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5th Gen Official Rumours Thread

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He thinks its real because of their source. The guy that posted these has made guesses and leaked information about other systems and features for Black and White that has been confirmed to be true. The one that wrote the news on Serebii sees this info as creditable because the guy wasn't wrong before.

We just have to wait and see.
 
These are not that good. They better be fake. The mijumaru final evo looks nothing like a fighting type (Which is the most likely type it is) I am calling fake. These were possibly made by those guys who made those fake scans last month
 
rocky505 said:
These are not that good. They better be fake. The mijumaru final evo looks nothing like a fighting type (Which is the most likely type it is) I am calling fake. These were possibly made by those guys who made those fake scans last month
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No one said Mijumaru was going to be a Fighting type. The final stages could be single typed for all we know.
 
XanderO said:
No one said Mijumaru was going to be a Fighting type. The final stages could be single typed for all we know.
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No but it makes sense given what we know about it. Having it turn into a random dog thing makes no sense.
 
XanderO said:
No one said Mijumaru was going to be a Fighting type. The final stages could be single typed for all we know.
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I did not say it was going to be a fighting type I said it is most LIKELY a fighting type. It learns a fighting move and had a samurai type position in the new anime series preview those point to fighting type.
 
Yeah they're most likely fake.

They're on laminated drawing paper. Nintendo does not release stuff on laminated drawing paper.

Mijumaru's supposed final evolution looks nothing like it. At all.
Pokabu's supposed final just looks stupid. And looks Fire/Fighting and if it is I will go postal.
Tsutaja's is the only tolerable one for me. And it does look like a Grass Milotic.
 
SwiftSign said:
Actually, they aren't. The poses are different, look at the tail, direction of head, etc. Small details like the thickness of the body are different as well, especially the 'front' section below the head.



Similar fingers, not the same. Other Pokémon also have similar fingers, such as Metang.



Not identical at all, the 'new' one has much of a seal-like structure to its legs, especially how they are splayed out how Dialgas are not. The tail joins at a different position too.

There are always similarities between Pokémon, poses are often recycled since these are ANIME art not SPRITE art anyway.

I even stated in my post that I don't think they are real anyway, despite all the above. I think the odd colouration of the water evolutions (2nd and 3rd) as well as Pokabu's evolution seeming more cartoony than normal as more important factors.
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No you missed my point. the basic shapes of the sprites are the same, For instance, the whale thing is a quadrupedal design that looks exactly like dialga's. The Basic, shape design, not the irrelevant little features. like color, etc. those obviously are going to be changed so it isn't a dead giveaway as a fake. Those pictured supposed evolutions are obviously derived from milotic, rhyperior, and Dialga.
 
Surmonter said:
No but it makes sense given what we know about it. Having it turn into a random dog thing makes no sense.
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We don't really know anything about it though. We know its a Water Type and has two new attacks. It has a water type Slash and Water Oath. That doesn't really lead to it being a Fighting type.

The Pig IMO has a better chance at being a Fighting Type.

From different talks I've had most of the people I talked to say
Tsutaja would be Grass/Electric or Grass/Dragon
Pokabu would become Pure Fire or Fire/Fighting
Mijumaru would be pure Water or Water/Ice

We can voice opinions on typing but nothing has been declared as official by Nintendo or Game Freak concerning the evolutions. Even the beta art hasn't been confirmed to be their official forms.

The guy on Serebii simply said that the source for this pictures has made accurate leaks before on Black and White's new features and systems. No one knows if the above is fake and we can't just say "Oh they are fake." just because of how we feel about them. Zekrom and Reshrim were raged about the same way. They look like Digimon by their coloring techniques and the way they are built.

Now I really don't like any of these save Mijumaru's Evolution. Tsutaja's reminds me of Melaficent and Pokabu looks like something from Disney and then transforms into Jimbee from One Piece. I'm hoping that these aren't official myself but no one can say for certain what is fake and what is real until Game Freak says so or the original Artists comes out and says they were fake.

Seeing as the news guy for Serebii trusts the info, I'm going to wait for an official announcement.


rocky505 said:
I did not say it was going to be a fighting type I said it is most LIKELY a fighting type. It learns a fighting move and had a samurai type position in the new anime series preview those point to fighting type.
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Scyther and Kabutops have swords for arms and Scyther's style in the Anime is based off of Japanese sword styles. Neither of them is fighting type.

Mijumaru's attacks that have been presented are Shell Blade (Possibly renamed later in American Version) and Water Oath. I can't find anything of Mijumaru learning Fighting attacks so could you link me to their videos?
 
According to PokeJungle, the guy who released them confessed they were fake. Suck it.
 
XanderO said:
We don't really know anything about it though. We know its a Water Type and has two new attacks. It has a water type Slash and Water Oath. That doesn't really lead to it being a Fighting type.

The Pig IMO has a better chance at being a Fighting Type.
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I just posted 2 reason's why it can be a fighting type. It can learn a fighting move revenge and it had a samurai position in the anime preview.
 
rocky505 said:
I just posted 2 reason's why it can be a fighting type. It can learn a fighting move revenge and it had a samurai position in the anime preview.
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By your two points Scyther is Fighting type as well. It has sword poses and sword styles due to the blades on its arms.

As for Revenge. Only 13 Pokemon can learn it from the Previous Gen.

8 are fighting and the non-fighting are: Pinsir, Qwilfish, Cacturne, Weavile, and Regigigas.
 
Dudes the creator said they were fake so we can stop speculating if they are true or not as they are fake
 
If there isn't another topic for Starter Evolutions' Discussion, we could convert this to that.

I do have a question though. What is 2ch? I've seen it mentioned on Serebii and this time on Pokejungle (Never seen Pokejungle until today.) So I'm curious as to how to get onto 2ch.
 
XanderO said:
By your two points Scyther is Fighting type as well. It has sword poses and sword styles due to the blades on its arms.

As for Revenge. Only 13 Pokemon can learn it from the Previous Gen.

8 are fighting and the non-fighting are: Pinsir, Qwilfish, Cacturne, Weavile, and Regigigas.
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Scyther is based on a bug with wings doesn't speak fighting type. And for the revenge thing you just screwed yourself over half of the pokemon are fighting types which strengthens Mijumaru's hopes of a fighting type.
 
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rocky505 said:
Scyther is based on a bug with wings doesn't speak fighting type. And for the revenge thing you just screwed yourself over half of the pokemon are fighting types which strengthens Mijumaru's hopes of a fighting type. though this seems like it is off topic.
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Its not off topic now that its in rumors :P
 
rocky505 said:
Scyther is based on a bug with wings doesn't speak fighting type. And for the revenge thing you just screwed yourself over half of the pokemon are fighting types which strengthens Mijumaru's hopes of a fighting type. though this seems like it is off topic.
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Um...No it doesn't. Quilfish learns revenge. Even if over half learn it, most are shared lines, that doesn't mean that it will absolutely be fighting type.

Aura Sphere is learned by 1 fighting type. Does that mean that any new Pokemon with it will 100% be fighting?

Hammer Arm isn't learned by Any fighting type Pokemon at all.

Move type association doesn't mean that Pokemon will be that type.

Phanpy a Ground Type Pokemon learns NO ground type attacks naturally. Let me correct myself. It doesn't learn any Ground type attacks at all.

As for Wings, Flygon has Wings and is a Ground Type. That's a little odd don't you think? Clefairy have wings and so does Dunsparce. Neither are flying type.

You can't assume its going to be a specific type by the moves it learns.
 
XanderO said:
Um...No it doesn't. Quilfish learns revenge. Even if over half learn it, most are shared lines, that doesn't mean that it will absolutely be fighting type.

Aura Sphere is learned by 1 fighting type. Does that mean that any new Pokemon with it will 100% be fighting?

Hammer Arm isn't learned by Any fighting type Pokemon at all.

Move type association doesn't mean that Pokemon will be that type.

Phanpy a Ground Type Pokemon learns NO ground type attacks naturally. Let me correct myself. It doesn't learn any Ground type attacks at all.

As for Wings, Flygon has Wings and is a Ground Type. That's a little odd don't you think? Clefairy have wings and so does Dunsparce. Neither are flying type.

You can't assume its going to be a specific type by the moves it learns.
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You are right the moves a pokemon learns don't mean anything on their type really.
 
XanderO said:
Um...No it doesn't. Quilfish learns revenge. Even if over half learn it, most are shared lines, that doesn't mean that it will absolutely be fighting type.

Aura Sphere is learned by 1 fighting type. Does that mean that any new Pokemon with it will 100% be fighting?

Hammer Arm isn't learned by Any fighting type Pokemon at all.

Move type association doesn't mean that Pokemon will be that type.

Phanpy a Ground Type Pokemon learns NO ground type attacks naturally. Let me correct myself. It doesn't learn any Ground type attacks at all.

As for Wings, Flygon has Wings and is a Ground Type. That's a little odd don't you think? Clefairy have wings and so does Dunsparce. Neither are flying type.

You can't assume its going to be a specific type by the moves it learns.
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I swear you are taking this too seriously. Flygon has levitate, Dunsparce learns roost. Clefairy has wings because it's based on a fairy. Scyther is based on a praying mantis with a little bit of reptilian features in it. It is not based on a samurai like Mijumaru most likely will be based on as it evolves. It's evolution even looks like a fighting type.
 
rocky505 said:
I swear you are taking this too seriously. Flygon has levitate, Dunsparce learns roost. Clefairy has wings because it's based on a fairy. Scyther is based on a praying mantis with a little bit of reptilian features in it. It is not based on a samurai like Mijumaru most likely will be based on as it evolves. It's evolution even looks like a fighting type.
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Its evolution looks like a water type. I don't see any features of Fighting type that other fighting types have which is usually clothes or something that relates them to their fighting style.

Its Beta Art is still also unconfirmed as the official version.
 
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