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Original 151 Team - Your Thoughts?

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Silverman

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    Hey guys, I am kicking it old school. I have always enjoyed my Pokemon Blue over a lot of the other releases. I am currently play Platinum (waiting for Soul Silver) and want you to take a look at my team. I decided to keep my team old school and use Pokemon #1 to #151.

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    EDIT - New Moves
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    SNORLAX
    Body Slam
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Selfdestruct
    Leftovers / Thick Fat / Adamant
    Atk 252 / HP 6 / Sp. Def 252

    GENGAR
    Substitute
    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast
    Hypnosis
    Leftovers / Levitate / Timid
    Sp. Atk 252 / Spe 252 / HP 6

    RAICHU
    Thunderbolt
    Hidden Power Ice
    Grass Knot
    Focus Blast
    Choice Specs / Static / Timid
    HP 6 / Spe 252 / Sp. Atk 252

    VENUSAUR
    Sleep Powder
    Leech Seed
    Energy Ball
    Sludge Bomb
    Leftovers / Overgrow / Bold
    HP 252 / Def 6 / Sp. Def 252

    BLASTOISE
    Surf
    Rapid Spin
    Toxic
    Ice Beam
    Leftovers / Torrent / Bold
    HP 252 / Def 252 / Sp. Atk 6

    CHARIZARD
    Flare Blitz
    Earthquake
    Dragon Dance
    Roost
    Life Orb / Blaze / Adamant
    HP 252 / Spe 6 / Sp. Def 252
     
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    No no no! Snorlax doesn't want Psychic. Un-STAB Psychic is pretty much useless. Gengar doesn't want Physical moves like Sucker Punch. Get rid of Hyper Beam on Raichu it's set-up fodder for your opponent only Porygon-Z can pull that off and even on that it's still set-up fodder the same goes for Giga Impact on Snorlax. Pretty much using EQ on Pokemon with Special attackers is bad unless they're a suitable mixed sweeper Earth Power is the Special equivalent of EQ. Also without any Rapid Spin support you can forget about using Charizard.

    Also a sweeper wants to be EV'd in Attack or Special Attack depending on what end of the spectrum it attacks from usually and in Speed. There are some exceptions to this so check Smogon before you decide to use any certain Pokemon. You also failed to provide Your Pokemon's specific EV spread, their natures, and a brief description of what they do on the team. We need that info to give you a proper rate.
     
    Well, your going to want entry hazards so that you can help with sweeping. And, also, what natures do you have on all your pokemon? It makes big difference.
     
    Put that all into the first post so it's easier to see. =|
     
    Silverman said:
    Hey guys, I am kicking it old school. I have always enjoyed my Pokemon Blue over a lot of the other releases. I am currently play Platinum (waiting for Soul Silver) and want you to take a look at my team. I decided to keep my team old school and use Pokemon #1 to #151.

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    EDIT - New Moves
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    SNORLAX
    Body Slam
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Selfdestruct
    Leftovers / Thick Fat / Adamant
    Atk 252 / HP 6 / Sp. Def 252

    Good, just this doesn't make a good lead to be honest.

    GENGAR
    Substitute
    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast
    Hypnosis / Hidden Power Fire
    Leftovers / Levitate / Timid
    Sp. Atk 252 / Spe 252 / HP 6

    Hypnosis' accuracy is pretty shaky, but I guess.

    RAICHU
    Thunderbolt
    Hidden Power Ice
    Grass Knot
    Focus Blast
    Choice Specs / Static / Timid
    HP 6 / Spe 252 / Sp. Atk 252

    I would say outclassed by Jolteon, Zapdos, and the like but Raichu is able to kill Tyranitar with Focus Blast.

    VENUSAUR
    Sleep Powder
    Leech Seed
    Energy Ball
    Sludge Bomb
    Leftovers / Overgrow / Bold
    HP 252 / Def 6 / Sp. Def 252

    If this works.

    BLASTOISE
    Surf
    Rapid Spin
    Toxic / Foresight
    Ice Beam / Foresight
    Leftovers / Torrent / Bold
    HP 252 / Def 252 / Sp. Atk 6

    Foresight to ensure that you get to spin rocks because Rotom-A can be a big pain.

    CHARIZARD
    Flare Blitz
    Earthquake
    Dragon Dance
    Roost
    Life Orb / Blaze / Adamant
    HP 252 / Spe 252 / Sp. Def 4

    Most special moves will do tons to you anyway (see: Water, Electric, Dragon, etc), and Charizard really needs the speed if he wants to sweep. Charizard doesn't have the typing to be a good bulky set up sweeper.
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    Comments in bold ↑, couldn't find much moveset errors so that's good.

    Also, you might want a Stealth Rock user to stop Gyarados and Salamence (both of which tear apart your team).

    Might come back for a threat check if I'm not too busy.
     
    ᴏᴏᴋᴀᴍɪ said:
    Comments in bold ↑, couldn't find much moveset errors so that's good.

    Also, you might want a Stealth Rock user to stop Gyarados and Salamence (both of which tear apart your team).

    Might come back for a threat check if I'm not too busy.
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    Interesting, I see what you mean.
    I will make most of your changes!
     
    Stealth Rock is absolutely necessary. It keeps the metagames top threats from swicthing in too freely. Your Charizard loses 50% of it's HP each time it switches into Stealth Rock which is why you need a Rapid Spinner if you wish on using it.

    Snorlax wants Curse somewhere probably. Choice Specs would be a good item for because Gengar is a bit frail more so on the Physical side but you wouldn't run Sub on that kind of set.

    Another option for Charizard is Belly Drum but that takes mighty good prediction to pull off.
     
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    FreakyLocz14 said:
    Your Charizard loses 50% of it's HP each time it switches into Stealth Rock which is why you need a Rapid Spinner if you wish on using it.
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    Silverman said:
    BLASTOISE
    Surf
    Rapid Spin
    Toxic
    Ice Beam
    Leftovers / Torrent / Bold
    HP 252 / Def 252 / Sp. Atk 6
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    What's this then?

    FreakyLocz14 said:
    Snorlax wants Curse somewhere probably.
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    Not every Snorlax needs Curse to be effective.

    FreakyLocz14 said:
    Choice Specs would be a good item for because Gengar is a bit frail more so on the Physical side.
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    Choice Specs Gengar sucks now mainly because of Pursuit users being everywhere, and in general Life Orb / Leftovers Sub is much better. It can be used, it just really isn't that viable.
     
    My original 151 line up was made up of the level 100 super Pokemon of this generation before the battery died.

    Pokemon Red

    Mew
    Mewtwo
    Dragonite
    Moltres
    Articuno
    Zapados

    This line up was bad against a ghost/anti-flying line up but it was very powerful and I did not loose a battle. It was a bit cheap though as it had the strongest pokemon in the game.

    I still have my yellow version working and I restarted it. Now I got.

    Level 36 - Pikachu
    Level 36 - Charizard
    Level 27 - Mew
    Level 35 - Kangaskhan
    Level 31 - Snorlax
    Level 25 - Pidgeotto

    I like the line up but I hope to replace Pidgeotto with Moltres before the pokemon league.
     
    Damn dude this thread is almost a year old... o.o

    Please don't revive threads over a month old, thanks. Check out the In-Game forum if you want to post your team and get some feedback.

    *closed*
     
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