Please help me with my team.

gleepdiddly

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    Blissey@Leftovers
    Bold Nature
    252 Def., 252 Sp.Def., 6 HP
    -Aromatherapy
    -Seismic toss
    -softboiled
    -thunder wave
    Natural Cure

    Skarmory@Shed Shell
    Impish Nature
    252 HP, 156 Def, 96 Atk.
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Spikes
    -Roar
    Keen Eye

    Rhyperior@???
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 156 HP, 96 Def.
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Megahorn
    -Stone Edge
    Solid Rock

    Heatran@Choice Specs
    Modest Nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Sp. Def
    -Flamethrower
    -Earth Power
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Dark Pulse
    Flash Fire

    Garchomp@Life Orb
    Jolly Nature
    252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Def
    -Swords Dance
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Claw
    -Fire Fang
    Sand Veil

    Infernape@???
    Naive Nature
    252 Spd, 128 Sp. Atk., 128 Atk
    -Nasty Plot
    -Grass Knot
    -Close Combat
    -Flare Blitz
    Blaze

    Thanks!
     
    Thank you! Someone else who actually does a smart Blissey EV spread. =)
    A little nit-pick, but go 20HP / 252Def / 12Spd / 224SpDef. That my friend is the best Blissey spread.


    For Heatran, go with Fire Blast>Flamethrwoer to 2HKO Cress. A neutral Fire Blast does more than a supper effective Dark Pulse btw. Stick in a Hidden Power [Grass/Ice/Electric] or Explosion to go out with a bang. 40HP / 216Spd / 252SpAtk is a better EV spread.

    Give Rhyperior Leftovers.


    Garchomp should have 16HP / 252Atk / 240Spd as the EV spread. It wants Substitute over Fire Fang.


    Infernape needs 24Atk / 232Spd / 252SpAtk and with Flamethrower>Flare Blitz. Give it Life Orb.




    Gyarados weak.
     
    I always thought flamethrower>fire blast because of the inaccuracy. Also, how will I be able to kill a gyarados without changing pokemon?
     
    I DO have a lot of fire, so I could go for stone edge on gar. I can easily get f-thrower/fire blast TMs, so I could do some experimenting. Also, why does bliss need speed?
     
    A little nit-pick, but go 20HP / 252Def / 12Spd / 224SpDef. That my friend is the best Blissey spread.
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    No, that's just lack of sense. HP always comes before defenses, and we BOTH know that Blissey does not need all of that Sp. Defense when it's already running off of 306 SDef to begin with.

    gleepdiddly said:
    Blissey@Leftovers
    Bold Nature
    212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
    -Aromatherapy
    -Seismic toss
    -softboiled
    -thunder wave
    Natural Cure
    Moveset is fine, EVs weren't.

    Skarmory@Shed Shell
    Impish Nature
    208 HP / 216 Def / 84 Atk
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Spikes
    -Whirlwind
    Keen Eye
    Go find yourself a Staravia and breed Whirlwind onto it.

    Rhyperior@Choice Band
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 252 HP
    -Avalanche
    -Earthquake
    -Megahorn
    -Stone Edge
    Solid Rock
    Rhyperior sucks at Stealth Rock. It's much better as a wrecking ball CB Attacker.

    Heatran@Choice Scarf
    Timid Nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 224 Spd, 32 HP
    -Flamethrower
    -Earth Power
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Hidden Power (Electric)
    Flash Fire
    Heatran is too slow to use Choice Specs. Either Scarf it, or beef it with Defense and HP.

    Garchomp@Choice Scarf
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 SAtk
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Claw / Outrage
    -Fire Blast
    Sand Veil

    Infernape@Expert Belt / Life Orb
    Naive Nature
    92 Atk / 232 Spd / 184 SAtk
    -Nasty Plot
    -Grass Knot
    -Close Combat
    -Fire Blast
    Blaze
    Better EVs. Needs Fire Blast for Skarmory optimization.

    Thanks!
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    Has the biggest Gyarados weakness in the world. Electivire also poses a threat, and 95% of the time, Gyarados and Electivire are on the same team =(

    And you can't kill Gyarados without changing Pokemon. You REALLY can't kill Gyarados if it has a Dragon Dance on its belt.
     
    There is no significant difference between 656HP and 714HP. HP is of the least importance to Blissey. My spread, 20HP / 252Def / 12Spd / 224SpDef @ Calm nature, is the best Blissey spread, fact.




    Does your EVs stop SpecsLuke Aura Sphere from 2HKOing you? Does it stop Flash Fired SpecsHeatran Fire Blast from 2HKOing you? Does it stop SpecsGar Focus Blast from 2HKOing you? Does it stop Nasty Plot Togekiss Aura Sphere from 2HKOing you? Does it stop MS Zapdos Thunderbolt 2HKOing you? Does it stop Modest Nasty Plot Life Orb Adaptabilty PorygonZ Hyper Beam from 0HKOing you?

    Come back and we'll talk whenever your "ideal" EV spread meets those special attacking threats.
     
    And has it occured to you that even with your SDef EVs, all they'll do is end up using said Metal Sound or Nasty Plot TWICE?

    And with no defense or HP EVs, it's not taking Physical Hits very well at all. And tell me one thing, who uses Choice Specs when it doesn't have the Speed OR the Defense to abuse it with?
     
    flamehaze, I'm going to be blunt because it's been made clear to me that those who frequent this section feel the same: your attitude has been far from stellar. We don't doubt you have a vast amount of knowledge on Pokemon Battling. -- We can see that by your usual workable sets with the explanations to back them up. However, there are differing opinions, and you need to accept that. So stop with the:

    It's a fact.
    The only truth.

    You get the picture. Just post your move set, include your explanation and move on. If you continue this attitude, there will be consequences. Thank you.
     
    How do I do a formal quote?

    Blissey@Leftovers
    Bold Nature
    212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
    -Aromatherapy
    -Seismic toss
    -softboiled
    -thunder wave
    Natural Cure
    Moveset is fine, EVs weren't.
    Can't decide who's EVs to use...

    Skarmory@Shed Shell
    Impish Nature
    208 HP / 216 Def / 84 Atk
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Spikes
    -Whirlwind
    Keen Eye
    Go find yourself a Staravia and breed Whirlwind onto it.
    Is there even a difference between roar and whirlwind?

    Rhyperior@Choice Band
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 252 HP
    -Avalanche
    -Earthquake
    -Megahorn
    -Stone Edge
    Solid Rock
    Rhyperior sucks at Stealth Rock. It's much better as a wrecking ball CB Attacker.
    Okay...
    Heatran@Choice Scarf
    Timid Nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 224 Spd, 32 HP
    -Flamethrower
    -Earth Power
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Hidden Power (Electric)
    Flash Fire
    Heatran is too slow to use Choice Specs. Either Scarf it, or beef it with Defense and HP.
    Sorry, bad HP. any other options?

    Garchomp@Choice Scarf
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 SAtk
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Claw / Outrage
    -Fire Blast
    Sand Veil
    this guy was supposed to be physical, so why FB?

    Infernape@Expert Belt / Life Orb
    Naive Nature
    92 Atk / 232 Spd / 184 SAtk
    -Nasty Plot
    -Grass Knot
    -Close Combat
    -Fire Blast
    Blaze
    Better EVs. Needs Fire Blast for Skarmory optimization.
    Kay.
     
    Infernape cant use fire blast well, if it misses its screwed basically and Flamethrower will ohko Skarmory regardless =/

    Infernape@Life Orb
    Naive Nature
    252 SP.ATT / 232 SPEED / 24 ATT
    - Nasty plot / Hidden power Ice / Hidden power Electric
    - Flamethrower
    - Grass Knot
    - Close Combat

    Ohkos Skarmory and Blissey.


    Now for fire blast on Garchomp (who is bulky enough to miss and doesnt get STAB therefore Fire blast is better than Flamethrower), its there for steels who resist your main move, outrage, it allows you to get rid of them and sweep and does more to Skarmory and Forretress than fire fang will.
     
    Ok. Here's how my team goes now...

    Blissey@Leftovers
    Bold Nature
    212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
    -Aromatherapy
    -Seismic toss
    -softboiled
    -thunder wave
    Natural Cure

    Skarmory@Shed Shell
    Impish Nature
    208 HP / 216 Def / 84 Atk
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Spikes
    -Whirlwind/roar(no difference)
    Keen Eye

    Rhyperior@Choice Band
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 252 HP
    -Avalanche
    -Earthquake
    -Megahorn
    -Stone Edge
    Solid Rock

    Heatran@Choice Scarf
    Timid Nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 224 Spd, 32 HP
    -Flamethrower
    -Earth Power
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Explosion
    Flash Fire

    Garchomp@Choice Scarf
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 SAtk
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Claw
    -Fire Blast
    Sand Veil

    Infernape@Life Orb
    Naive Nature
    92 Atk / 232 Spd / 184 SAtk
    -Nasty Plot
    -Grass Knot
    -Close Combat
    -Fire Blast
    Blaze
     
    Actually whirlwind can switch while roar can't on pokes with soundproof.
     
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