Rate my Pokemon team

[Unistachio]

Last time I stuck it in the wrong forum. >_<

1.Vibrava (No item)
Adament nature
Fly
Dragonbreath
Sandstorm
Screech
HP:125
ATK:100
DEF:68
SP.ATK:55
SP.DEF:62
SPEED: 89

2.Dusknoir (Spooky Plate)
Careful nature
Shadow Punch
Fire Punch
Thunderpunch
Ice Beam
ATK:161
DEF:105
SP.ATK:91
SP.DEF:216
SPEED:94
LV.68

3.Torterra (No item)
Adament nature
Earthquake
Rock Climb
Rock Smash
Cut
ATK:184
DEF:165
SP.ATK:121
SP.DEF:143
SPEED:124
LV.68

4. Electivire
Hardy nature
Rock Smash
Thunder
Low Kick
ThunderPunch
ATK:105
DEF:60
SP.ATK:76
SP.DEF:72
SPEED:87
LV.36

Rhyperior (Stone Plate)
Brave nature
Fire Blast
Rock Wrecker
Surf
Strength
ATK: 238
DEF:204
SP.ATK:98
SP.DEF:97
SPEED: 81
LV.68

I actually listed everthing.

 

[El Gofre]

Not only did you list everything, you listed too much and not the stuff we need. Heres a few points:
*Post us the end result, not your team in-construction.
*We dont care about levels or stats, we need EVs
*The only HM worth using is waterfall (And maybe surf), so get rid of them all
*All your pokemon have mixed sets when they fail on them.
*Two moves of the same type on the same poke significantly reduces your coverage.

SO yeah, a lot needs to be done. Rectify these and I'll give a full rating with specific amendments.

 

[Anti]

*The only HM worth using is waterfall (And maybe surf)

Surf > Waterfall, every day of the year. Surf is a greatmove, waterfall is overrated.

I suggest looking at each pokemon's base stats and makinmg a set accordingly. For example, that would tell you special attacks on Rhyinferior are really bad.

 

[El Gofre]

Waterfall is one of the few physical water moves. For poke's who dont need aqua jet's speed boost, its the next bestthing.

 

[sims796]

Surf > Waterfall, every day of the year. Surf is a greatmove, waterfall is overrated.

I suggest looking at each pokemon's base stats and makinmg a set accordingly. For example, that would tell you special attacks on Rhyinferior are really bad.

Don't ever say that again. Can Gyarados use Surf? What about Swampert, isn't Waterfall the superior choice for him? That was a surprizingly amateurish thing to say, as Waterfall is perfect for physical attackers (sacrificing 15 Base Power for 30% chance to flinch, good trade off for a physical attacker) & Surf is the ultimate for special attackers, like Vaporeon. I don't know why I thought Vaporeon, but hey.

Like comparing Dusknoir with Gengar. How can you say one is better than the other if they serve totally different roles?

 

[El Gofre]

Yeahhh thanx sims :) but i dont get your comment about sacrificing 15 power, whats that refering to?

 

[sims796]

What are ya thanking me for? I wasn't really backing you up, but what Anti said made no sense. He of all people should know better.

Watherfall's Base Power is 80, Surf is 95. However, Waterfall has a 3020% Flinch rate.

EDIT:Oops, my bad, 20%.

 

[El Gofre]

Just bein polite seein as you agreed with what I said.
And ohhh ok I forgot about the possiblity of flinch

 

[sims796]

Ah. I'm all for politeness, but didn't want Anti to feel ganged up on.

 

[Anti]

Bit I LOVE being ganged up on :( I wasn't really refering to how good they were more as...waterfall is really overrated. I hate using water moves as it is, when I use 'em, I like power. Think about it this way: if both were special or physical *coughADVcough* Surf would be the clear-cut winner. Just because they turned it physical, I think people overvalue it.

But yes, me thinks I should have clarified that to avoid getting pwnt like I just did :( lol

So yeah :P Anyways, that vibrava would be so much cooler if it turned into:

Flygon @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- EQ
- Fire Punch / Stone Edge
- Quick Attack

Quick attack rocks my socks off.

 

[Unistachio]

Now, what, may i ask, are BLEEPING evs?

 

[Anti]

Now, what, may i ask, are BLEEPING evs?

Check the stickies. Maybe reading through them would be of benefit :/

 

[El Gofre]

Ok, without a rudimentory knowledge of EVs you will never succeed in wifi battling. Here's a quick overview:
Every pokemon gives off EVs (Effort Values) when you beat them. for example, a seaking gives off 2 att EVs and bidoofs give off a HP EV. When a poke gains 4 of the same EV, it gets a boost to that stat.

Theres an FAQ somewhere on this site for an indepth explaination

 

[Sora_8920]

Now, what, may i ask, are BLEEPING evs?

As Anti said, check either here. or here.

 

[sims796]

Bit I LOVE being ganged up on :( I wasn't really refering to how good they were more as...waterfall is really overrated. I hate using water moves as it is, when I use 'em, I like power. Think about it this way: if both were special or physical *coughADVcough* Surf would be the clear-cut winner. Just because they turned it physical, I think people overvalue it.

But yes, me thinks I should have clarified that to avoid getting pwnt like I just did :( lol

So yeah :P Anyways, that vibrava would be so much cooler if it turned into:

Flygon @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- EQ
- Fire Punch / Stone Edge
- Quick Attack

Quick attack rocks my socks off.

Mine is a mixed sweeper:

Flygon@Life Orb
Nature:Naughty
Fire Blast
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
U-Turn
EV:252 ATK/100 SP.ATK/156 SPD

Also, to say Waterfall is overvalued is a bit disheartining. Gyarados was CRYING for a STAB move, relying on HP Flying, or Return. Come on, he needed that power. As I said, thats the same thing as saying Starmie is MUCH better than Forretress. If they serve totally different roles, how can we compare? Waterfall is the equivilant to Surf, but only physical, so how is it overvalued?

 

[.Aero]

I actually run a different Flygon that works well for me. It's a Physical Sweeper, just mines a bit different.

Flygon@(mine doesn't have an item but I'm thinking Choice Scarf maybe)
Jolly~*will not reveal EVs*~Levitate
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Earthquake
Draco Meteor (I know not the best but it can seriously kill most other dragons even with the cut from Jolly)

Other tips:
Rhyperior (Stone Plate)*Never use items like this*
Brave nature *don't sacrafice his speed, use Adamant*
Fire Blast *don't use this on him. His special attack is sad*
Rock Wrecker *the recovery period isn't worth it, as you could use Stone Edge or Rock Slide instead*
Surf *again, special*
Strength *meh, but it's not the best*

~desu Saba~

 

[Shiraishi]

Rhyperior isn't gonna be outspeeding things anyway :/

Rhyperior@Leftovers/Choice Band
Adamant/Brave (w/e rocks your sox :D)
EVs:Someone else do this >.>
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Avalanche
-Megahorn

 

[airconditioning]

Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Impish
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 6 Atk
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/ Avalanche
-Roar
-Stealth Rock

Physical Wall Rhyperior. <3 I don't care if he serves a completely different role.