new team

[Swampertrulz]

need some help with new swampert team

Swampert
torrent
careful

~Earthquake
~StoneEdge
~Waterfall
~Avalanche


Azelf
Timid
Levitate

~Flamethrower
~Grass Knot
~Nasty Plot
~Psychic

Salamence (competitive)
Modest
Intimidate

~Draco Meteor
~Brick Break
~Flamethrower
~Crunch

OR

Rayquaza
Adament
Air Lock

~Dragon Dance
~Earthquake
~Outrage
~Overheat

Bronzong
Bold
Levitate

~Stealth Rock
~Hypnosis
~Confuse Ray
~Reflect

Blissey
Quiet
Natural Cure

~Aromatherapy
~Softboiled
~Ice Beam
~Thunder Wave

Gliscor
Impish
Hyper Cutter

~Swords Dance
~Rock Polish
~Baton Pass
~Roost

 

[BobberyJo]

This section is for competitve battling. You have no ev's, no iv's, no natures and horrible movesets.
Anything works in-gmae, but to succeed in competitve battling, you need to make a lot of changes.

Go to this thread:https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/123757
for more information.

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

Along with thse, no-one needs to know what level they are. They can be Lv50 for all we care. Even Lv1. Look at some other team lists, learn about EV's, IV's, Nature's and movesets before you post another team. I'm surprised it was accepted. Maybe it was allowed so that people could criticise it. Look at the thread that BobberyJo gave a link to, read it carefully, realise that this isn't a full team of 6 and then I'd be happy to give "constructive" criticism about your so called "team".

 

[Azonic]

Swampert LV 100

earthquake
hammer arm
ice beam
muddy water

Muddy Water is outclassed by Hydropump if you're running Mixpert. Hammer Arm has little use and coverage to offer between the other moves it is using. Consider Curse or Rest.

Swampert@Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Defense / 40 SpAtk
- Earthquake
- Hydropump
- Icebeam
- Stealth Rock / Roar / Protect / Rest

Blaziken LV 100
fire punch
blaze kick
brave bird(lol)
sky uppercut

Two fire moves on the same Pokemon is a definite no no. It just lowers the coverage you have to offer. Consider Agility or Swords Dance over Blaze Kick and Flare Blitz or Fire Blast over Fire Punch. Seeing as you have Zapdos on your team it is nice for support.

Blaziken@Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
Nature: Mild
EVs: 150 SpAtk / 202 Attack / 156 Speed
- Agility
- Fire Blast / Flare Blitz
- Reversal / Sky Uppercut
- Brave Bird / Baton Pass / Hidden Power [ICE]

Zapdos LV 100

fly
thunder
thunderbolt
drill peck

Fly is a no on this moveset, as is Thunder and Thunderbolt. Two Flying moves and two electric moves? Zapdos is most commonly used as a supporter.

Zapdos@Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Substitute / Hidden Power [ICE]
- Thunderbolt
- Agility
- Baton Pass

Spiritomb (soon to b darkrai) LV 100

ominous wind
dark pulse
hypnosis
dream eater

Darkrai it will not be, since it will not fit in an OU team. Spiritomb more commonly uses Will-o-Wisp to destroy physical sweepers, plus you can burn more than one Pokemon. For that reason Dream Eater will also be of no use. Dark Pulse is meh. Ominous Wind is a tad bit weak.

Spiritomb@Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Impish
Evs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 84 SpDef
- Pursuit / Taunt
- Sucker Punch / Taunt
- Will-o-Wisp
- Pain Split / Rest

Blissey will do wonders for this team. I suggest you use it.

 

[Swampertrulz]

thanks clade. i guess i just forgot about natures, but i got these pkmn in trades so i dont really know their evs. o, and i got a blissey (trade), but i need some help with the moves:

Blissey
quiet

double edge
healing wish
softboiled
thunder

i still need ideas for the final team member( i know it wasnt 6)

and also, shouldnt i teach a pkmn focus punch, cause using my new zapdos' subpassing, if i pass 2 a focus punch, then it would work.

o and blisseys ability is serene grace. p.s. how would i even get zapdos 2 learn bp nyway?

yea i just checked and zappy cant learn bp which means i wasted my sub tm on him. ny other bp suggestions?

 

[Lalapizzame]

thanks clade. i guess i just forgot about natures, but i got these pkmn in trades so i dont really know their evs. o, and i got a blissey (trade), but i need some help with the moves:

Blissey
quiet

double edge
healing wish
softboiled
thunder

i still need ideas for the final team member( i know it wasnt 6)

and also, shouldnt i teach a pkmn focus punch, cause using my new zapdos' subpassing, if i pass 2 a focus punch, then it would work.

o and blisseys ability is serene grace. p.s. how would i even get zapdos 2 learn bp nyway?

yea i just checked and zappy cant learn bp which means i wasted my sub tm on him. ny other bp suggestions?

Eww...that's a horrible Blissey and get a new one with Natural Cure.I think Zapdos learns Baton Pass in Pokemon XD only.

 

[Swampertrulz]

yeah. im not really used to using any kind of defensive strategy, so i have trouble with blissey.

ok, im taking a basic ida from wishbliss, but i cant use wish, so its basically

Blissey
Quiet
Serene Grace(watevs)

softboiled
protect
thunderbolt/ice beam
toxic/thunder wave

also, im going to try out a shed shell on my zapdos. i dont think it will, but it might hold the sub *shrug*

dosnt werk. o i just was thinking, should i put safeguard instead of toxic/wave? that would make it a nearly impenetrable pp waster wall. idk

 

[El Gofre]

Blissey needs natural cure dude. Serene Grace does nothing for her, and NC is amazingly helpful. Also, if you want to start getting into competetive battling you need to be prepared to rebreed for the correct natures and abilities, and to begin EV training yourself.

Blissey@Leftovers
Calm
252Def/216SpDef/40HP
Softboiled
Aromatherapy
Seismi Toss
Thunderwave

Standard Bliss ftw.

 

[Kirioroshi]

O.o why does zapdos need shed shell?

 

[El Gofre]

O.o why does zapdos need shed shell?

It doesnt say that anywhere...

 

[Divine~Deoxys]

need some help with new swampert team

Swampert LV 100

earthquake
hammer arm
ice beam
muddy water

go with clade.

Blaziken LV 100
fire punch
blaze kick
brave bird(lol)
sky uppercut

go with clade.

Zapdos LV 100

fly
thunder
thunderbolt
drill peck

go with clade. Thunder is only any good on rain dance teams really mate, and people can switch on fly. T-bolt and Drill Peck are all right moves, but like it has been said, it is mainly used as a supporter.
Spiritomb (Soon to be Darkrai) LV 100

ominous wind
dark pulse
hypnosis
dream eater

no legendaries!!!
rares ok

the parts in bold totally contradict veach other, and as has been said, Darkrai is uber, not OU. Dont use Safeguard on Blissey, it can do much greater things. I got it wrong before and put levels too, but dont take all these critiscisms to heart, as it is constructive advice, and does work.You could maybe do with a special sweeper or a spinner. Starmie might do you good.

 

[Swampertrulz]

yeah, the whole darkrai thing was that im getting darkrai tomorrow, but therefore it is the only lgendary i can get within a month or more

 

[Sora_8920]

There's a difference between Legendaries & Ubers. =/

 

[Swampertrulz]

well, id want 2put darkrai on, just 2 bbattle wit my friends. they have teams o lv 100 hacked ubers, so its only fair, but ill use spiritomb 4 nything else.

o, & since ur all obviously better than me, mab u can help wit darkrai. unless there are completely cruel, they will b giving a lv 5 darkrai that the japs got. here it is

Darkrai
????
????
trait: bad dreams

roar of time
spacial rend
hypnosis
nightmare

 

[Divine~Deoxys]

There's a difference between Legendaries & Ubers. =/

Yeah, but Darkrai's both.Oh, and Spurtrulez, if your friends arent very tactical try this set:

Darkrai@Leftovers
Timid
(im no good with EVs)
Nightmare
Dark Void
Dream Eater
Dark Pulse

 

[Dark Azelf]

Yeah, but Darkrai's both.Oh, and Spurtrulez, if your friends arent very tactical try this set:

Darkrai@Leftovers
Timid
(im no good with EVs)
Nightmare
Dark Void
Dream Eater
Dark Pulse

Darkrai is Uber, not both =/

* The following Pokemon are banned: Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-oh,Latios, Latias, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Deoxys (all forms apart from speed.), Palkia, Dialga, Giratina, Manaphy, Darkrai & Arceus (all types).


ALL THE ABOVE ARE UBER !!

* The following pokemon are allowed :- Zapdos, Articuno, Moltres, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Celebi, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Jirachi, Deoxys Speed, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf ,Phione, Cresselia, Regigigas, Shaymin, Heatran.

ALL THE ABOVE ARE LEGENDARY !!!

There is a HUGE difference, find a tier list and read it.


Anyway, sucky Darkrai is sucky =/. It made my eyes bleed. Its walled to no end..

Darkrai@life Orb
156 Attk / 176 Sp.Att / 176 Speed
Hasty / Naive Nature
- Focus Punch
- Dark Void
- Dark Pulse
- Thunder

OR

Darkrai@leftovers
252 Sp.A / 6 Sp.D / 252 Speed
Timid Nature
- Dark Void
- Dark Pulse
- Substitute
- Calm mind

 

[.]

Nightmare? No thanks. Use this set:

Darkrai @ Leftovers
Hasty
Bad Dreams
252 SpA, 196 Spe, 72 SpD
Dark Void
HP Psychic/Taunt
Dark Pulse
Calm Mind/Thunder

A mixed set with Focus Punch would be nice though.

 

[Divine~Deoxys]

Nightmare is the tactical way, but unreliable, your way just looks weird

 

[.]

Nightmare is not needed. Bad Dreams does that. My set offers the ability to hit Fighting types with HP Psychic. Calm Mind gives it a SpD and SpA boost. Thunder for hitting all sorts of threats (namely Kyogre, which is a beast) Taunt to stop Gyarados, Tyranitar, Dragonite, Mence, Chomp, Luke, etc... from setting up for a sweep. It's also good since a Guts Hera is immune to Dark Void (it's already statused) so Taunt will stop it from SDing and wiping out you're whole team.

Taunt also laughs at Baton Passers, sometimes completely nullifying their chances of making a match deciding BP.

But of course, what would I know, right?

 

[Dark Azelf]

Yeah, guys, calm it down before it goes any further ok ?


@ Thread maker, is this team for competitive battles or just for friends, seeing as how you mentioned it previously ? If it is just for just with friends then i see no point in this thread tbh.

You might want to edit your first post aswell, so we know what your current team is, such as movests etc.





EDIT: Focus Punch does more than a super effective HP Psychic btw =/, Psychic moves have terrible coverage on ubers anyways, literally the whole uber metagame resists it, hence why Psychic is not used on Mewtwo etc..