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4th Gen Official Johto Map Discussion

Also, if I may point out...

What is that at the base of Mount Silver? Is that the Indigo Plataeu?
 
I believe the part with clouds over it on Mt. Silver is the Shinto Temple.
 
Haha thanks Haza, it's been so long since I last played Silver.

The new map really looks awesome. If they can squeeze all this (apparently) new stuff into the Johto region and have the Kanto region (albeit not as empty) as well..I'm pretty sure this game will be well worth the wait.

Just for the sake of it..

I'll put my two cents on Kyogre and Groudon being in Kanto. I wonder if they'll reimplement Dive spots?
 
Im just speculating but it is highly possible that that is what it is. And you would not have remembered because the Shinto is not in the originals.
 
#1 is very interesting on that map. Looks like soiome sort of resort area or something. At the top there are spots that look dedicated for certain different types of Pokemon.
 
Johto Map

For some reason- my laptop is really slow and I can't upload the picture I'm working from, but if you want it for reference to what I'm about to say, go ahead and email me at [email protected].

BLUE DOTS represent cities & towns. You should be able to recognise them.
PINK DOTS represent landmarks. Again, I shouldn't have to point them out.
RED CIRCLES represent what I think. Here I'll explain (starting from the new area by Cianwood moving east):

1) At the bottom of the new area, there seems to be a new network of caves.
2) This mansion everybody is on about. To be honest, I think its either a gateway into no. 3 area, or a house for the player like the one in the Resort Area in Platinum.
3) Six areas. This is definately a Pal Park. Look at the Six Areas and think: Field, Mountain, Forest, Sea, Pond. (YES I KNOW THERE ARE ONLY 5)
4) Clouds by Olivine. Hmmm... Funny Clouds can mean only one thing- A BATTLE FRONTIER!!
5) Big Yellow Patch. This is one of three things. a) Johto has a bad case of Forest Fires. b) Theres a really big desert above Johto thats gone unnoticed. c) Its the natural colour of the grass. Look at the picture of Ecruteak City on the official website, and glance towards Tin Tower, you'll know what I mean.
6) The bit by the National Park. I think this will be a Contest Hall, because there are loads of Ribbons now- and Johto Contests were mentioned in the anime.
7) The big tower. Now, I know some think its a revamped Radio Tower, but no. I can see the REAL radio tower next to it. This will most likely be a GTS, because of the PokeCom Center in the Japanese Crystal- they functioned about the same.
8) Mt Mortar. I know this already existed but there were only three entrances before. If you look really closely, while zoomed, there is a fourth entrance just above the middle one.
9) The river-delta thing by the Lake of Rage- they've either put in a new cave to help with Pokemon distribution or its related to the Team Rocket quest.
10) The two pools in Ilex Forest. Most likely just added for visual effect.

And that would be it. I like how all the new things are on the western side of the map. Also, do you think they will release a newer map of Kanto any time soon, since we know its in the games now?
 
Actually to let everybody know the orange blur above Ecruteak City is TREES! NORMAL TREES! I think they are called Enju Trees and are known for their orangey color.
 
There's a lot of people saying that the area left of Cianwood is a Pal Park because of the four areas, but that couldn't be a Pal Park because those area are way too big to be an area of the Pal Park. Maybe that area is something we have never seen before.
 
Honestly the idea of it being a Pal Park west of Cianwood for me just doesn't seem to click. I mean yes it would make sense to do so, but the new DSi not including the GBA slot makes there a chance for it not to return to another 4th generation game. The four divided areas however make it noticeable and makes the possibility differ. My thought would probably go to a new park, such as the Safari Zone. The reason why is because the Bug Catching Park was more bug related types and didn't give more a variety in Pokémon other than this basic set. Not to forget, the Safari Zone for Kanto was closed before in the originals, so recreating one in Johto would seem beneficial. It would also bring in more of a variety unlike the park and enlarge the city's place of use. I wouldn't mind seeing a Safari Zone placed here, but I'd like to look into it more as information becomes further released by next month or so. There are different ideas for this location though, and I'm sure at least one of them might have a higher possibility of being true than the next.
 
@ Hiroshi Sotomura: The whole cramped metropolis thing made the city seem much more bigger, seeing as it occupied the same amount of space as Ecruteak, Violet, Olivine and Blackthorn Cities. Plus, not all of the city was narrow. The main road running north-south was a wide boulevard, as was the street running just south of the train tracks. But if it's for the better, I suppose you're right.

And remarking on the golden/orange forest: i think it was a decorative attribute to the Tin Tower and the presence of HeartGold and Gold's legendary Pokemon. I'm sure the whirl islands will get some special attribute, but because the caves are subterranean (or even oceanic for that matter), it is unlikely we'll see what has changed until the game's Japanese release or just get it ourselves. I don't know if the area near Cianwood is a Safari Zone or a Pal Park, but because these two games will offer pretty much the first 251 Pokemon and then some, the only reason why they would include it is for the RSE games. Because i believe that Kanto won't deviate much from the original storyline that took place in GSC, it's probably a Safari Zone. If it's post-Elite Four, it could possibly offer RSE Pokemon.
 
MetalMario said:
And you failed to note that suspicious, orange place north of Ecruteak.
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I doubt that area has any importance to it. It's most likely just part of the map and there to simply add landscape.

Although, It would be nice if they did add some sort of event there. Walking through that forest of orangey Enju Trees(thanks to samme426 for the name), would probably be really eye pleasing.
 
Hiroshi Sotomura said:
Agreed. We see some trees in Enju in one of the screenshots with some golden leaves hanging down, so I'm starting to get the impression that the Tin Tower area will be really autumn-like. (The reason why is something we need to find out.)
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Wel if you check the burnt tower shot the tree is half gold and green so it seems they will transition it in somehow. I say this cause we will pop into some gold looking area near the tin tower from a gold green treed area. Pretty sweet if you ask me.
 
Battle tower confirmed. Sorta. Kinda. Okay its a damn outline that's all!

=D Sorry for the title and how I had a monologue rant there. *cough*
https://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090615_hgss_johto-karte.jpg
If you zoom in a lot(max if you will) where the clouds are next to Olivine over the old tower area you can clearly see an outline of a tower. Now look here:
https://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy36/MyNameIsGoddess/tower.png
Its even more clear! So do you think they will fit only the tower or 5 full facilties? I believe that either 3 spaced out facilties will be in or 5 of them cramped together. I wouldn't mind the cramped part as well less time to get around and I would love 5 facilties.
 
I'd take anything, honestly. If there's anything more than the tower, awesome, if not, I'll live.

As a BT maniac, I love the sight of that image. <3

[ I don't think the first link works properly, btw. o.o I just see the site logo ]
 
Yeah sorry I realised that a while a go just go to filb and search for the map. Funny it works for the linker but not the viewers.
https://www.filb.de/1083
Anyway yeah anything will do but I can see it happening. A frontier that is. And hey this is clicking in with crystal features being added.*pokes Suicunes ledge in Cianwood*. But that's not the topic! If a frontier is added what would the facilties be and such?
 
The Pokemon Factory is just about guaranteed if there will be a Frontier, and there just has to be a Battle Tower. However, I'm not gonna get my hopes up too much.
 
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