Rate a Few Pokemon of mine on Emerald

[Crobat39]

Crawdaunt Lv. 88 (M)

Ice Beam
WaterFall
Aerial Ace
Strength ( Will replace with Hidden Power )

Lapra/Lapras Lv. 73 (F)

Ice Beam
Sheer Cold
WaterFall
Surf

I need to replace a few attacks of my Lapras, give a few suggestions.

Blaze/Blaziken Lv. 67 (M)

Blaze Kick
Sky UpperCut
Hidden Power
Double Kick

Need to replace Double Kick.

Any pokemon I should get and train, post them.

 

[St. Arcanum]

You should consider catcing a Feebas, preferably a Mild or Modest nature one, and evolve it into a Milotic: the best water pokemon in the games and raise it up. Teach it: Ice Beam, Hydro Pump, Recover, and Surf.

Blaziken is perfect, that is, if you don't replace double kick. The other two are allright but aren't very good in my opinion. Rating?... allright.

 

[mikesta]

great team but you should get more pokemon of other types

 

[Ayano Katagiri]

Crawdaunt Lv. 88 (M)

Ice Beam
WaterFall Replace with Surf if you want a strong water attack. Waterfall is pretty useless.
Aerial Ace
Strength ( Will replace with Hidden Power )

Lapra/Lapras Lv. 73 (F)

Ice Beam
Sheer Cold
WaterFall (Dont have two attacks of the same type on one Pokemon especially if one is weaker than the other. So get rid of Waterfall.）
Surf

I need to replace a few attacks of my Lapras, give a few suggestions.

Blaze/Blaziken Lv. 67 (M)

Blaze Kick
Sky UpperCut
Hidden Power
Double Kick

Need to replace Double Kick.
Blaziken is ok but maybe replace Double Kick with something else
Any pokemon I should get and train, post them.
Pokemon you should get depends on what type of team you are gonna have. Yea and maybe get some other types of Pokemon. You wont need another Water type.

 

[shanecdavis]

A few tips for you:

NEVER give the same Poke two attacking moves of the same type. It is redundant and only limits the Poke's effectiveness.

NEVER use any HM that isn't called Surf. The others are either worthless or Normal-type that don't give your Poke much of an advantage.

NEVER use low accuracy OHKO moves like Sheer Cold. They are noobish and fail much more often than they succeed.

As for your team, fixes in bold:

Crawdaunt Lv. 88 (M)

- Ice Beam
- Waterfall
Aerial Ace
Strength ( Will replace with Hidden Power )

First off, having two Water-types is redundant, even though their secondary types are different. They still share a lot of the same weaknesses, and since Lapras is MUCH better than Crawdaunt, I would get rid of this one. Ludicolo and Swampert much better compliment Lapras since they both resist some of the same weaknesses that. As for Crawdaunt, it isn't a very good choice because its base Atk is much higher than its SAtk, but it only really has Return and Ancientpower in which to work with. Also, avoid using Hidden Power unless you are cheating and can set the type and AP of it. It is just too random to be of any use.

Lapra/Lapras Lv. 73 (F)

- Confuse Ray
- Ice Beam
- Sing/Surf
- Thunderbolt

I need to replace a few attacks of my Lapras, give a few suggestions.

Lapras is an under-rated Poke. I prefer Sing over Surf.

Blaze/Blaziken Lv. 67 (M)

- Fire Blast/Overheat
- Sky Attack
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Unfortunately for Blaziken (and Sceptile for that matter), its best moves cannot be acquired by itself. It needs Swords Dance and Substitute from Move Tutors. Not too bad of a Poke, even though it is the dreaded Fire-type.

Need to replace Double Kick.

Yes, that follows the one type attack per Poke rule.

Any pokemon I should get and train, post them.

Not able to take time to make suggestions right now, I just went off the top of my head on the three you have.

 

[Arsibiyez]

Okay, this is my first time to rate any team, so... Here I go.

Crawdaunt Lv. 88 (M) @ Leftovers/Shell Bell
Adamant Nature
Ice Beam
WaterFall Surf
Aerial Ace Sludge Bomb
Strength ( Will replace with Hidden Power ) Brick Break


A little advice: When you say that you're using Hidden Power, specify what type of Hidden Power you plan on using. Key it in as HP(Grass), HP(Electric), etc.


Lapra/Lapras Lv. 73 (F) @ Lum Berry
Modest Nature
Ice Beam/Blizzard
Sheer Cold Rest
WaterFall Sing/Toxic
Surf


I need to replace a few attacks of my Lapras, give a few suggestions.

As I've learned from rates of my own teams, it is a mistake to give any Pokemon an HM move that isn't Surf. It is, by far, the best HM move. And another thing, it is said that it is noobish to include an OHKO move in a Pokemon's moveset, so Sheer Cold is a big no-no.


Blaze/Blaziken Lv. 67 (M) @ Leftovers / Shell Bell
Adamant/Modest Nature
Blaze Kick Flamethrower/Fire Blast
Sky UpperCut
Hidden Power Swords Dance
Double Kick Rock Slide

Need to replace Double Kick.


Correct. Replace Double Kick and Blaze Kick since they are Physical Contact moves and can trigger traits like Static, Cute Charm, Rough Skin, etc. Get either Flamethrower for decent power and accuracy, or Fire Blast for raw power. And, again, what type Hidden Power were you planning to use?

Any pokemon I should get and train, post them.

Again, this is my first time to rate a team, but I THINK I know what I'm doing. But, just to be safe, maybe you should listen to other rating besides mine. After all, there are lots of better raters in PC. All I know is, you need to replace one of your water-types for a different-type Pokemon. Ahh, whatever... Good luck! :)

 

[Crobat39]

First of all, it is just a few of my pokemon that I been Training.

St. Arcanum, I can't really find any Feebas, it is way to hard to catch that is the reason why I choose different water pokemon to use.

!!**Alex**!!, I use waterfall to get somewhere, in Meteor Falls I need it to get to the place to get Bagon. WaterFall is not useless. And I don't know what to replace Double Kick with. CrawDaunt and Lapras are just two pokemon I have. And Blaziken is my Starter.

shanecdavis, I had my CrawDaunt since I Caught it on my other game(Restarted). My Lapras is my Surfing pokemon instead of Waliord now. But I want to get rid of Sheer Cold. I don't want to get rid of Blaze Kick and Sky UpperCut on Blaziken.

Tail_Glow, On CrawDaunt I don't really know how you get a different Hidden Power instead of its type. I just gave my Crawdaunt Aerial Ace not too long ago. And I CAN'T change their nature so don't say them because order to change their nature you have to catch another and I don't want to do that. And I do want to change Sheer Cold on Lapras. NOT CHANGING WATERFALL, I use it to go catch Bagon. Not replacing Blaze Kick or Sky UpperCut on Blaziken either.

 

[shanecdavis]

Don't ask for a rate if you are not going to listen to any suggestions.

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First of all, it is just a few of my pokemon that I been Training.[/B]

Then don't post your current team. Post what you would like your team to end up like and then you will get a better rating.

St. Arcanum, I can't really find any Feebas, it is way to hard to catch that is the reason why I choose different water pokemon to use.
Even if you cannot find Feebas, there are plenty other Water-types (including Lapras) that are better than Crawdaunt. Ludicolo would be a great choice for your team:

Ludicolo @ Leftovers
- Ice Beam/Toxic
- Leech Seed/Giga Drain
- Surf
- Synthesis/Rest

Giving this thing Surf, you are able to free up Lapras and make it more versatile. LS or GD is personal preference, as is Synthesis or Rest. I prefer IB to cover its big Flying weakness, but Toxic + LS destroys teams.

!!**Alex**!!, I use waterfall to get somewhere, in Meteor Falls I need it to get to the place to get Bagon. WaterFall is not useless. And I don't know what to replace Double Kick with. CrawDaunt and Lapras are just two pokemon I have. And Blaziken is my Starter.

Waterfall IS a uselessmove, especially when Surf is more powerful. The only time you would use Waterfall on a Poke is if that is the strongest Water-type move it can learn. I already explained NOT to put HM moves on the Pokes in your team. They are crap moves that only keep your Poke from being better. What you do is get a crappy Poke (like Wailmer, Zigzagoon, or Tropius for example), and teach it a bunch of HM moves. They are now your HM Slave that you take out of your PC when you need it (i.e. Waterfall for catching Bagon).

shanecdavis, I had my CrawDaunt since I Caught it on my other game(Restarted). My Lapras is my Surfing pokemon instead of Waliord now. But I want to get rid of Sheer Cold. I don't want to get rid of Blaze Kick and Sky UpperCut on Blaziken.

Just because you caught a Poke at the beginning, doesn't mean you have to keep it. Making your team more versatile allows you to handle different types more easily. Why would you get keep Blaze Kick, when Fire Blast or Overheat are more powerful? FB is only 5% less accurate, but is 120 AP while BK is only 85. Hell, even Flamethrower is better (100% accurate, 95 AP). Definitely keep SU, as it is Blaziken's best Fighting move.

Tail_Glow, On CrawDaunt I don't really know how you get a different Hidden Power instead of its type. I just gave my Crawdaunt Aerial Ace not too long ago. And I CAN'T change their nature so don't say them because order to change their nature you have to catch another and I don't want to do that. And I do want to change Sheer Cold on Lapras. NOT CHANGING WATERFALL, I use it to go catch Bagon. Not replacing Blaze Kick or Sky UpperCut on Blaziken either.

If you don't know how to take advantage of Hidden Power then don't use it.

After checking my own Blaziken, I failed to give you the best moveset for it. Here it is:

Blaziken @ Leftovers/White Herb
- Fire Blast/Overheat
- Sky Uppercut
- Swords Dance
- Thunderpunch/Rock Slide

I use FB but you can go with Overheat if you don't like only having 8PP. Thunderpunch or RS is also a personal preference. Both combat Flying-types.

As I said before, post what you want your team to look like and then I can give you better suggestions.

 

[Crobat39]

Don't ask for a rate if you are not going to listen to any suggestions.

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After checking my own Blaziken, I failed to give you the best moveset for it. Here it is:

Blaziken @ Leftovers/White Herb
- Fire Blast/Overheat
- Sky Uppercut
- Swords Dance
- Thunderpunch/Rock Slide

I use FB but you can go with Overheat if you don't like only having 8PP. Thunderpunch or RS is also a personal preference. Both combat Flying-types.

As I said before, post what you want your team to look like and then I can give you better suggestions.

First oF all, I don't like Ludicolo, he is not a great pokemon for me. And I said WATERFALL IS NOT USELESS, I USE IT TO GET TO THE PLACE TO CATCH BAGON. And Fly is not useless either, why don't you like it? You should use it to get to places faster. And I like to keep pokemon that I like, that are on high levels. And I am not going to give my Blaziken Fire Blast or OverHeat because they miss sometimes.

And how about this Salamence:

Gilmon/Salamence (F) Lv. 97
FlameThrower
Crunch ( I would like to replace it )
EarthQuake
Dragon Claw

:disappoin

 

[shanecdavis]

And now I will say again, why ask for a rating if you aren't going to listen to good suggestions?? If you believe you are so good, why post in the first place?

First oF all, I don't like Ludicolo, he is not a great pokemon for me. And I said WATERFALL IS NOT USELESS, I USE IT TO GET TO THE PLACE TO CATCH BAGON. And Fly is not useless either, why don't you like it? You should use it to get to places faster. And I like to keep pokemon that I like, that are on high levels. And I am not going to give my Blaziken Fire Blast or OverHeat because they miss sometimes.

For the last time, regardless of your opinion, Waterfall IS USELESS on a Poke that can learn Surf. It is only 80 AP compared to 95 AP that Surf has. If you don't know, AP is Attack Power that determines how strong a move is. The ONLY benefit Waterfall has is on Pokes that don't learn Surf. You say you use it to catch Bagon, but you only have to catch Bagon ONCE the whole game! After that you breed it to get a more powerful baby. Waterfall is useless after you visit the places you need it to get to. That is why I took time to explain an HM Slave to you. You put four HM moves on a crappy Poke like Walrien/Wailord or Tropius, and then only use them when you need to. Fly is just as useless as Waterfall. Catch a Tropius, teach it Fly (plus 3 other crappy HM moves) and then pull it out of your PC when you need to travel somewhere. Putting HM moves (not called Surf) on the Pokes that you actually battle with, only make them weaker and less effective.

As for Fire Blast and Overheat, I think you need to understand that Blaze Kick is only 90% accurate, THE SAME as Overheat. Fire Blast is 85% accurate. That said, Blaze Kick has only 85 Attack Power (AP), while FB has 120 and Overheat has 140. You can even use Flamethrower instead, which is 100% accurate with 95 AP. All three options I suggested are better than Blaze Kick, which is just as useless as Waterfall.


And how about this Salamence:

Gilmon/Salamence @ Choice Band
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast/Brick Break
- Rock Slide

Again, believe what you will. I am only trying to help you become a better trainer. Keep in mind that the DS and Diamond/Pearl has WiFi capability, allowing you to battle others. Battling others is MUCH different than the crappy AI. Changing your thinking now will save you a lot of embarrassment later.

 

[Arsibiyez]

Crobat39, I cannot imagine how you could possibly benefit from posting your team here when you obviously cannopt accept criticism of any sort. You asked for us to rate your team, and we did. You asked for suggestions on your Pokemon's movesets, and we gave them to you. If you don't want to listen, then fine. Might as well have this thread closed.


Slaves are the only Pokemon you teach HM moves to. An exception to this is the move Surf, since it is equal to other moves like Flamethrower and Thunderbolt with 95AP and 100% accuracy. Also, it is non-contact.

I suggest you use the following Pokemon as your slaves for the entire game:

Gyarados @ (whatever)
(Whatever) nature
Surf
Waterfall
Dive
Rock Smash/Strength

Tropius @ (whatever)
(Whatever) nature
Fly
Cut
Flash
Rock Smash/Strength


There! You've got all HM moves on 2 Pokemon! You can go anywhere! Got it? Good? Good.

Pokemon Natures are VERY important. They help to improve one of your Pokemon's stats, and lower's another one, both by 10%. It may not look like it makes any difference at first, but you'll see all the difference when your Pokemon reach higher levels. Trust me on this one.

So you can do one of two things:
a.) Take the advice that you're given and make your Pokemon as effective as possible,

or

b.) Ignore us and keep your Pokemon the way they are.




Just one last thing... Waterfall is useless. Okay, bye.

 

[Crobat39]

shanecdavis, I am just wondering if my team is good. Ok, I catch bagon A FEW TIMES IN THE GAME, and I use waterfall in battles and 80 AP is not WEAK. And a pokemon with fly or waterfall aren't WEAK either and You don't only need strong attacks. Nope, not changing Dragon Claw on Salamence.

Tail_Glow, Well, yall are changing the attacks I want my pokemon to keep. And I don't like HM slaves because I don't want to keep putting them in my party. BUT I CAN NOT CHANGE NATURES ON MY POKEMON SO DON'T POST THEM. I am going to say this one last time: WATERFALL IS NOT USELESS. You can change tha attacks I don't want my pokemon to have anymore.

 

[Arsibiyez]

You can't change the Pokemon's natures, but you can always catch or breed new ones with better natures and moves that will be much more effective than the ones in your current team.

Sorry to say this, but Fly with 70AP and Waterfall with 80AP are, in fact, weak.

It's alright if you don't change Dragon Claw on Salamence. It benefits from STAB and will have a total of 102AP.

You've posted only 3 Pokemon for rating in this thread. I've given you 2 HM Slaves to use. That totals 5, obviously, and you can even include one more, like a Linoone for Pickup advantage. Do NOT diss the effectiveness of Pokemon slaves.

Don't go on saying that you already have 6 Pokemon and have no room for HM Slaves. That's what the PC boxes are for. With such levels that your Pokemon have, you've obviously beaten the Elite Four. This means that there is no more reason to use HM moves other than Surf, Waterfall, Dive, and Rock Smash, which are needed to reach certain Pokemon in certain areas which require usage of these HM moves. And of course, Fly, for traveling convenience.

In-game, 80AP isn't weak, especially with Pokemon with high SAtk like your Lapras. Unfortunately, battles with real people aren't so easy. So if you were battling other real people, which of two attacks would you prefer: Surf with 95AP, or Waterfall with 80AP? I believe you'd choose the former.

Sometimes, even in-game trainers are difficult to beat since some of them can actually get lucky with critical hits, or even use combos. I myself can't get past my 56 winning streak at the Lvl.100 Battle Tower challenge in my Sapphire version. I've resorted to sweeping, and slow KO-ing via Toxic, Confuse Ray, Leech Seed, etc. No team is perfect, so might as well make each team the most effective that it can be, right?

But, it's still your team. Do what you want. I'm not saying that you've done anything wrong. Rather, I'm just trying to tell you that there is much that you can do to make your team better. That's all.

 

[shanecdavis]

shanecdavis, I am just wondering if my team is good. Ok, I catch bagon A FEW TIMES IN THE GAME, and I use waterfall in battles and 80 AP is not WEAK. And a pokemon with fly or waterfall aren't WEAK either and You don't only need strong attacks. Nope, not changing Dragon Claw on Salamence.

LOL I have already established that your team is not good. You have spent the latter part of this thread refusing to accept constructive criticism that would make you better. That is your choice. I have also already explained MANY times now how Waterfall is a useless move on Pokes that can learn Surf. If you refuse to accept that, again that is your choice and your opinion. Believe what you will. You can put Tackle on your Salamence for all I care. I only gave you suggestions to make your team BETTER. Whether or not you choose to use them is, once again, your choice. Just stop trying to justify that a weak move is better when it isn't.

Tail_Glow, Well, yall are changing the attacks I want my pokemon to keep. And I don't like HM slaves because I don't want to keep putting them in my party. BUT I CAN NOT CHANGE NATURES ON MY POKEMON SO DON'T POST THEM. I am going to say this one last time: WATERFALL IS NOT USELESS. You can change tha attacks I don't want my pokemon to have anymore.

TG was simply giving you good advice. You don't have to breed Pokemon to get better IVs and a better Nature. You don't have to have an HM slave. You don't have to change any attacks on your Pokes that have been suggested. You don't have to make your team better in any way.

You really need to be able to take constructive criticism more graciously. If you aren't open to suggestions to make your team better, then don't post in the first place. I will definitely note not to rate any of your teams that you might post in the future, seeing the result of wasting my time. Good luck to you.

 

[Arsibiyez]

You really need to be able to take constructive criticism more graciously. If you aren't open to suggestions to make your team better, then don't post in the first place. I will definitely note not to rate any of your teams that you might post in the future, seeing the result of wasting my time. Good luck to you.

*Sigh*
Same here... Sorry Crobat39, but I'm giving up on you, too. So much for my first rating...

 

[aragornbird]

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Crobat, please listen to shane and Tail Glow. They know A LOT more about Pokémon than you do. What they are saying is true. Fly and Waterfall DO suck (however, Waterfall becomes great for physical sweeping Water types in D/P).

But for the record, shane, Special Sweeping Salamence is fine.

Anyways, whatever. You've received all the help you can get. Take it or leave it.

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