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    ok i watched this show called "the lost book of nostradamus" & it depicts our future i dont know if its true, it predicted the 9/11 disaster & the assasination of kings in the past century it also gives an exact date to when we are all called to god :2012
    what are your thoughts, are we ignorong the signs?
     
    I thought we had a thread like this. xD

    Don't believe 'em, it's not true.
     
    I can't wait for "doom" day when nothing happens. I'll be sitting on my front porch drinking tea if you need me.
     
    Nostradamus never predicted 9/11, some sick scaremongerer spread this rumour through chain emails hours after the attacks.
     
    Didn't we just have a thread like this before? XD
    I actually kinda do believe the Mayan Calendar...12/12/2012.
    I don't believe it'll just happen; humans will make it happen.
     
    Nostradamus never predicted 9/11, some sick scaremongerer spread this rumour through chain emails hours after the attacks.
    What he wrote could be reasoned out to mean something like a 9/11 event. But that's exactly what you have to do, reason something out.
    Liar. You'll be in front of your computer eating cheese based snacks.
    No reason I can't do both, eh? xD

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    Seriously though, this is just another Y2K like scare so people will buy stuff.
     
    I don't think Nostradamus or the Mayans were interested in merchandising benefits :P

    Well no, but do you know how much money stores like Walmart made off of the whole Y2K thing?

    I can see that towards the supposed date of our doom, stores will be perpetuating this to make some cash.
     
    I don't think Nostradamus or the Mayans were interested in merchandising benefits :P

    Actually the concept behind the Mayan catastrophe prediction was only ever published in the 1960s... By 2 New Age theorists, one of which abused drugs. I hardly consider either of their points rational or worth believing.
    No ancient Mayan text has specifically claimed the 2012 thing itself.

    But that's exactly what you have to do, reason something out.
    I'd like a rational and non-biased, logical reason as to how predictions work and occur first. -.-
     
    I'd like a rational and non-biased, logical reason as to how predictions work and occur first. -.-
    You can reason out something to mean something entirely different from its intended purpose.

    I will say, for example, that I don't like sitting. Someone could take that as meaning I don't like chairs. But that's just a very simply example.

    Going off topic...back to talking about how our total doom has been predicted by a bunch of indians living in the jungle.
     
    This is all a bunch of nonsense... people believed the Armageddon would occur in 2000 and guess what it did not. These theories were probably conjured up in order make money... For all we know the people who supposedly predicted these things (If people in present times did not conjure the predictions up) were probably on drugs or something...
     
    Listen, didn't everyone think that 2000 was gonna be the world's end? Was it? No, 2012 is the same thing as 2000, and other dates that people thought the world would end.
    I get what the people are trying to say, 12/12/12. Will be the last same numbered date until 3000. Since there is no 13th month, there won't be any: 12/12/12, again until 3000. So by that, people think the world will end? What are their excuses for 1912, 1812, etc?
    Trust me, the world will not end. It's just a big fat fib, of course we all won't be alive then, but I assure you that when 3000 hits, everyone will think that 3012 will be the worlds end. Then 1000 years later, everyone will think 4012 will be the worlds end. Do you see my pattern? XD
     
    Can we get some references?
    Oh and how specific are these predictions?
    Anyone can predict anything through the magic of ambiguity.
     
    2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order.

    Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing event will take place in 2012:

    * The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth.
    * The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere.

    Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include:

    * Terence McKenna's numerological novelty theory suggests a point of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift in consciousness.

    ccording to the Popol Vuh, a book compiling details of creation accounts known to the K'iche' Maya of the Colonial-era highlands, we are living in the fourth world.[8] The Popol Vuh describes the first three creations that the gods failed in making and the creation of the successful fourth world where men were placed. In the Maya Long Count, the previous creation ended at the start of a 13th b'ak'tun.

    The previous creation ended on a long count of 12.19.19.17.19. Another 12.19.19.17.19 will occur on December 20, 2012, followed by the start of the thirteenth b'ak'tun, 13.0.0.0.0, on December 21, 2012.[9]

    Significance within the New Age movement

    Two figures within the New Age, the artist and theorist José Argüelles and the late ethnobotanist and psychonaut Terence McKenna, have publicized theories concerning the significance of the end of the cycle. (They arrived at their conclusions separately from one another.) They have jointly inspired a number of articles and books that this will be the end of this creation, the next pole shift or, as McKenna speculated in his theories, the end of history and events as "novel" as the origin of life on Earth, which we could not possibly imagine. Other, more mundane speculations involve a worldwide catastrophe, such as a pole shift. The idea of the significance of the date has also increasingly passed into popular culture.

    Refutation

    In this age we are approaching the same count again, only there is a common misconception of the Maya's practice of abbreviating their dates to five vigesimal places. According to the Maya there will be a baktun ending in 2012, a significant event being the end of the 13th 394 year period, but not the end of the world.[10]

    Inscriptions beyond 2012

    Maya stelae occasionally show dates beyond 2012. Most of these are in the form of "distance dates", where a Long Count date is given with a distance date to be added. For example, on the Tablet of Inscriptions from Palenque the following Long Count date was found: 9.8.9.13.0 8 Ahau 13 Pop (24 March 603 Gregorian) with a distance date of 10.11.10.5.8. The resulting date is given as 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol,[11] or 21 October 4772 – almost 3,000 years into the future. The king Pacal of Palenque predicted that on this date the eightieth Calendar Round anniversary of his accession will be celebrated, suggesting he did not believe the world would end in 2012.[12]

    Summary

    Despite the publicity generated by the 2012 date, Susan Milbrath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, stated that "We [the archaeological community] have no record or knowledge that [the Maya] would think the world would come to an end" in 2012.[13]

    "For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc. in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."[14]

    Calculating a full Long Count date

    Just a bunch of New Age Crap, can't wait to see how ridiculous all these New Age Cults are going to look for freaking out on that day.

    Can we get some references?
    Oh and how specific are these predictions?
    Anyone can predict anything through the magic of ambiguity.
    To put it to you in Layman's Words, Some calender drawn thousands of years ago ends on December 12, 2012. Its also when all the planets are to align in a near perfect alignment with each other.
     
    Try listening to Skeptoid, it's a rather good weekly podcast about these such "truths", this episode is especially relavent to the discussion
     
    All this stuff? To me, It's not gonna happen. I'm not worried. Just a bunch of crap. reading this topic, the mayans predicted all that stuff a waaaay looong time ago. and maybe the dudes who wrote the calendar maybe didn't feel like going any further, and people freaked out. again, im not worried.
     
    Listen, didn't everyone think that 2000 was gonna be the world's end? Was it? No, 2012 is the same thing as 2000, and other dates that people thought the world would end.
    6/6/2006 actually. Was funny when nothing happened.

    Like 666, this what I'll dub "12 12 12" won't be anything amazing. It'll just be an average... uh, whatever day of the week it happens to be.
     
    to me this whole business of predicting the end of the world is a big bunch of phooey. I don;t think anything will happen so I'm going to treat it as a normal day/year. If something does happen then I won't be here anyway. So my final word's on the subject are to the world, Bring It!
     
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