Rate my Team? C:

[Kleinchen]

EDIT: My new and revised team has been posted on post #11. If you could just scroll down a bit and take a look at that I would appreciate it very much. Thanks for all your advice everyone! :D

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

Seeing your team, Heracross and Mixape gives you many problems, from the Choice Scarf to Thyplosion.

 

[Kleinchen]

Seeing your team, Heracross and Mixape gives you many problems, from the Choice Scarf to Thyplosion.

I see... Do you have a suggestion, then, as to how to take care of that problem? x3 Maybe throw a Flying-type in there somewhere?

 

[CHARMANDER418]

You would probly want a nice revenge killer over luxray. Most people go with a ScarfTran (heatran) but you can make alot of other good ones. On revengers you want to use Choice Scarf, it allows you to outspeed what your takeing out most of the time.

 

[Pokedra]

Well..firstly Luxray is doing nothing :/

Get a decent lead, using Gallade and trying to sweep his team straightoff isn't going to work.

Maybe something like this =]

Swampert @ Leftovers
EV : 240 HP / 212 Def / 52 SpAtk
Nature : Relaxed
-Stealth Rock
-Ice Beam
-Earthquake
-Surf / Roar

Blissey > Probopass at special walling.

Blissey@ Leftovers
EV : 252 Def / 80 SpAtk / 176 SpD
Nature : Calm
-Wish
-Protect
-Flamethrower / Ice Beam
-Toxic / Thunder Wave / Seismic Toss

Try that.

Lopunny isn't really doing anything either :/
You want something that can pack a punch without setting up.

Scizor@ Choice Band
EV : 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Nature : Adamant
-Superpower
-U-Turn
-Pursuit
-Bullet Punch

You could try ScarfTran over Typhlosion to fix up some problems like MixApe I guess ;)

 

[Malicious Metang]

I agree with the changes Pokedra has suggested, though on CB Scizor, instead of 8 Speed EVs, 8 SpD EVs would be preferable, and if you would like, dropping the Speed IV to 30 could be in order. The reason I suggest this is because when two CB Scizor are paired together, the slower one will always have the advantage. If you're slower, you're U-turn will hit whatever comes in whereas their U-turn will hit your Scizor for negligable damage. If they Superpower, assuming you're healthy, they'll deal a ton of damage, though quite short of an OHKO. On the other hand, you're Superpower will be OHKOing them pretty much all the time due to the Defense drop.

Just some food for thought.

 

[Kleinchen]

Ah, I suppose I forgot to mention, I try and stick with UU or BL only and all your suggestions are OU... n.n; Thanks for the input though, I appreciate it x3; Would you have any suggestions in the UU category rather than OU? 8D;

I agree about the Luxray though @w@; As of now it's just a filler until I decide on something to replace it with.

 

[Malicious Metang]

Ah, I suppose I forgot to mention, I try and stick with UU or BL only and all your suggestions are OU... n.n; Thanks for the input though, I appreciate it x3; Would you have any suggestions in the UU category rather than OU? 8D;

I agree about the Luxray though @w@; As of now it's just a filler until I decide on something to replace it with.

Well...Chansey / Clefable could go over Probopass, due to being able to handle stuff like Nasty Plotters and stuff better, Chansey with superior bulk and Clefable with Encore and respectable bulk. They both get a good amount of opprotunities to switch-in and set up, due to the abudnant special attackers in every metagame. Chansey follows the same moveset as Blissey, though replacing the traditional Flamethrower / Ice Beam with Stealth Rock works wonders. Clefable could run S-Toss / T-Wave / Encore / Softboiled or even Stealth Rock > Twave. If you want a stronger Clefable, Toxic Orb > Leftovers and Facade > S-Toss can be managed.

Sunnybeaming is still a pretty terrible strategy, in any tier. Tyranitar and Hippowdon will ruin this strategy (though only the former can take Fire Blasts). You could use Scarf Typhlosion with Eruption to cause havoc, or even ditch it for a mixed Blaziken, who is slower but packs a more brutal punch with its 120 / 110 offensive stats. I don't know what you should do to EV it, but if you run a + Speed nature, a minimum of 236 Speed EVs would allow you to outrun Lucario to Fire Blast or even Vacuum Wave if you decide to use it. Lack of SR-weakness helps a lot as well.

Luxray is outclassed with a pure physical set. Replace it and keep Gallade with a pure Swords Dance set...SD / CC / Stone Edge / Night Slash works best and is the hardest to wall. Luxray can be changed to something that leads decently. A TrickScarf Mismagius can work wonderfully and can screw up teams that are not prepared:

Mismagius @ Choice Scarf
Timid
6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

~Trick
~Taunt / T-Wave
~Shadow Ball
~Will O Wisp / HP Fighting

 

[lolwut]

As this team seems to be UU/NU just thought I'd let you know Gallade is BL = banned from UU/NU.

 

[StrickeN]

I'm working on putting this team together, as of right now I'm working on all the EV training but this is what it should look like when it's all ready to go. All will be at lvl100 of course. n.n


Sweeper
Gallade -- Adamant -- Life Orb / Leftovers Berry
-Swords Dance
-Ice Punch
-Shadow Sneak
-Close Combat
~obviously this guy is meant to be my main sweeper... Right now I'm not sure if I'll be keeping Swords Dance or not, because I have a Baton Passer with Swords Dance that I'll use. Any suggestions as to what move to possibly have instead?

Psycho cut is useless other than virtual stab. I'd run Ice Punch > it as, there are threatening dragons out there, not to mention the hundred billion Checks/Walls that just love seeing a SneakCloseCut combo.'
Liechi with Swords Dance makes me giggle a lot on the inside. Life Orb gives you more damage, but if the 10% hurts your feelings run Leftovers for more %chance at living hits after some regain.

He is also a pitiful lead. Trying to sweep right off is just wah?? Set up, check around, knock out counters, then sweep. Better to do something like that than just go out there and blitz the opponent hoping he doesn't have a counter.

Special Sweeper
Typhlosion -- Timid -- Petaya Berry
-Sunny Day
-Solarbeam
-Flamethrower
-Substitute
~obviously a SunnyBeamer... What I plan on doing is Substituting down until the Petaya berry kicks in while setting up for Solarbeam, Flamethrower for STAB. I think this moveset is pretty set in stone as of now, but any suggestions are welcome as well. n.n

Oh no a timid SunnyBeamer D:. Actually, it's better this way. You are faster by a great bit and are able to outspeed some other things. You can continue your subbing to absorb the hits till the berry comes into play. I would also suggest making your HP Even, as that means even coming in on rocks it only takes 2 subs to get up to petaya boost.

Although in honesty now that I look I don't see EV spreads, put them on an updated post and I'll re-do my rate I guess.

I think if you wanted to a really offensive lead off, scarfLead would work 10x better than this. SunnyBeamers have always and forever to me been ... meh. It's pretty useless in my honest opinion. As you are still walled/checked to no end by flying/Dragons which is over 70% of current Dragons.

Wall
Leafeon -- Lax -- Leftovers?
-Leaf Blade
-Synthesis
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
~my Baton Passer I mention previously. Just meant to take hits and set up for my Sweeper. I was considering having Roar instead of Synthesis to prevent being Roared/Whirlwinded out before being able to Baton Pass to Gallade, but... I dunno. Any suggestions? x3 ALSO, I'm not entirely certain what to give it to hold... Leftovers tends to be my backup item until I can think of something else. I need ideas for this guys item, please~ x3;
I guess with sunny day Synthesis works. i'd run Wish even still. Wish Passing is so much more useful. I dont' like the idea of passing SD's with this guy though, I'll be honest. However, I don't see what to do with it as there are no EV's to tamper with. Though if I had to decide the final outcome It'd be more along the lines of this.

Leafeon @ Leftovers
Impish [+Def, -Sp.Att]
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Att or Spe
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
-Wish
-Leaf Blade

Not to sure, I'm not prone to running Leafeon or many UU's for the matter outside of Uu battling.

Special Wall
Probopass -- Calm -- Leftovers?
-Stealth Rock
-Thunderwave
-Earth Power
-Flash Cannon
~Same problem as above with the item... I can never decide what items to give to my walls x3; But yeah, I'll probably start off with this guy, set up Stealth Rock, and try and Thunderwave as many enemies as I can before he gets taken out, which hopefully would take a while considering Probopass' high def and sp. def, although sp. def is the focus here.
Ok I guess.

Annoyer
Lopunny -- Jolly -- Lagging Tail/Full Incense/other bothersome item
-Switcheroo
-Toxic
-Ice Punch
-Filler. I'm not sure what this guy can learn xD.
~it took me so long to breed this guy Dx Jolly with Klutz... Yup, all this guy is meant to do is target an opponent's main force, probably a sweeper with high speed, and since he can't use any items because of Klutz, he goes in and Switcheroos to give that previously fast Pokemon an item that forces them to go last. Yay strategy? x3; I'm really looking forward to using this guy. Toxic to annoy people even more and Ice Punch as an offensive move, with Magic Coat for protection. n.n

Magic Coat and Toxic? lol no.
Extra Sweeper ??
Luxray -- Adamant -- Liechi Berry
-Spark
-Ice Fang
-Crunch
-Fire Fang?
~Ok, to be honest I am not really liking this guy. I'm just not sure what to fill this extra spot with... I don't really want/need another Sweeper, so... If anyone can give me an idea of what to have here instead of this Luxray, pleaaaaaase say so x3; I'm kind of at a loss here...


Annnd there's my team! Suggestions and such is greatly appreciated. Thanks much! :D

Well I'll rate away just though I would say right off :/ Labeling your dudes... come on.

If you want a label go with something along the lines of "This is my main check to Scizor..."
This isn't D/P days when Wall/Special Wall/Physical Sweeper... were necessary. You have the lovely ability to mix it up and cover as many common threats as humanly possible.

Really though, get some EV's up or I can't do much with the help.

 

[Kleinchen]

Ok, I took into consideration everything that everyone's been saying, and have come up with a new team based on the suggestions given here. n.n; So if you could all look at my new revised team, that would be great! C: Also, I apologize for the lack of EV spreads previously... An oversight on my part. Sorry! n.n;;

Typhlosion :: Choice Scarf :: Mild
144 Atk, 252 SpA, 112 Spe
-Eruption
-Focus Punch
-Overheat
-Earthquake


Gallade :: Life Orb :: Adamant
4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Night Slash


Clefable :: Leftovers :: Magic Guard :: Calm
252 Hp, 152 Def, 100 SpD, 4 Spe
-Thunder Wave
-Encore
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss

I have a question about this though... On Smogon, lots of Clefable movesets include Seismic Toss and Softboiled, but looking on Serebii, it didn't list either as available moves in any way for Clefairy/Clefable, whether TMs or egg moves or anything... So how would I go about getting those moves onto a Clefable? If someone could point me in the right direction that would be wonderful... My breeding skillz are about average at best so I'm a bit baffled here. n.n;;

Leafeon :: Leftovers :: Impish
252 Hp, 252 Def, 4 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Wish
-Baton Pass
-Leaf Blade


Lopunny :: Lagging Tail :: Klutz :: Jolly
252 Hp, 252 Spe, 4 SpD
-Switcheroo
-Toxic
-Charm
-Ice Punch


Mismagius :: Choice Scarf :: Timid
4 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
-Trick
-Taunt
-Shadow Ball
-Will-o-Wisp

HOWEVER, as I was looking over some of Mismagius' suggested movesets, I found one that I really like that I'm a bit more inclined to use... What do you think?

Mismagius :: Leftovers :: Calm
252 HP, 216 SpD, 40 Spe
-Mean Look
-Perish Song
-Protect
-Taunt

Obviously this one is not offensive in the slightest but meant to take out bulkier tanks such as Blissey, etc. Taunt to prevent being Roared out, Mean Look then Perish Song, stall with Protect then switch out before dying. I'm considering maybe switching Taunt for something else though? What do you think? n.n



Thanks so much for all your help, guys. I really appreciate it. C:

Also, @slowpokez: Yes, I realize Gallade is BL, but the people I usually battle against don't stick very strictly to tiers. So I may make another sweeper for primarily UU battles, but for just battles against my friends I'll stick with Gallade. Thanks though. :3