Pokemon V

[Drahcir]

Please tell me what you think of these minor changes to a Pokemon red/blue game I want to eventually make, it would allow the capture of every pokemon and some extras without trading. Other changes would include six attack options and up to four types where two don't cover it.

POKEMON V

Pokemon: 001 Bulbasaur: Seed pokemon. Transforms at level 16. Type: Grass/Poison.

002 Ivysaur: Sapling pokemon. Transforms at level 32. Type: Grass/Poison.

003 Venusaur: Forest pokemon. Type: Grass/Poison.

004 Charmander: Lizard pokemon. Transforms at level 16. Type: Fire.

005 Charmeleon: Raptor pokemon. Transforms at level 36. Type: Fire/Dragon.

006 Charizard: Wyvern pokemon. Type: Fire/Dragon/Flying.

007 Squirtle: Tiny turtle pokemon. Transforms at level 16. Type: Water.

008 Wartortle: Turtle pokemon. Transforms at level 36. Type: Water.

009 Blastoise: Giant turtle pokemon. Type: Water.

010 Caterpie: Silk worm pokemon. Transforms at level 7. Type: Bug.

011 Metapod: Pupa pokemon. Transforms at level 10. Type: Bug.

012 Butterfree: Butterfly pokemon. Type: Bug/Flying.

013 Weedle: Hairy worm pokemon. Transforms at level 7. Type: Bug/Poison.

014 Kakuna: Cocoon pokemon. Transforms at level 10. Type: Bug/Poison.

015 Beedrill: Hornet pokemon. Type: Bug/Poison/Flying.

016 Pidgey: Tiny bird pokemon. Transforms at level 18. Type: Flying/Normal.

017 Pidgeotto: Bird pokemon. Transforms at level 36. Type: Flying/Normal.

018 Pidgeot: Roc pokemon. Type: Flying/Normal.

019 Rattata: Rodent pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Normal.

020 Raticate: Rat pokemon. Type: Normal.

021 Spearow: Sparrow pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Flying/Normal.

022 Fearow: Hoatzin pokemon. Type: Normal/Flying.

023 Ekans: Snake pokemon. Transforms at level 22. Type: Poison.

024 Arbok: Cobra pokemon. Type: Dark/Poison.

025 Pikachu: Field mouse pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Electric.

026 Raichu: Large mouse pokemon. Type: Electric.

027 Sandshrew: Armadillo pokemon. Transforms at level 22. Type: Ground.

028 Sandslash: Hedgehog pokemon. Type: Ground.

029 Nidoran (female): Baby rhinoceros pokemon. Transforms at level 16. Type: Poison/Normal.

030 Nidorina: Monoceros pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Poison/Ground.

031 Nidoqueen: Unicorn pokemon. Type: Ground/Poison.

032 Nidoran (male): Baby rhinoceros pokemon. Transforms at level 16. Type: Poison/Normal.

033 Nidorino: Monoceros pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Poison/Ground.

034 Nidoking: Unicorn pokemon. Type: Ground/Poison.

035 Clefairy: Fairy pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Fairy.

036 Clefable: Pixie pokemon. Type: Fairy/Normal.

037 Vulpix: Fox pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Fire.

038 Ninetales: Kitsune pokemon. Type: Fire.

039 Jigglypuff: Fairy pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Normal/Fairy.

040 Wigglytuff: Pixie pokemon. Type: Normal/Fairy.

041 Zubat: Bat pokemon. Transforms at level 22. Type: Poison/Flying.

042 Golbat: Carrion bat pokemon. Type: Poison/Flying.

043 Oddish: Scallion pokemon. Transforms at level 21. Type: Grass/Poison.

044 Gloom: Stinkweed pokemon. Transforms at level 40. Type: Poison/Grass.

045 Vileplume: Flower pokemon. Type: Poison/Grass.

046 Paras: Mushroom pokemon. Transforms at level 24. Type: Bug/Grass.

047 Parasect: Fungus pokemon. Type: Bug/Poison/Grass.

048 Venonat: Insectoid pokemon. Transforms at level 31. Type: Bug/Poison.

049 Venomoth: Moth pokemon. Type: Bug/Flying/Poison.

050 Diglett: Mole pokemon. Transforms at level 26. Type: Ground.

051 Dugtrio: Mole pokemon. Type: Ground.

052 Meowth: Cat pokemon. Transforms at level 28. Type: Normal.

053 Persian: Mountain lion pokemon. Type: Normal.

054 Psyduck: Duckling pokemon. Transforms at level 33. Type: Water/Psychic.

055 Golduck: Elwetritsch pokemon. Type: Psychic/Water.

056 Mankey: Monkey pokemon. Transforms at level 28. Type: Fighting.

057 Primeape: Ape pokemon. Type: Fighting.

058 Growlithe: Puppy pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Fire.

059 Arcanine: Shishi pokemon. Type: Fire.

060 Poliwag: Tadpole pokemon. Transforms at level 25. Type: Water.

061 Poliwhirl: Polliwog pokemon. Transforms at level 40. Type: Water.

062 Poliwrath: Amphibian pokemon. Type: Fighting/Water.

063 Abra: Psionic pokemon. Transforms at level 16. Type: Psychic.

064 Kadabra: Psionic pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Psychic.

065 Alakazam: Psionic pokemon. Type: Psychic.

066 Machop: Karate pokemon. Transforms at level 28. Type: Fighting.

067 Machoke: Wrestling pokemon. Transforms at level 50. Type: Fighting.

068 Machamp: Muay thai pokemon. Type: Fighting.

069 Bellsprout: Garden flower pokemon. Transforms at level 21. Type: Grass/Poison.

070 Weepinbell: Flycatcher pokemon. Transforms at level 40. Type: Grass/Poison.

071 Victreebel: Giant flycatcher pokemon. Type: Grass/Poison.

072 Tentacool: Jellyfish pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Water/Poison.

073 Tentacruel: Kraken pokemon. Type: Water/Poison.

074 Geodude: Rock pokemon. Transforms at level 25. Type: Rock/Ground.

075 Graveler: Stone pokemon. Transforms at level 40. Type: Rock/Ground.

076 Golem: Boulder pokemon. Type: Rock/Ground.

077 Ponyta: Horse pokemon. Tansforms at level 40. Type: Fire.

078 Rapidash: Karkadann pokemon. Type: Fire.

079 Slowpoke: Dopey pokemon. Transforms at level 37. Type: Water/Psychic.

080 Slowbro: Dopey pokemon. Type: Water/Psychic.

081 Magnemite: Magnet pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Steel/Electric.

082 Magneton: Lodestone pokemon. Type: Steel/Electric.

083 Farfetch'd: Wild duck pokemon. Type: Flying/Normal.

084 Doduo: Dual emu pokemon. Transforms at level 31. Type: Normal/Flying.

085 Dodrio: Trio ostrich pokemon. Type: Normal/Flying.

086 Seel: Sea lion pokemon. Transforms at level 34. Type: Water.

087 Dewgong: Elephant seal pokemon. Type: Ice/Water.

088 Grimer: Mud pokemon. Transforms at level 38. Type: Poison.

089 Muk: Sludge pokemon. Type: Dark/Poison.

090 Shellder: Mollusk pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Water.

091 Cloyster: Conch pokemon. Type: Water/Ice.

092 Gastly: Specter pokemon. Transforms at level 25. Type: Ghost.

093 Haunter: Wraith pokemon. Transforms at level 40. Type: Ghost/Dark.

094 Gengar: Shadow pokemon. Type: Dark/Ghost.

095 Onix: Stone basilisk pokemon. Type: Rock/Ground.

096 Drowzee: Hypnosis pokemon. Transforms at level 26. Type: Psychic.

097 Hypno: Hypnosis pokemon. Type: Psychic.

098 Krabby: Crab pokemon. Transforms at level 28. Type: Water.

099 Kingler: King crab pokemon. Type: Water/Ice.

100 Voltorb: Orb pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Electric/Steel.

101 Electrode: Ball pokemon. Type: Electric/Steel.

102 Exeggcute: Egg pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Grass/Psychic.

103 Exeggutor: Coconut pokemon. Type: Grass/Psychic.

104 Cubone: Dino-skull pokemon. Transforms at level 28. Type: Ground.

105 Marowak: Dino-skull pokemon. Type: Ground/Dragon.

106 Hitmonlee: Taekwondo pokemon. Type: Fighting.

107 Hitmonchan: Boxing pokemon. Type: Fighting.

108 Lickitung: Tongue pokemon. Type: Normal.

109: Koffing: Toxic gas pokemon. Transforms at level 35. Type: Poison.

110 Weezing: Toxic gas pokemon. Type: Poison.

111 Rhyhorn: Rhinoceros pokemon. Transforms at level 42. Type: Ground/Rock.

112 Rhydon: Bicornis pokemon. Type: Ground/Rock.

113 Chansey: Nurse pokemon. Type: Normal.

114 Tangela: Vine pokemon. Type: Grass.

115 Kangaskhan: Pachyosaur pokemon. Type: Ground/Normal.

116 Horsea: Seahorse pokemon. Transforms at level 32. Type: Water.

117 Seadra: Seahorse pokemon. Type: Water/Dragon.

118 Goldeen: Goldfish pokemon. Transforms at level 33. Type: Water.

119 Seaking: Koi pokemon. Type: Water/Poison.

120 Staryu: Starfish pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Water.

121 Starmie: Starfish pokemon. Type: Psychic/Water.

122 Mr. Mime: Clown pokemon. Type: Fairy/Psychic.

123 Scyther: Mantis pokemon. Type: Bug/Fighting/Flying.

124 Jynx: Succubus pokemon. Type: Psychic/Ice/Ghost/Dark.

125 Electabuzz: Thunder tiger pokemon. Type: Electric/Fighting.

126 Magmar: Fire duck pokemon. Type: Fire.

127 Pinsir: Stag beetle pokemon. Type: Bug.

128 Tauros: Bull ox pokemon. Type: Normal.

129 Magikarp: Carp pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Water.

130 Gyarados: Leviathan pokemon. Type: Dragon/Water.

131 Lapras: Plesiosaur pokemon. Type: Water/Ice/Dragon.

132 Ditto: Transformation pokemon. Type: Normal.

133 Eevee: Adaptive pokemon. Transforms at level 10. Type: Normal.

134 Flareon: Adaptive pokemon. Transforms at level 20. Type: Fire.

135 Vaporeon: Adaptive pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Water.

136 Jolteon: Adaptive pokemon. Type: Electric.

137 Porygon: Polygonal pokemon. Type: Normal.

138 Omanyte: Nautilus pokemon. Transforms at level 40. Type: Water/Rock.

139 Omastar: Nautilus pokemon. Type: Water/Rock.

140 Kabuto: Horseshoe crab pokemon. Transforms at level 40. Type: Rock/Water/Bug.

141 Kabutops: Trilobite pokemon. Type: Rock/Water/Fighting/Bug.

142 Aerodactyl: Pterosaur pokemon. Type: Flying/Rock.

143 Snorlax: Lazy pokemon. Type: Normal.

144 Articuno: Icebird pokemon. Type: Flying/Ice.

145 Zapdos: Thunderbird pokemon. Type: Flying/Electric.

146 Moltres: Firebird pokemon. Type: Flying/Fire.

147 Dratini: Dragon pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Dragon.

148 Dragonair: Dragon pokemon. Transforms at level 55. Type: Dragon.

149 Dragonite: Dragon pokemon. Type: Dragon/Flying.

150 Mewtwo: Genetically engineered pokemon. Type: Psychic/Normal.

151 Mew: Unknown pokemon. Type: Fairy/Psychic.

152 Chikorita: Sauropod pokemon. Transforms at level 16. Type: Grass.

153 Bayleef: Brachiosaur pokemon. Transforms at level 32. Type: Grass/Dragon.

154 Meganium: Behemoth pokemon. Type: Dragon/Grass.

155 Cyndaquil: Echidna pokemon. Transforms at level 14. Type: Fire.

156 Quilava: Mongoose pokemon. Transforms at level 36. Type: Fire.

157 Typhlosion: Honey badger pokemon. Type: Fire.

158 Totodile: Caiman pokemon. Transforms at level 18. Type: Water.

159 Croconaw: Crocodile pokemon. Transforms at level 30. Type: Water.

160 Feraligatr: Alligator pokemon. Type: Water.

Gym Leaders: Brock: Geodude lvl 2; Onix lvl 3; Kabuto lvl 4; Graveler lvl 5; Kabutops lvl 6; Golem lvl 7.

Misty: Squirtle lvl 7; Psyduck lvl 8; Poliwag lvl 9; Wartortle lvl 10; Poliwhirl lvl 11; Blastoise lvl 12.

Lt. Surge: Pikachu lvl 12; Magnemite lvl 13; Voltorb lvl 14; Raichu lvl 15; Magneton lvl 16; Electrode lvl 17.

Erika: Bulbasaur lvl 17; Oddish lvl 18; Bellsprout lvl 19; Ivysaur lvl 20; Weepinbell lvl 21; Venusaur lvl 22.

Sabrina: Abra lvl 22; Drowzee lvl 23; Golduck lvl 24; Kadabra lvl 25; Hypno lvl 26; Alakazam lvl 27.

Koga: Ekans lvl 27; Nidoran (female) lvl 28; Nidoran (male) lvl 29; Zubat lvl 30; Nidorina lvl 31; Nidorino lvl 32.

Blaine: Charmander lvl 32; Vulpix lvl 33; Growlithe lvl 34; Charmeleon lvl 35; Ninetales lvl 36; Charizard lvl 37.

Giovanni: Sandshrew lvl 37; Diglett lvl 38; Sandslash lvl 39; Dugtrio lvl 40; Nidoqueen lvl 41; Nidoking lvl 42.

Elite Four: Lorelei: Jynx lvl 42; Lapras lvl 43; Articuno lvl 44; Dewgong lvl 45; Cloyster lvl 46; Kingler lvl 47.

Bruno: Mankey lvl 47; Machop lvl 48; Primape lvl 49; Machoke lvl 50; Poliwrath lvl 51; Machamp lvl 52.

Agatha: Clefairy lvl 52; Ghastly lvl 53; Arbok lvl 54; Muk lvl 55; Haunter lvl 56; Gengar lvl 57.

Lance: Dratini lvl 57; Seadra lvl 58; Gyarados lvl 59; Dragonair lvl 60; Dragonite lvl 61; Meganium lvl 62.

Blue: Jolteon lvl 62; Butterfree lvl 63; Pidgeot lvl 64; Victreebel lvl 65; Typhlosion lvl 66; Feraligatr lvl 67.

Starters: Bulbasaur lvl 2; Charmander lvl 2; Squirtle lvl 2; Pikachu lvl 2; Sandshrew lvl 2.

Rival starter is to the right of yours; if you choose Sandshrew, he takes Bulbasaur.

 

[joeytheleo]

I don't know if I would call adding the functionality of Pokemon having 3 types a "minor change"

 

[JoshTheTrainer]

Six attacks? Four types? The idea sounds fun but it'd be EXTREMELY hard to accomplish (IDK if it's even possible). It's nothing minor to implement. Also, please note that the ROM map is read in a specific way. Like for the pokemon types it gets the data from a specific address. But there are just 2 addresses reserved for types (as a Pokemon can have a max of 2 types). To add 2 addresses and add them in-game and make sure the game can load them is very hard. And I think if you mess too much with it, things that happens with glitch pokemon can happen reguarly.

But this shouldn't stop you from trying. It's fun to mess around a bit with it. The idea is cool, so I wish you goodluck!

 

[Deokishisu]

At some point, adding "extra" of something that's already in the game just isn't fun for the player or good for gameplay. Types are one of those things. Four-typed Pokemon? Nightmare for the player. You might as well just give no types or all the types at once, because you'll be piling on so many weaknesses and resistances that the player will not be able to do the effectiveness calculations in their head, or remember a Pokemon's weaknesses/resistances in any meaningful way.

Six attacks is possibly a better idea, but not by much. By giving that potential coverage to everything, you'll only be elevating the Pokemon that actually benefit from extra attacks (or that can stand up to a wide breadth of types) and relegating the rest to the garbage bin. In essence, you make the god Pokemon more godly, and the sucky Pokemon worse by comparison. Furthermore, there is no switching game, since everything has the coverage for everything without giving up anything they need to actually function. Battles devolve into who spams the highest powered attack the fastest, and there are no reliable counters, save possibly Pokemon who get weird immunities through your ridiculous type system.

There is no way that interesting and fun gameplay results from this idea. You eliminate the interplay present with existing mechanical limitations by opening everything up like this, while simultaneously making every battle a guessing game/speed war and not adding anything particularly meaningful or fun to make up for their tremendous loss.

 

[Drahcir]

Well if you'll actually read my list, only two pokemon have four types and less than a dozen have more than two, others have their types fixed based on the species description i gave or how they look ingame.

Additionally, eliminating the requirement to trade for some and making every transformation level up would mostly be because online rom hacks limit the ability to link-up without special programs; if they allow this at all.

Regardless of anything else you might be against, can you honestly say charizard and gyarados would be better off as non-dragons?

 

[Hajima]

Erhm, I agree with Deokishisu on this one. Four types? That's not exactly fun material on the players. It also sort of defeats the purpose of weaknesses and such, plus it would be very hard to implement on the rom. It is not a minor change, it is very game-changing and has a high chance of not working out. :(

But overall, keep doing what you think is right. Cheers! :)

 

[sykotiksonik]

Regardless of anything else you might be against, can you honestly say charizard and gyarados would be better off as non-dragons?

Yes, I absolutely can. Sure, based on appearance alone it makes sense, but seeing as how everyone and their mothers know Charizard and Gyarados' normal weakness, changing their type to Dragon/Flying will confuse players, even if just for a second. You can just add more Dragon moves and more Dragon types early on, but what would be the point? Adding in the other changes you're planning on adding (more than two types, 6 moves), you're looking at an extremely complicated game for players.

If you're looking to make the game difficult, here's some advice: Difficulty should be natural, yet still manageable in a Pokèmon game. Not arbitrary and frustrating for all the wrong reasons. I'm sorry, but the game you're thinking about making does not sound fun in the slightest.

 

[Drahcir]

Ok so I have a first draft finished and would like some testers, if someone can tell me how to upload and where.
I didn't get to do even half of what I wanted, so for those of you afraid of overcomplicated type matchups, you have been sparred. I'm no programmer or casual hacker so I changed what made sense to, and again, please consider, I changed some types based on appearance and some on what species name I gave them, fo instance Jynx is now a succubus, and is therefore ice/ghost type because succubi are demons and they make a room colder than cold.

So if somebody could please tell me how to upload this thing, I'd like some opinions after full play-through.

 

[TheHunterManX]

First off:
You must make your rom hack into an ips file.

Now you can either:
A: upload it to mediafire
B: upload it to dropbox
C: upload it to google drive

Then get the links to the files and there you are.
Unfortunately, I cannot test as I have alot of work and I cannot make any time for it. Good luck!

 

[Drahcir]

How do you make it an .ips?