Pokemon Ibento!

[キラキラ]

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Game Name: Pokemon Ibento
Made with: RPG Maker XP + Pokemon Essentials

[a id]features[/a id]

• Based in a completely new region of Banshou, where many characters from other regions visit/live
• The game is completely in it's own alternate timeline. Events from other sources may or may not have happened prior to the story
• New quest system has you doing all kinds of interesting stuff and gives you access to places you didn't have before.
• Side-quests based on events from the anime/manga(s)
• Johto/Kanto are heavily featured in the game, with revamped locations and towns/cities exclusive to the anime/manga(s)
• Day/Night system (Of course)
• Revamped music
• The Banshou Pokedex features about 200 Pokemon, with more becoming available late in-game.
• Promo Pokemon can be obtained using special passwords
• HG/SS style menu (Yet to be implemented)
• Custom Battle graphics
• New attacks, TM's, and items
• Mini-games that will be accessible from any Wii in-game (Yet to be implemented)
• The Gym Challenge is only a side-quest, not a main part of the game!
• If you do collect all badges, the Pokemon League will be tournament style, like the anime

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• You play as Gold, a teenager who recently moved to the Banshou region from Johto. You start off in your hometown of Chepsa City, walking around with your friends, Lyra and Silver. Silver says that he wants to explore a nearby forest for a mysterious Pokemon he's heard about. Lyra doesn't feel good about it, since none of the three have any Pokemon to protect them, but agrees to follow. When they reach the forest they witness a scene of two men in dark clothing battling a Pokemon. When the men notice the kids they get distracted, and the Pokemon escapes. Frusterated, the men come after the group, but a Pokemon Trainer named Janine intervenes, causing the men to back off and leave.
  
• Janine recommends that the three kids become Pokemon Trainers. She tells them that she has an old friend in the Johto region that can give them each a Pokemon. Without hesitation, Silver and Lyra jump at the idea. Janine walks them to Sinnea Town, where there is a ferry to Johto. On the ferry, Janine tells them that those men they saw were members of a group called Team Rocket. She also explains her plan to form a group of trainers to stop the crimes of Team Rocket someday.
  
• When you arrive at Johto, Janine takes you to Professor Elm's laboratory, in New Bark Town. After the proper introductions, Professor Elm let's you each choose one Pokemon out of a set of three, with each trainer choosing from a different set. Silver chooses a Sneasel, and Lyra chooses a Marril. Your choices are between Chikorita, Cyndaquil, and Totodile. Professor Elm explains that the road most trainers take is collecting enough badges to challenge the Pokemon League. The group sets their sights on that goal, and return to Chepsa City with Janine.
  
• The group splits up, thinking it would be fun to see who can get three badges first. Silver takes off right away, but Lyra stays a little while to become friends with her Marril. Gold takes off to Sinnea Town, where the first Gym is located. After getting two badges, Gold runs into a injured Pokemon. After healing its wounds, you notice that it cannot use any attacks in battle. You take the Pokemon back to Janine to see if she knows anything about what could be wrong.
  
• Janine believes it to be the work of Team Rocket's cruel experiments with Pokemon. She explains that she sent in spies to collect information on Team Rocket a few months back, and learned what they were planning directly from the boss himself. Team Rocket is researching a Pokemon that was known to be extinct, and was too evasive and powerful to capture when it was alive. They go after Celebi to discover how to time-travel, so they can genetically recreate the ancient Pokemon using its DNA and slightly modifying it so it can be controlled. When they have that Pokemon, Team Rocket could control the world and nobody would be able to stand up to them.
  
  She calls Silver and Lyra over to the lab with her Pokegear, and asks the three of them to join her group (?). This group of Pokemon Trainers help others in need, as well as counter Team Rocket's plans. She lets them know that they won't be doing the big missions until they are better trainers, and that those missions will be left to the Gym Leaders that have joined the group. Janine tells Gold that the Pokemon he found should stay with him until they find a way to reverse the effects Team Rocket placed on it.

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Mapping

Spoiler:

Mapping has hit a bit of a restart due to a change in tileset. All previous maps have to be remade.
I will soon upload images of my maps here, for you guys to rate/critique.
Banshou
Chepsa City
Chepsa Cavern
Sinnea Town
Mintflower Town

Johto
New Bark Town

Kanto
Pallet Town
Xanadu Nursery
Pallet Forest

Eventing

Spoiler:

I just restarted all eventing. I will begin eventing when I complete a few more maps and finalize the plot.

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A little note, the routes will NOT be called Route A, B, etc. Those are just temporary names.
The grass problem on Route "A" is now fixed. Thank you KingCharizard.

Spoiler:

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[a id]team[/a id]

• Kirakira - Project Leader/Eventer/Mapper

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[a id]recruitment[/a id]

I can't do this alone!
We need:

• Spriters - Must be able to make HG/SS standard overworld sprites
• Spriters - Good quality in-battle trainer sprites.
• RGSS Scripters - Custom Menu System, HG/SS style as well. Single screen preferably.

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[a id]credits[/a id]

• Gamefreak/Creatures/Nintendo - For creating Pocket Monsters!
• Kyledove - Tiles
• Alucas - Tiles
• Newtiteuf - Tiles
• Alistair - Tiles
• VGMusic - Sounds and Music
• Poccil - RMXP Starter Kit
• Help-14 - Unown Puzzle script
• HOBOGames - Unown Puzzle modification
• PokemonPlatnum/Wichu - Mystery Gift Script
  If I have missed anyone please let me know!

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[KingCharizard]

Well First I dont think a gold would just be friends with steven, or janine if they are adults. Nor do I think the story makes any sense. For example you said they other games mangas ect dont exist so why make a few regions and characters exist? Then steven just knows oak? How and again why is he hanging out with a kid? The reason most ppl use existing characters and what not is cause they are already created have a backstory and a reputation. You cant use steven and say he never existed as champion unless this is gonna take place before Red & Blue. Your graphics look ok but could use some work , but overall this is good work keep it up.

 

[キラキラ]

Well First I dont think a gold would just be friends with steven, or janine if they are adults. Nor do I think the story makes any sense. For example you said they other games mangas ect dont exist so why make a few regions and characters exist? Then steven just knows oak? How and again why is he hanging out with a kid? The reason most ppl use existing characters and what not is cause they are already created have a backstory and a reputation. You cant use steven and say he never existed as champion unless this is gonna take place before Red & Blue. Your graphics look ok but could use some work , but overall this is good work keep it up.

Thank you for the CC, it's appreciated.

The graphics in the screenshot have already been updated to HGSS standard until we get a custom tileset. I'll make more screenies soon.

What I mean by the other anime/manga/game sources "not existing" is that this is a completely alternate storyline, events from those sources might still occur, but in slightly different ways. Imagine the events caused by the Player Characters in other games have not occured. Steven would still be the Champion of Hoenn, in this case.

Gold doesn't just "know" Steven and Janine. Janine meets you in the classic Professor Oak intro explaining Pokemon and introduces you to the Banshou Region. Steven is vacationing in Chepsa Town, and decides to introduce himself to the player.

I have updated the storyline part of this thread. Hopefully it makes more sense.

 

[Bards Sword]

Thank you for the CC, it's appreciated.

The graphics in the screenshot have already been updated to HGSS standard until we get a custom tileset. I'll make more screenies soon.

What I mean by the other anime/manga/game sources "not existing" is that this is a completely alternate storyline, events from those sources might still occur, but in slightly different ways. Imagine the events caused by the Player Characters in other games have not occured. Steven would still be the Champion of Hoenn, in this case.

Gold doesn't just "know" Steven and Janine. Janine meets you in the classic Professor Oak intro explaining Pokemon and introduces you to the Banshou Region. Steven is vacationing in Chepsa Town, and decides to introduce himself to the player.

I have updated the storyline part of this thread. Hopefully it makes more sense.

Not really.

The infamous "Professor Oak" conversation is not really Oak talking to your character. In game, he never acknowledges it, and besides, that means in later generations, the fabled prof. doesn't even know your gender. So, the beginning conversation is not in character.

As for Steven, if you were an adult, vacationing in a town, would you stop by a random pre-teen and talk to him. Of course not. That makes no sense. Steven has to have a well defined reason for talking to a stranger.

On top of that, the 'Dex Holders sounds like a pokemon fan club, not an elite team of trainers.

 

[キラキラ]

Not really.

The infamous "Professor Oak" conversation is not really Oak talking to your character. In game, he never acknowledges it, and besides, that means in later generations, the fabled prof. doesn't even know your gender. So, the beginning conversation is not in character.

As for Steven, if you were an adult, vacationing in a town, would you stop by a random pre-teen and talk to him. Of course not. That makes no sense. Steven has to have a well defined reason for talking to a stranger.

On top of that, the 'Dex Holders sounds like a pokemon fan club, not an elite team of trainers.

You know, I was thinking the same thing about "'Dex Holders". Kind of a lame name but it's a placeholder until I think of something else.

Okay, I will make Steven just a part of the elite team instead of a "friend" from the beginning, then make Janine encounter the character in-game instead of the intro.

Updates/corrections will come later tonight.

 

[Mrchewy]

I would have to agree in that the story is incredibly uncreative and lackluster. It's not interesting in any way; you've got your typical "young hero off on an adventure to fill his Pokédex and defeat Team Rocket" plot here and to be frank, we've seen it hundreds of times before.

The screenshots are also quite disappointing. There's spelling errors and tiling errors in quite a few of them.

 

[キラキラ]

I would have to agree in that the story is incredibly uncreative and lackluster. It's not interesting in any way; you've got your typical "young hero off on an adventure to fill his Pokédex and defeat Team Rocket" plot here and to be frank, we've seen it hundreds of times before.

The screenshots are also quite disappointing. There's spelling errors and tiling errors in quite a few of them.

Spelling errors?
Anyways, as stated in the thread those screenshots are old.
That isn't all the storyline is about, more like an introduction. But you guys can go ahead be harsh on it if you want until I can properly explain it or the demo is released.

Thanks.

 

[KingCharizard]

Were not trying to be mean it just doesn't make sense... It just seems highly unlikely, and I like the "thinking out of the box" type idea but yours is out of this world thinking... Every game in some way uses logic, and your just haven't grasped the logical part yet...

 

[キラキラ]

Were not trying to be mean it just doesn't make sense... It just seems highly unlikely, and I like the "thinking out of the box" type idea but yours is out of this world thinking... Every game in some way uses logic, and your just haven't grasped the logical part yet...

No I understand that you guys aren't being mean. I just failed at trying to say what I needed to say. I'm making lots of edits, so maybe by tomorrow or the next day this thread will have a different storyline summary. I'm already three gyms into the game, but what needs to be changed won't be hard to do this far into the game.
Like I said, I appreciate constructive criticism. Makes me try a lot harder if anything.

EDIT: Oh, and I already rearranged and dropped the whole Steven thing. You guys are definitely correct that he probably wouldn't randomly introduce himself to some kid without any Pokemon.

I think how the story outline is right now makes sense, it just lacks detail as to what actually goes on in the story. I'll fix it.

 

[Mrchewy]

We have a right to be harsh if what's presented isn't up to par, regardless if it's current or not. We can only rate what we see, so the age of the screensbots is irrelevant. If you don't think what you've posted as of now best reflects your game in it's current state then you may as well have this thread deleted.

 

[KingCharizard]

We have a right to be harsh if what's presented isn't up to par, regardless if it's current or not. We can only rate what we see, so the age of the screensbots is irrelevant. If you don't think what you've posted as of now best reflects your game in it's current state then you may as well have this thread deleted.

Wow man you okay lately seem kinda frusterated, your posts have been more direct... I understand about being bold & direct but u used to try to remain objective from what I thought...

 

[Mrchewy]

Lol, I'm not frustrated at all KingCharizard; in fact I'm off work for another week. I'm just trying to be as honest as possible. In my eyes, this game so far looks really quite bad. Others may disagree, but I just think improvements could be made.

 

[PokemonPlatnum]

Lol, I'm not frustrated at all KingCharizard; in fact I'm off work for another week. I'm just trying to be as honest as possible. In my eyes, this game so far looks really quite bad. Others may disagree, but I just think improvements could be made.

In all seriousness, people who make fangames have a life. They are not making it for your personal enjoyment they are making it because it makes them happy. Of course, a person wants to make the game as good as possible but if you start bashing someones game it gets alot harder to do so. Perhaps suggest the "improvements" and make the game better :)

On Topic: I think the game looks great :) Just maybe a few plot changes here and there. Otherwise, fantastic game.
-PP

 

[KingCharizard]

In all seriousness, people who make fangames have a life. They are not making it for your personal enjoyment they are making it because it makes them happy. Of course, a person wants to make the game as good as possible but if you start bashing someones game it gets alot harder to do so. Perhaps suggest the "improvements" and make the game better :)

On Topic: I think the game looks great :) Just maybe a few plot changes here and there. Otherwise, fantastic game.
-PP

I agree with your first statement we do have lives, but if your gonna make a game you make it for the players not yourself but, you should have fun in the process. 'd have to agree with Mr Chewy this game isn't good but it isn't that bad either with some work you can make this very good. Keep at it man...

 

[キラキラ]

Thank you for being honest guys. And I really appreciate the helpful comments.

What do you guys think of the new story?

I restarted all eventing and am currently just working on finishing mapping until the final story is determined.

 

[Mrchewy]

In all seriousness, people who make fangames have a life. They are not making it for your personal enjoyment they are making it because it makes them happy. Of course, a person wants to make the game as good as possible but if you start bashing someones game it gets alot harder to do so. Perhaps suggest the "improvements" and make the game better :)-PP

Ah, see, taking any negative critique and calling it bashing is a bit rash, don't you think? Sure I'd could say "wow, good work" to everyone and we'd all live in a happy world of ignorance, but I don't. The thing is, by posting a thread in these forums you are no longer just making a game for yourself; you're sharing it with others, and with that comes other people's opinions. Am I going to say "good work, you're great, keep it up" just to make the developer happy? No, because that's just not what I think.

Suggest some improvements? Certainly; a fair request, especially given that I admittedly didn't have the time to cite more specific problems I found earlier.

• The revised story, while it flows much more nicely, is still a little basic and could benefit from the inclusion of an extra plot dimension; just having Team Rocket as the only antagonists is still fairly unoriginal, and certainly not very interesting. The plot also raises some questions, notably why Team Rocket would try to catch Celebi in order to... catch another legendary Pokemon. Seems completely illogical to me.
• At the moment, you game offers very little in the way of features. Side quests are always good, as is the inclusion of Mystery Gifts, but are those the only things you plan on implementing? What about updates to the interface or battle system? Battling is certainly enjoyable and all, but what other activities will the players partake in?
• Unfortunately and somewhat ironically, your screenshots are all broken, so I can't give more specific critique. From what I do remember though, your mapping seriously needs work. I'd really suggest looking over Nintendo maps to see how to improve.
• The inclusion of all 493 Pokemon is a bit questionable, in my opinion, especially if 4th Gen attacks/abilities aren't implemented. Wouldn't a smaller Regional Dex be easier for both you and the players? 200 or so is really the most I'd try to catch if I were playing and while people might prefer having hundreds and hundreds to hunt down and catch, I'd certainly find it tedious.

 

[キラキラ]

Ah, see, taking any negative critique and calling it bashing is a bit rash, don't you think? Sure I'd could say "wow, good work" to everyone and we'd all live in a happy world of ignorance, but I don't. The thing is, by posting a thread in these forums you are no longer just making a game for yourself; you're sharing it with others, and with that comes other people's opinions. Am I going to say "good work, you're great, keep it up" just to make the developer happy? No, because that's just not what I think.

Suggest some improvements? Certainly; a fair request, especially given that I admittedly didn't have the time to cite more specific problems I found earlier.

• The revised story, while it flows much more nicely, is still a little basic and could benefit from the inclusion of an extra plot dimension; just having Team Rocket as the only antagonists is still fairly unoriginal, and certainly not very interesting. The plot also raises some questions, notably why Team Rocket would try to catch Celebi in order to... catch another legendary Pokemon. Seems completely illogical to me.
• At the moment, you game offers very little in the way of features. Side quests are always good, as is the inclusion of Mystery Gifts, but are those the only things you plan on implementing? What about updates to the interface or battle system? Battling is certainly enjoyable and all, but what other activities will the players partake in?
• Unfortunately and somewhat ironically, your screenshots are all broken, so I can't give more specific critique. From what I do remember though, your mapping seriously needs work. I'd really suggest looking over Nintendo maps to see how to improve.
• The inclusion of all 493 Pokemon is a bit questionable, in my opinion, especially if 4th Gen attacks/abilities aren't implemented. Wouldn't a smaller Regional Dex be easier for both you and the players? 200 or so is really the most I'd try to catch if I were playing and while people might prefer having hundreds and hundreds to hunt down and catch, I'd certainly find it tedious.

1. Like I said, the story can always change. Plus, this is just the what happens at the start of the game, not the entire story. What's wrong with TR going after Celebi first? Their main goal is the ancient Pokemon, and that's the only way that they know of to obtain it.
2. Of course there will be more than that, I just haven't implemented anything else yet. Should I list features that are "planned" to be in the game?
3. I fixed the screenshots, I made a newbie mistake in copying the e-mail links instead of direct image links.
4. I agree, I'll shorten down the regional dex.

Thanks man, I don't think it's bashing, just honest critique. I can handle it.

 

[KingCharizard]

Also I think I should suggest you fix your grass to have the bush(~) tag so your not walking on it.

 

[キラキラ]

Also I think I should suggest you fix your grass to have the bush(~) tag so your not walking on it.

Ah, thank you. I was wondering how to fix that.

 

[Mrchewy]

Your new screenshots do show considerable improvement. Your tiles are quite unique, and for the most part are quite effective. There's a small tiling error on the cave entrance, and some tiles (notably the long grass and the bushes) seem a bit too 'saturated' to fit in with the other tiles you're using. Apart from that, its certainly looking better.

Let me re-iterate my confusion: what exactly are Team Rocket's motives here? I understand they want to capture a Legendary Pokemon to... what, take over the world? Well, seems appropriate I guess, but there's certainly easier ways of doing it. If they're going to capture Celebi and use it to travel through time, then why don't they just travel back to the beginning of civilization and build it to their liking? In fact, if you're give Team Rocket the ability to travel through time, aren't you effectively making them invincible? If the hero is about to thwart their plans, can't just just turn back the clock and hour or two and ambush him before he can do so? Time travel opens up a lot of plot holes. I suppose you could impose limits, like they can only harness of much of Celebi's energy of some stuff like that, but its still a bit silly.

Oh, you should definitely list any planned features you've got in mind, as this is after all the planning forum. It doesn't matter if you've actually implemented them yet.

Edit: Hold on, I just re-read your plot and I'm even further confused. They're travelling back in time so they can obtain the DNA/Fossil/Fragment of a Pokemon which died only slightly further back in time, but instead of just travelling back to when it was alive, they go through the effort of obtaining its DNA and genetically recreating it? Why on earth would they not just catch it when it was alive? This makes absolutely no sense. At first the plot seemed implausibly, but now it seems just absurd and rushed. Pokemon plots aren't ever supposed to be incredibly in-depth, but what you've got here is really dodgy.