physical or special water type?

bossman34

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    i cant decide between swampert and vaporeon/starmie. not milotic because it is so OU and has many counters.
    on my team i have arcanine, umbreon, gallade, and metagross so far. and other than arcanines flamethrower there is no other special type moves. i will list there moves if u want.

    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Brave
    252 atk/128 hp/128 def
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake
    -Waterfall
    -Avalanche

    or

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Timid
    252 spd/252 sp.atk/4 hp
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Psychic/Recover/Substitute/Confuse Ray

    or

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Calm/Bold/Modest
    ???
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Wish
    -Protect/Fake Tears

    all comments are appreciated.
     
    umbreon is support(mean look/baton pass)
    arcanine is mixed(flamethrower/extremespeed/crunch/thunder fang)
    metagross is physical(agilitigross)
    gallade is physical(bulk up/night slash/psycho cut/CC)

    i think vaporeon for tanking purposes. suggestions?
     
    i cant decide between swampert and vaporeon/starmie. not milotic because it is so OU and has many counters.
    on my team i have arcanine, umbreon, gallade, and metagross so far. and other than arcanines flamethrower there is no other special type moves. i will list there moves if u want.

    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Brave
    252 atk/128 hp/128 def
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake
    -Waterfall
    -Avalanche

    or

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Timid
    252 spd/252 sp.atk/4 hp
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Psychic/Recover/Substitute/Confuse Ray


    or

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Calm/Bold/Modest
    ???
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Wish
    -Protect/Fake Tears

    all comments are appreciated.

    Starmie. Your team lacks the sp. sweeper(cept Mr. Arcanine), which means Skarmory or Steelix can butt in and give you quite a pain XD

    Take Psychic, its a STAB move, and Starmie doesn't have the defense to pull off a recover, and substitute, anything to go w/ that? Confuse Ray is just too risky (although VERY VERY annoying XD)
     
    thanks alot. i will take starmie into consideration
     
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