Pikachu's Level

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    Don't you think by this point in the series, that Pikachu would be in at least his 80's (level-wise), and be able to knock out much of the competition in one or two hits? I highly doubt the other Trainers have Pokemon that are able to match Pikachu if he is indeed at that level.
     
    Levels, as far as I know don't actually exist in the anime. There was that one episode that mentioned a pokemon was a higher level then pikachu, but that was a dub line. And as you all know, never trust anything like that when you hear it in the dub. There is a different concept of levels though.

    That version has nothing to do with exp. points or anything, it just has to do with the level of actual experince that a pokemon has gained from battle, not stats or anything of the sort.
     
    Yeah, It's like in real life. You may have experiance, but you don't gain levels. And experiances are just things that happen. Exp. and leveling up are elements if role playing games that will make you stronger as you go through the game, and the Pokemon anime is more real life, and not a game.
     
    In real life it isn't leveled. But, for fun, what do you think his level would be?
     
    I look at it this way. Your average Pokemon game has a max level of 100. Normally, the Pokemon you use often end up close to Level 70 at the end of each game.

    Using game mechanics and removing the cap on Levels (which the Anime already did by removing them), it is safe to conclude that if the show followed the game mechanics, technically Pikachu would be around Level 200 at the end of Hoenn.

    This is with respect to Blue who doesn't believe in Levels, I am only saying this assuming they actually bring Levels into it again. (The new story writers don't use them anymore.)

    Of course, a cheap way for them to do this is to take a Power Reading on Pikachu. That is, how much more powerful he has gotten since the beginning. If they do this any time in Hoenn, I believe they would get a reading of 200.
     
    Logmon1 said:
    Well in G/C/G he was LV. 80 something. So he is probuly at lest 95.
    If you actually played GSC, you'd know that ISN'T Satoshi. That's RED.

    Glad to see that you guys know that levels don't exist in the anime. @_@ Usually, I have to go through a big explanation that whenever level is mentioned, they refer to level of power, rather than a numeral level.
     
    Well, whatever. But logic dictates with all of the battling he's done, he should still be infinitely stronger than most of the Pokemon they face.
     
    Not entirely. Strength isn't always the key to battles. We've seen that when Krab beat a well trained Nashi (Exeggutor) quite easily. It's simply the fact that you never know what to expect with some of the way newer trainers battle. Such as Pikachu vs Yarukimono (Vigoroth). Satoshi had no idea what the thing could do.
     
    But let's take this into account; Pikachu has many times fainted Ground Pokemon (the only specific example I can think of at this time is the Golem in Mewtwo Strikes Back) with his Electric attacks.

    Is see what you're getting at with the Vigoroth battle, but that doesn't say anything for the dozens of generic trainers that Pikachu's lost against.
     
    Remember that Rock-types normally don't have the Ground-type played into the anime. They simply recognize that Rock-types are hard to beat with Electric-types, not that they're invulnerable to them.
     
    Experience would be defined as how many times a Pok?mon has actually taken part of (or observed) the way that the show is. Levels don't seem to exist in the show. Considering that Ash would have to know what to tell Pikachu or the other of his Pok?mon to succeed in battle. It seems like the experience belongs to the trainers themselves and not their companions.

    Just for the fun of things, if Pikachu had a level, it be pretty high, although it doesn't show it. In my opinion, Pikachu's holding back. There's no strong evidence of this, so don't try to look for it!

    Did they really get rid of complete type advantages? A.K.A. Moves that don't affect the Pok?mon period? I remember that Dark types are still impervious to Psychic attacks. Remember Gary's Umbreon? It took on a full Psychic attack from an Alakazam.
     
    In the anime, Rock-types never were invulnerable to Electric-types because they shared more Rock than Ground characteristics. Type advantages and disadvantages are still there. It's just that pretty much every Rock-type with the 2nd types being Ground-types in the games were apparently made to be only Rock-types.
     
    Level isn't the only factor. Defense and attack are key factors too. I reckon Pikachu's defense is really low.
     
    ive thought that once but they only evidence of lvls in anime is when theirs that place and theirs a cumbone. the woman said something about lvls but its just like gender, theirs no gender in anime either. the game has to have some thing different, right?
     
    Uh..there IS gender in the anime. o_O Explain the lovey dovey episodes with Nidoran x Nidoran/Nidorino x Nidorina or Volbeat x Illumise. Can't forget Nyaasu getting his heart broken by the female Nyaasu who decided to go with a Persian. ;\
     
    Elite Trainer Raven said:
    If you actually played GSC, you'd know that ISN'T Satoshi. That's RED.

    Glad to see that you guys know that levels don't exist in the anime. @_@ Usually, I have to go through a big explanation that whenever level is mentioned, they refer to level of power, rather than a numeral level.
    In my game his name is Ash. :surprised
     
    Elite Trainer Raven said:
    Not entirely. Strength isn't always the key to battles. We've seen that when Krab beat a well trained Nashi (Exeggutor) quite easily. It's simply the fact that you never know what to expect with some of the way newer trainers battle. Such as Pikachu vs Yarukimono (Vigoroth). Satoshi had no idea what the thing could do.


    You are right about not entirely. Pikachu is only beginning to control the weather. And Trainer experience does indeed factor into the equation. Actually it can be the very core of battles.

    (Like, the extra little red bar in Grandia that tells how long it takes your people to do something you tell them to do.)

    This is why I originally made a topic about using an ATB meter in the Pokemon games, but most of the people who posted in that topic somehow got that confused for Zelda (oO)... But that's another story.
     
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