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Rate my Groudon

Groudon Master

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    • Seen Oct 10, 2004
    Groudon @ Soft Sand
    Nature: Hardy
    Level: 100
    Hp: 348
    Atk: 384
    Def: 315
    Sp Atk: 245
    Sp Def: 215
    Speed: 214

    Move:
    -Hyper Beam
    -Solarbeam
    -Earthquack
    -Eruption

    What do you guyz think?
     
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    Pretty good! What level is it?
     
    its lv.100

    great groudon,if were rating,10/10
     
    Did you use any carbos or calcium,etc. on him?
     
    deathbyalice said:
    Very cool then. Are you raising your other pokemon well too?
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    yea, but for some reason its not as strong as Groundon :disappoin . I have a Kyogre I got in a trade but I don't really use much.

    Kyogre @ Mystic Water
    Nature: Impish :disappoin
    Level: 100
    Hp: 366
    Atk: 230
    Def: 264
    Sp Atk: 309
    Sp Def: 306
    Speed: 221

    Moves:
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunder
    -Earthquake
    -Water Spout
     
    Cool Kyogre moveset, exactly the same kinda thing I'd use.

    There's only one problem with your Groudon; it's exposed to flying types. Other than that, its pretty good. But, I can't stress this enough, DO NOT delete Calm Mind/Bulk Up from Kyo/Grou! It takes just a few of these babies to make Kyogre invincible, and just a couple more for Groudon.
     
    Well, let's rip your Groudon to shreds, cos it's a bit useless to be honest.

    EV seems a bit spread all over the place, but his attack seems to be high enough. Lacking in some much-needed defence, however.

    Oh yes, get rid of the Soft Sand. 1.1 boosters really don't pack that much punch, better to resort to a berry of some sort. I recommend Lum, Liechi or Salac.

    Hyper Beam is a no-no. 2 turn moves are useless, they never do as much damage as people think, and it gives your opponent a free turn to attack against you. Free turns = fainted Pokemon, after all.

    Solarbeam is another bad move. Even with Groudon's Drought, Solarbeam is going to be a light tickle compared to any physical attacks. There's been a whole discussion about how bad Solarbeam is on Groudon, go back and find it somewhere in this forum.

    Earthquake: This Groudon's only good move. STAB and high Attack for decent damage.

    Eruption: Ok, it gets a bonus from Drought, but Eruption is still a poor to average move for Groudon to use. You really want to concentrate on his much higher physical attack rather than load up on useless special-based moves.

    As for moveset, something like this works well for Groudon:
    Groudon@Salac Berry/Lum Berry
    EV: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
    Earthquake
    Rock Slide
    Swords Dance
    Aerial Ace

    Aerial Ace to take out those wannabe Sunnybeamers, and Rock Slide for all-round damage against those immune to Earthquake.
     
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    Ha, love to analyze things, don't ya? He's Groudon will rip any opponent apart with one hit, it's not like there are very many lvl 100 pokemon in the game, except in Battle Tower.
     
    I like people to see why I've said the things I have, so they can improve themselves. And yeah, in game doesn't really matter, it's when you're facing a human opponent that you start to see where the differences come in.
     
    To be honest, idk much about IV & EV & how to raise certain stat only. All I did is raise it like any other ppl would. But I do Plan Fighting real ppl & knowin this will help me alot.
     
    There's a whole section devoted to EVs in the RSE FAQ, I suggest you go check it out. Those extra points make the difference between a OHKO and the pokemon surviving on 1% health, and a conscious Pokemon at any health level is still a threat.
     
    What-- you don't care? EV training is very important nowadays, if you hope to build a "deadly team".
     
    Groudon Master said:
    yea, but for some reason its not as strong as Groundon :disappoin . I have a Kyogre I got in a trade but I don't really use much.

    Kyogre @ Mystic Water
    Nature: Impish :disappoin
    Level: 100
    Hp: 366
    Atk: 230
    Def: 264
    Sp Atk: 309
    Sp Def: 306
    Speed: 221

    Moves:
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunder
    -Earthquake
    -Water Spout
    Click to expand...
    ().o
    Earthquake on Kyogre?
     
    Toothache said:
    As for moveset, something like this works well for Groudon:
    Groudon@Salac Berry/Lum Berry
    EV: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
    Earthquake
    Rock Slide
    Swords Dance
    Aerial Ace

    Aerial Ace to take out those wannabe Sunnybeamers, and Rock Slide for all-round damage against those immune to Earthquake.
    Click to expand...

    What do i have to fight to raise atk,speed, & Sp Def??
     
    Yep they should. Here is a Groudon ms.

    Groudon@Chesto berry/Leftovers
    Solar beam
    Flamethrower/Eruption
    Earthquake
    Rest/Bulk up

    If you choose Eruption, go with chesto resting.

    Hers a Kyogre ms.

    Kyogre@Chesto berry/Leftovers
    Thunder
    Ice beam
    Surf/Water Spout
    Rest/Calm mind

    If you choose Water Spout, Chestorest some more.

    EVs, for Groudon put attack and Special defense and HP. For Kyogre both special stats and HP.

    Im not very good with EVs.
     
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