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Plat OU Team Quick

Aezuth

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    • Seen Aug 21, 2009
    [FONT=&quot]Intro: I like quick pokes, so the general idea is to use a quick and aggressive team. I've tried to also keep a decent amount of bulk in the team, but the major component is that after the switch in, my pokes will normally be getting the drop on their targets.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]The Team:[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Gliscor @ Leftovers[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Impish[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sand Veil[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Stealth Rock[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Roost[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Earthquake[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Stone Edge[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Gliscor has always been one of my favourites, and IMO makes a solid Lead. I really don't like the idea of suicide leads, so I figure I'd give a defensive Gliscor a go. I'm really not that bothered with my opponents getting stealth rock up, most of my pokes are neutral anyways. [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]
    Azelf @ Expert Belt[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Timid[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Levitate[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]42 HP[/FONT][FONT=&quot] / 252 SpA / 216 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Nasty Plot[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Flamethrower[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Psychic[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]HP (Fighting)[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] I'm not THAT sold on Azelf. My main reason for including him was to add another ground immunity to balance the team a bit more, but at the same time, to add a bit of early sweep to the mix. I'm a little concerned that he'll just end up as pursuit bait, though most pursuit users he should be able to do significant damage to before being taken down.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]
    Zapdos @ Leftovers[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Calm[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Bold[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Pressure[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]248 HP / 228 SpA / 32 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Thunderbolt[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]HP (Ice) / U-Turn / Thunder Wave[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Heat Wave[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Roost[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] Zappy is for a bit of Scizor resist, as well as some general physical bulkiness. I'm not totally sure on what would be the best moveset here, but I'm looking towards a bit of counter and wall.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Kingdra @ Leftovers[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Adamant[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Swift Swim[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Waterfall[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Outrage[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Rain Dance[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Dragon Dance[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] Not much to explain here. Can easily switch in on one of his resists to start doing some nasty damage. I went double dance so I can get rid of sandstorm when it's being a bother, Kingdra doesn't need too much move diversity anyways.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Jolteon @ Choice Specs[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Naive[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Volt Absorb[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]24 HP / 252 SAtk / 232 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Thunderbolt[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Shadowball[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]HP Grass[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Baton Pass[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Revenge Killer, Not sure if this might be better as a Scarf user, but I figured it probably wouldn't have the damage output to OHKO a lot of the threats anyways.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Scizor @ Choice Band[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Adamant[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Technician[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Superpower[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]U Turn[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Bullet Punch[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Pursuit[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Scizor is a powerhouse, I think he deserves a spot on basically every team. He's definitely not quick like the rest, but bullet punch easily makes up for it.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]I don't really want to say too much about my thoughts on the team as a group of individuals, so I don't give too much bias towards what my own personal views are, but I just wanted to say there were a few popular pokes that I see being quite a big problem. First thing that I worry that dragons that get the drop on kingdra are most likely going to just sweep this team because as I said before, Tentacruel isn't really a counter...[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]No PHazers or REALLY bulky pokes also makes DDancers quite nasty and capable of sweeping the entire team. I'm concerned it might be a bit TOO much on the physically fragile side still.[/FONT]
     
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    Of most psychics Azelf is prolly the least Pursuit bait.

    Anyways i really dont like Life Orb on Azelf or Grass Knot.

    A. Life Orb makes it easy to wear down and not taking recoil actually really helps it, especially vs Scizor's BP and other priority etc.
    B. Grass Knot really kinda sucks, NP Psychic does a crap load to bulky waters anyway.

    Use HP Fight so you arent Heatran bait and you also actually can KO tar. :/ lol

    [PokeCommunity.com] Plat OU Team Quick
    @Expert Belt **He is a cute mod. ;]
    42 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
    Timid Nature
    - Nasty Plot
    - Flamethrower
    - Psychic
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]

    216 SPEED beats max speed Gengar and Latias.

    72.09% - 85.05% → Scizor's CB Bullet Punch vs this spread. Never a OHKO even with SR and SS up, this also lets you live a CB Weaviles Pursuit if you stay in, but "lol Weavile".

    Baton Pass is really helpful on Jolteon >> Signal Beam, it allows to scout your counters and acts like a U-Turn. It also lets you escape Pursuit if you are in on a bad match up, something which i discovered only the other day.

    I dont see what Tenta is doing, i would like to see something more productive in that slot, e.g. a better Scizor counter here maybe. You are pretty weak to that really, Jolteon really takes a battering vs SD LO Bullet Punches despite resisting the move. ~_~

    Just some thoughts here, i might come back for a better rate later but im cut short for time.
     
    Thanks for the feedback! I love the changes to Azelf, I feel a lot more confident with that. it certainly holds it's own a lot better against pursuit users.

    anyways, here's what I was looking at for a team Revision:

    [FONT=&quot]Gliscor @ Leftovers[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Impish[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Sand Veil[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Stealth Rock[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Roost[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Earthquake[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Stone Edge[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]
    Azelf @ Expert Belt[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Timid[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Levitate[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]42 HP[/FONT][FONT=&quot] / 252 SpA / 216 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Nasty Plot[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Flamethrower[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Psychic[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]HP (Fighting)[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]
    Zapdos @ Leftovers[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Bold[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Pressure[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]248 HP / 228 SpA / 32 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Thunderbolt[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]HP (Ice) / U-Turn / Thunder Wave[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Heat Wave[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Roost[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Kingdra @ Leftovers[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Adamant[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Swift Swim[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Waterfall[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Outrage[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Rain Dance[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Dragon Dance[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Jolteon @ Choice Specs[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Naive[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Volt Absorb[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]24 HP / 252 SAtk / 232 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Thunderbolt[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Shadowball[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]HP Grass[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Baton Pass[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Scizor @ Choice Band[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Adamant[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Technician[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Superpower[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]U Turn[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Bullet Punch[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Pursuit[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]-[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    I replaced Tentacruel with zappy to take care of Scizor. It was really a toss up between Gyara and Him. I'm kinda undecided on whether to carry HP Ice to take care of my dragon weak, U turn to switch out of tough spots, but I'm definitely leaning towards Thunder Wave to add some status to the team and catch out a lot of sweepers (Especially DDers). I'm just hoping him and Jolts aren't stepping on each others toes too much.
     
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