relatively conservative early-game.

 

[KinokiGaming]

Yeah. Would it be better to have Spikes or Stealth Rock of Forretress? I know he is known for using spikes, but would it be better to have stealth rock. Infernape is what i'm keeping for instead of Gliscor. Should I switch Infernape for a Mixed attacker and have Forretress as my lead?