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Rain Dance Team Help

$lowking

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    Hello PC. Haven't posted here in a while due to being busy. But this summer I have found some time to game. Anywho I decided to build a new Rain Dance when I found that one of my favorite Pokémon got a major boost with the Drizzle Ablity. As many of you may have guessed, that Pokémon is none other than Politoed. Unfortunatly, building a RD Team is more diffcult than I thought. Actually only got 2 Pokémon done... So I decided to turn to you guys. Heres what I have so far:

    Politoed @ Choice Scarf
    Drizzle Ability
    Modest Nature
    EV Spread: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
    Hidden Power Grass
    Focus Blast
    Ice Beam
    Hydro Pump

    Jolteon @ Life Orb
    Volt Absorb Ability
    Timid Nature
    EV Spread: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 Def
    Hidden Power Ice
    Volt Switch
    Thunder
    Shadow Ball

    Aaannnddd... That's it. I know it's not a lot, but I just can't get any ideas... Rust I suppose. Well, what should I add/ change. I was thinking a Specs Scizor. What do you think?
     
    $lowking said:
    Aaannnddd... That's it. I know it's not a lot, but I just can't get any ideas... Rust I suppose. Well, what should I add/ change. I was thinking a Specs Scizor. What do you think?
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    Uh while I don't have much to add to the team building process other than something like Rotom-W to help Jolteon w/ ground attacks (plus Ferro to help out with grass attacks on either rotom-w or politoed, plus it's good in rain can set up SR for you and steel is always useful, especially in rain where Dragonite/Kingdra etc can be abused better - and rain is one of the most common weather types to face sooo) and is generally good in rain, I just kinda wanna advise against a specs Scizor. Very uncommon (wellll I've never seen it, but really, with base 55 sPA it isn't the best candidate for specs) but honestly you're better off with Choice Band/Swords Dance sets. The latter two defeat its threats much better than a specs set would and the fact that physical Scizor is amazing.
     
    Requility said:


    Uh while I don't have much to add to the team building process other than something like Rotom-W to help Jolteon w/ ground attacks (plus Ferro to help out with grass attacks on either rotom-w or politoed, plus it's good in rain can set up SR for you and steel is always useful, especially in rain where Dragonite/Kingdra etc can be abused better - and rain is one of the most common weather types to face sooo) and is generally good in rain, I just kinda wanna advise against a specs Scizor. Very uncommon (wellll I've never seen it, but really, with base 55 sPA it isn't the best candidate for specs) but honestly you're better off with Choice Band/Swords Dance sets. The latter two defeat its threats much better than a specs set would and the fact that physical Scizor is amazing.
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    Oops, I meant banded Scizor. My bad. Thanks for the help.
     
    I haven't played competitively in over a year so I may not be much help, but perhaps more bulky Pokemon like Ferrothorn, Rotom-W, and Jirachi will provide some overall roundness to your team.
     
    I decided to go with Shed Shell Ferrothorn, the previously listed Politoed and Jolteon, Sub + Dragon Dance Kingdra, Bulky Ludicolo, and Life Orb Scizor. Sorry I didn't go to indepth on these, but you can always look on Smogon if you want. ^_^ I'm feelin' a bit lazy.
     
    Swift Swim + Drizzle is banned, FYI, so that takes Kingdra out of the equation.

    Also, we need to see your full team with moves, EVs, etc. when you finally put the team together.
     
    PlatinumDude said:
    Swift Swim + Drizzle is banned, FYI, so that takes Kingdra out of the equation.

    Also, we need to see your full team with moves, EVs, etc. when you finally put the team together.
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    Yup, I knew the combination was banned. Guess I just forgot. Although it does bring up the question; "Why is Drizzle + Swift Swim banned while Drought + Chlorophyll is allowed?" ... Well? Anyways, I wasn't able to post my detailed sets since I've been on a mobile device all day. I'll get that up soon. :-) I love Kingdra's set though... Do you think it could work with the Sniper ability? (Damp is pretty bad considering that Explosion/SD is pretty rare in the current metagame.)
     
    $lowking said:
    Yup, I knew the combination was banned. Guess I just forgot. Although it does bring up the question; "Why is Drizzle + Swift Swim banned while Drought + Chlorophyll is allowed?" ... Well? Anyways, I wasn't able to post my detailed sets since I've been on a mobile device all day. I'll get that up soon. :-) I love Kingdra's set though... Do you think it could work with the Sniper ability? (Damp is pretty bad considering that Explosion/SD is pretty rare in the current metagame.)
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    Drizzle + Swift Swim is banned because rain was easy to abuse and Swift Swimmers were free to wreak havoc on opposing teams. I think why Drought + Chlorophyll isn't banned is because Sun isn't an easy weather to maintain due to the presence of rain and sandstorm teams. Ninetales is also faster than both Tyranitar and Politoed so its weather will always be replaced by sandstorm or rain respectively when both hit the field at once (the slower Pokemon always gets its weather effect when 2 weather inducers are sent into battle).
     
    PlatinumDude said:
    Drizzle + Swift Swim is banned because rain was easy to abuse and Swift Swimmers were free to wreak havoc on opposing teams. I think why Drought + Chlorophyll isn't banned is because Sun isn't an easy weather to maintain due to the presence of rain and sandstorm teams. Ninetales is also faster than both Tyranitar and Politoed so its weather will always be replaced by sandstorm or rain respectively when both hit the field at once (the slower Pokemon always gets its weather effect when 2 weather inducers are sent into battle).
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    Ahh, I see. Thank you for that. Anyways, what do you think about keeping Kingdra and just switching its ability? Any chance of that working?
     
    $lowking said:
    Ahh, I see. Thank you for that. Anyways, what do you think about keeping Kingdra and just switching its ability? Any chance of that working?
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    No. Kingdra should use Swift Swim as its ability so that it can use opposing rain for itself.

    Find other rain abusers, then post the team.
     
    Since Drizzle + Swift Swim is banned, I would suggest Another water type give it a damp rock and rain Dance. Im not a big rain team user, im more of a sun teamer but hope i helped :P
     
    Okay, so this is what a have. Please help ASAP. I really don't like my current team. (It's OU)

    Ferrothorn @ Shed Shell
    IV Spread: Flawless (If I end up keeping him, I will change his Speed IV's to 0)
    EV Spread: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
    Nature: Relaxed
    Ability: Iron Barbs
    -Spikes
    -Leech Seed
    -Gyro Ball
    -Power Whip

    Politoed @ Choice Scarf
    IV Spread: Whatever it is for HP Grass
    EV Spread: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Drizzle
    -Hydro Pump
    -HP Grass
    -Ice Beam
    -Focus Blast

    Jolteon @ Life Orb
    IV Spread: Whatever it is for HP Ice
    EV Spread: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    -Volt Switch
    -Thunder
    -HP Ice
    -Shadow Ball

    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    IV Spread: Flawless
    EV Spread: 160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Rain Dish
    -Toxic
    -Scald
    -Ice Beam
    -Giga Drain

    Scizor @ Life Orb
    IV Spread: Flawless
    EV Spread: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SpD
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Technician
    -Roost
    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -Bug Bite

    The last spot it open to suggestions. First was Kingdra, but I was reminded that Drizzle + Swift Swim is banned. Then I tried CM + Wish Jirachi, but I hated that, for it did not fit my play style.
     
    Change Ferrothorn's Speed IV to 0. That way, Gyro Ball will hit at its hardest against fast opponents.

    Ludicolo can use SubSeed in the rain to take advantage of Rain Dish as well:
    -Substitute
    -Leech Seed
    -Protect/Toxic
    -Scald/Giga Drain/Ice Beam
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Rain Dish

    If you don't like having entry hazards on your field, you can use Tentacruel as your Rapid Spinner:
    -Scald
    -Toxic Spikes
    -Rapid Spin
    -Protect/Ice Beam
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Rain Dish

    or
    -Substitute
    -Toxic
    -Rapid Spin
    -Scald
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Rain Dish

    Other options to consider in the last slot are Tornadus-Therian, Dragonite and SubCM Jirachi:

    Tornadus-T:
    -Hurricane
    -Superpower/Focus Blast
    -U-turn
    -Rain Dance/Taunt/Hidden Power (Ground)
    Nature: Naive/Timid
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Dragonite:
    -Hurricane
    -Aqua Tail
    -ExtremeSpeed
    -Superpower/Roost
    Nature: Rash/Mild/Quiet
    EVs: 252 Atk/252 SAtk/4 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Abiliy: Multiscale

    or
    -Hurricane
    -Thunder
    -Dragon Tail
    -Roost
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/108 SAtk/148 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Multiscale

    Jirachi:
    -Substitute
    -Calm Mind
    -Thunder
    -Water Pulse/Psyshock/Flash Cannon
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
     
    Thank you so much! This will help tremendously! For the last slot I am deciding between the Toxic Spikes Cruel and the Extreme Speed Dragonite. I'll make up my mind eventually, but thank you!
     
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