New Team, 2nd time typing it up...

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

The Line-Up
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Swampert @ Leftovers
Relaxed <240HP/212DEF/58SP.ATK>
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Surf
Roar


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Skarmory @ Leftovers
Impish <252HP/64ATK/194DEF>
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind
Roost

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Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold <72HP/252DEF/122SP.ATK/64SP.DEF>
Surf
Ice Beam
Light Screen
Recover

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Lucario @ Wise Glasses
Modest <252SP.ATK/252SPD/6HP>
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Dark pulse
Vacuum Wave

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Metagross @ Life Orb
Adamant <252ATK/154HP/104SPD>
Meteor Mash
Thunder Punch
Earthquake
Agility

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Salamence @ Leftovers
Bold <252HP/220DEF/36SPD>
Toxic/Roost
Stone Edge
Flamethrower
Draco Meteor

I suppose it works pretty well. Milotic can act as a Special Wall and as a Special Attacker. Skarmory is a staller and supporter. Salamence and Metagross Attack and do mass damage if used properly. Lucario acts as a Special Sweeper and makes a darn good one of them. Swampert is my Physical Sweeper. He can also be a Special Sweeper when needed. Bulky Gyarados does do massive damage to this team so should I get Stone Edge on one of the pokemon? I'm thinking Salamence.
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[Ryuzaki_Lawliet]

the only thing that bugs me- 5 have leftovers. Out of 6. T.T; Change that, tghen you'll be pretty much good.

 

[Angelic Diablo]

sigh... leftovers is like the best item in the game, almost all pokemon prefer to have it, except for the sweepers, but this one doesnt...

Need a more reliable special wall, Thunderbolt sends Milo to it's grave and yours seems to be more physically orientated anyway so that aint gonna be walling much even with LS

 

[tylerowicz]

hmm.. with metagross... life orb isnt the best. i have battled with an agiligross cuz i have one in my team, and using life orb isnt the best suggestion, even though his attacking is going mental. its not the best
either choose shell bell which restores 1/8 of life ever time you hit instead of 1/16 with leftovers
or possibly choice band or a leichi berry
i use a shell bell just because i fine it helps when im boosting agility and their attacking

hmm.. with metagross... life orb isnt the best. i have battled with an agiligross cuz i have one in my team, and using life orb isnt the best suggestion, even though his attacking is going mental. its not the best
either choose shell bell which restores 1/8 of life ever time you hit instead of 1/16 with leftovers
or possibly choice band or a leichi berry
i use a shell bell just because i fine it helps when im boosting agility and their attacking

 

[Aquilae]

You're right about the Gyarados weakness, there is also a noticeable weakness to strong special attackers with Thunderbolt/Grass Knot, Mixape is particularly worrying since it can take down 5/6ths of this team (NP version).
You also do not have a counter to Nasty Plot Azelf, Togekiss and Hypnosis Yanmega. Lack of a sleep absorber means Gengar, Bronzong etc. would spam Hypnosis without any repercussions.

Your sweepers are particularly weak given that none of them can inflict enough damage to break a stall team. Agiligross is not good in DP, it doesn't hit hard enough. Lucario would like Choice Specs > Wise Glasses as 115 SpA isn't really good enough to warrant Wise Glasses.

I would advise Choice Specs on Lucario, HP Ice > Dragon Pulse for Gliscor, taking down Gliscor would aid Metagross in sweeping. Aura Sphere and Dark Pulse cover the majority of physical walls that would be switching into Lucario already.
Choice Band on Metagross, run 252 HP/236 Attack/8 Def/12 SpD, unless you want extra speed EVs for Skarmory.

RestTalk Snorlax > Milotic, giving your team defence against Hypnosis and a counter to special sweepers.

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Careful, 244 HP/28 Def/236 SpD

Rest
Sleep Talk
Crunch
Body Slam

Immunity and Thick Fat are due to preference, I prefer Immunity as it allows Snorlax to come in on Toxic and stuff and not have to waste a turn Resting.

Swampert and Skarmory are basically covering the same pokemon - Swamperts ability to counter TB/HP Ice pokemon (Jolteon, Zapdos) is done by Snorlax, and Skarmory counters Metagross and Tyranitar nicely. CB Tyranitar may 2HKO with Stone Edge, but basically it is just an invitation for Lucario to switchin and laugh as it does ~27%.

I would recommend Vaporeon > Swampert:

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold, 188 HP/252 Def/64 SpA

Surf
HP Electric
Wish
Roar

Fills the PHazing spot and makes a great Gyarados counter and Wishpasser.

I recommend some improvements on your sets -

On Skarmory, I would run 24 Speed EVs on it to outrun Wobbuffet regardless, it isn't a heavy investment on your part. 152 Attack EVs with Brave Bird makes for a 3HKO on BulkyDos provided it hasn't Intimidated, useful if Vaporeon is down. Stealth Rock > Spikes due to the offensive nature of this team - an easy 25% off the likes of Gyara and Mence.

I personally feel that Mence should run the BulkyDDRoost set, namely:

Salamence @ Life Orb
Jolly, 252 HP/12 Attack/196 Def/76 Speed

Dragon Dance
Roost
Dragon Claw
Earthquake

LO is for more damage - ensuring a OHKO on Luke. After a Dragon Dance and Life Orb Heracross, Weavile and Garchomp are OHKOed while the fail to OHKO unless carrying Choice Band (LO Weavile Ice Punch still OHKOs though).

You may choose to run more speed for Jolly Lucario although I would not recommend it. 176 Speed is what you would need.

It may come in useful for a lategame sweep and generally functions as a wall *** setup sweeper. The Stealth Rock weakness is what hinders it, so you might want to consider Gliscor..

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Jolly, 116 HP/136 Attack/142 Def/116 Speed

Earthquake
Ice Fang
Roost
Swords Dance

Hey look SDGliscor has no counters its Ube

This has a much less chance of pulling off a sweep but functions as a more effective wall due to non-Stealth Rock weakness. Attack and Speed is for Lucario again, 216 if you want to outspeed JollyLuke.

Anyway, the team now is Lucario/Metagross/Skarmory/Salamence/Vaporeon/Snorlax

I don't know what should lead, Lucario seems like the best lead but isn't really helpful. In this occasion leading with Skarmory might give you an advantage laying down Stealth Rock.

Edit: To above poster, Shell Bell isn't boosting Gross' attacking power, which is kinda sad as 135 Attack is nowhere near spectacular especially with no overpowered moves to use it with. Liechi probably won't work unless you are some master of percentages and manage to get Gross down to below 25% in the battle without being KOed by a faster pokemon... so I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[Dark Azelf]

the only thing that bugs me- 5 have leftovers. Out of 6. T.T; Change that, tghen you'll be pretty much good.

Thats not helping here tbh, Leftovers is the optimum item for defensive pokemon, heck any pokemon really, its that good, so maybe a bit more research before posting again will go along way ?. Even if you are referring to to the item clause, its should be pretty obvious that this team is not going to be playing other teams that use that clause. Hence the multiple use of more than one item.

hmm.. with metagross... life orb isnt the best. i have battled with an agiligross cuz i have one in my team, and using life orb isnt the best suggestion, even though his attacking is going mental. its not the best
either choose shell bell which restores 1/8 of life ever time you hit instead of 1/16 with leftovers
or possibly choice band or a leichi berry
i use a shell bell just because i fine it helps when im boosting agility and their attacking

Shell bell is a blegh item tbh, Leftovers outclasses it in most, if not ALL cases. I actually prefer Life Orb on Agiligross, it really needs as much power as it can get.


As for the team, Aquillae pretty much covered it.

However, do you really need 2 phazers though ?


Skarmory may want a Shed shell, its your prime physical wall and Outrage blocker and you dont really want magnezone to remove it, as it opens up a few opportunities for sweepers once its gone, namely again DD/SD outrages.

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

Lucario @ Choice Specs
Modest <252SP.ATK/252SPD/6HP>
Dragon Pulse
Shadow Pulse
Aura Sphere
Vacuum Wave

Metagross @ Life Orb
Adamant <252ATK/154HP/104SPD>
Earthquake
Thunder Punch
Agility
Meteor Mash

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Impish <252HP/64ATK/194DEF> or <252HP/64ATK/24SPD/170DEF> or <228HP/64ATK/24SPD/194DEF> or <252HP/40ATK/194DEF/24SPD> or <252HP/172ATK/62DEF/24SPD> or <252HP/172ATK/86DEF>
Stealth Rock
Drill Peck/Brave Bird
Whirlwind/Roar
Roost

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Careful, 244 HP/28 Def/236 SpD
Rest
Sleep Talk
Crunch
Body Slam

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold, 188 HP/252 Def/64 SpA
Surf
HP Electric
Wish
Roar

Salamence @ Life Orb
Jolly, 252 HP/12 Attack/196 Def/76 Speed
Dragon Dance
Roost
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
or
Gliscor @ Leftovers
Jolly, 116 HP/136 Attack/142 Def/116 Speed
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Roost
Swords Dance

So this would be the ideal team then? Ok, Vaporeon might take a while, pulls out Flareon, better get started for the HP Electric.I don't have any Rare Candies though so is there another way of determining the IV's? I don't really like Choice items because you have to keep swapping for the ideal move but seeing as though it gives a better Sp.Atk boost I'll use it. Not sure where I'm going to get a 2nd Life Orb from. Don't have a Wireless router that works so that will take a while.

Originally posted by hannah909brown
the only thing that bugs me- 5 have leftovers. Out of 6. T.T; Change that, tghen you'll be pretty much good.

Correction. In that list there were only 4 Pokemon with Leftovers. That doesn't bug me. If you could please put forward you suggestions. I think I'll just use 6 Sitrus Berries than eh? Please learn about item beneficiancy during battles before you post.Besides this you and Tylerowicz have no reputation so I don't think you've been helping people out too much.

 

[Aquilae]

For Skarm, just go 252 HP/156 Attack/76 Def/24 Spe

All my calculations are made using max IVs, so you might want to tweak the EVs around to fit your IVs. Speed is probably the most important thing that you would have to focus on.

1 IV = 4 EVs

So if you wanted to use the above EV spread, with a Skarmory which has 28 IVs in speed, you will need to invest 12 more EVs to reach the desired speed.

I see eight pokemon there %_%

Without a Choice Specs, Lucario would be hard-pressed to deal with Blissey, missing the 2HKO. Same with Metagross, without Choice Band Meteor Mash wouldn't 2HKO Gliscor.

Another thing that I forgot to mention, Lucario can have either trait, it doesn't really matter because both are crappy >=(

Agiligross can't deal enough damage, so I would suggest CBGross in my last post:

Metagross @ Choice Band
Adamant, 252 HP/236 Attack/8 Def/12 SpD

Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion
Bullet Punch

You could go Life Orb > Choice Band, and something else > Explosion. Without Choice Band your damage output is significantly decreased. Bullet Punch is mainly for Subseeders and as a last resort, or for psuedo-revenge killing, so feel free to replace it with Pursuit or Ice Punch.

 

[Sleek Banette]

You could change Lucario to a sweeper set with Life Orb. And you could also make Swampert a Cursepert. Very nice Skarm. Odd ev spread. Maybe 252 atk, 252 defense, and 4 HP, or 252 HP, 252 atk, 4 defense. Whatever fits your team best =]

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

For Skarm, just go 252 HP/156 Attack/76 Def/24 Spe

All my calculations are made using max IVs, so you might want to tweak the EVs around to fit your IVs. Speed is probably the most important thing that you would have to focus on.

1 IV = 4 EVs

Yeah, I know how many EV's equal 1 IV. So what is the ideal speed for Skarmory? That might help a bit.

So if you wanted to use the above EV spread, with a Skarmory which has 28 IVs in speed, you will need to invest 12 more EVs to reach the desired speed.

I see eight pokemon there %_%

Fixed that up.

Without a Choice Specs, Lucario would be hard-pressed to deal with Blissey, missing the 2HKO. Same with Metagross, without Choice Band Meteor Mash wouldn't 2HKO Gliscor.

Fair enough then. I'll use that. Is there a Choice Band in Emerald? If I'm not mistaken I think there's one in the cave where you catch Snorunt but I'll need confirmation of that.

Another thing that I forgot to mention, Lucario can have either trait, it doesn't really matter because both are crappy >=(

I like Steadfast because it raises Speed but I suppose Inner Focus prevents flinching.

Agiligross can't deal enough damage, so I would suggest CBGross in my last post:

Metagross @ Choice Band
Adamant, 252 HP/236 Attack/8 Def/12 SpD

Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion
Ice Punch

You could go Life Orb > Choice Band(will probably do this but you did give LO a run for it's money), and something else (what could this something else be?) > Explosion. Without Choice Band your damage output is significantly decreased. Bullet Punch is mainly for Subseeders and as a last resort, or for psuedo-revenge killing, so feel free to replace it with Pursuit or Ice Punch.

Answers, questions and opinions are in bold. Please help me out. I'll be getting a Wireless Router soon so I wanna complete this team ASAP.

You could change Lucario to a sweeper set with Life Orb. And you could also make Swampert a Cursepert. Very nice Skarm. Odd ev spread. Maybe 252 atk, 252 defense, and 4 HP, or 252 HP, 252 atk, 4 defense. Whatever fits your team best

Mixedpert will pwn Cursepert any day. Lucario is a Sp.Sweeper and will stay that way. He pretty much has the same Base Sp.Atk and Atk stats.

 

[Archer]

Heatran is going to give you trouble. Vaporeon isn't going to take repeated beatings and Snorlax can't do anything back. Plus Metagross and Luke can't switch in on Fire attacks. Mence over Gliscor helps this to a degree.

 

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Heatran is going to give you trouble. Vaporeon isn't going to take repeated beatings and Snorlax can't do anything back. Plus Metagross and Luke can't switch in on Fire attacks. Mence over Gliscor helps this to a degree.

lolwut?

Snorlax is the best Heatran counter in the game. Rest/Sleep Talk/EQ/Crunch destroys Heatran with Thick Fat.

I reccomend Snorlax here, I'll post a set if you're interested.

 

[Aquilae]

Mence > Gliscor has its obvious advantages and disadvantages.

First, Mence is weak to Rock while Gliscor isn't. Stealth Rock + the extra ~19% you get from Close combat is forcing you to Roost.

But Mence also has really good resists, namely Fire, Water and Grass which allow it to come in on stuff that Gliscor cannot, and beat it one-on-one, namely CroCune and Heatran.

Mence is also weak to Dragon, takes ~80% from -1 attack Garchomp Outrage, anything else will OHKO.

I would recommend Gliscor for this team as Snorlax walls Heatran, Mence is not really required. If you're having problems with CroCune Mence is probably a better choice, other than that Gliscor > Mence.

Body Slam > EQ for obvious STAB and para, Snorlax can still deal with non Metal Sound Heatran to a degree.

@~Celebi~

The something else can be:

• Ice Punch (Gliscor, more accurate option for Hippowdon and Flyers)
• Thunderpunch (Gyarados, Suicune/Vaporeon, Skarmory, more accurate option for Flyers)
• Pursuit (Cresselia and Celebi, helps revenge killing)
• Bullet Punch (priority for Subseeders, last resort if Gross is outspeeded)

I wouldn't take away Explosion because it is one of the most powerful attacks in the metagame, OHKOing ~95% of pokemon, Skarm takes ~85%, obviously you won't use it on Aggron, Probopass or Bastiodon, or a Ghost type =X

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

lolwut?

Snorlax is the best Heatran counter in the game. Rest/Sleep Talk/EQ/Crunch destroys Heatran with Thick Fat.

I reccomend Snorlax here, I'll post a set if you're interested.
Yes please. Should I use Return over Body Slam as it has 17 Base Power more and by the time I get a Snorlax, Munchlax would've made the most of this.

I know this isnt the answer youre looking for but your post is very well put together and I like it.
What do you mean? Who were you answering?

Heatran is going to give you trouble. Vaporeon isn't going to take repeated beatings and Snorlax can't do anything back. Plus Metagross and Luke can't switch in on Fire attacks. Mence over Gliscor helps this to a degree.
Snorlax with Thick Fat covers the Heatran problem. Besides this, Heatran isn't as common as some other problems I had/have. I don't need immunity as Rest will recover the poisoning. Vaporeon doesn't need to take multiple beatings and Specs Luke can what, 2-3HKO Heatran. CBGross or LOGross can also 1-2HKO Heatran with EQ. So yeah, lolwut?

Answers in BOLD. Archer, I don't think Heatran will be too big a problem if I even encounter him/her.