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ZachxStabyou

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    • Seen May 3, 2010
    Dragonite(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EV's: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP
    Nature: Jolly
    -Fire Punch
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Dance

    Gengar(M) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 64 HP / 252 S.Atk / 192 Spe
    Nature: Modest (+SpA, - Atk)
    -Shadow Ball
    -Mega Drain
    -Psychic
    -Thunderbolt
    I figured i might as well try megadrain, and if i dont like it i can change it later.

    Gliscor(M)@Lefovers
    Ability: Hyper Cutter
    EV's: 252 HP / 188 Def / 72 Spd
    Nature: Impish (+Def, -SpA)
    - Ice Fang
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Roost

    Charizard(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Blaze
    EV's: 252 Spd / 252 SpA/ 6 HP
    Nature:Timid
    -Heat Wave
    -Air Slash
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast

    Starmie(M)@leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    172 HP / 120 SpA/ 216 Spd
    Nature: Timid
    - Thunderbolt
    - Surf
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover

    Snorlax(M)@ Leftovers
    Ability: Thick Fat
    EV's: 252 HP / 28 Def/ 236 SpD
    Nature:Careful (+SpD, -SpA)
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Body Slam
    [PokeCommunity.com] Rate my team!
    -Crunch
     
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    I gave Dragonite the berry for when he uses outrage and becomes confused. And being his speed/attack will be high, it'll be hit faint hit faint hit faint confused(Or thats the plan), eat the berry, and start all over.
     
    Aggron should be removed.Why? Aggron gets slaughtered by Ground and Fighting types.Both are very common types and there's one pokemon which is common that can use both and kill Aggron.It's named,Salamence.So remove that and get some other wall such as Forretress or Skarmory or Donphan.
     
    Hmmm how about Steelix??

    Steelix (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Rock Head
    EV's: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Spd
    Nature:Impish (+Def, -SpA)
    -Iron Tail
    -Earthquake
    -Double Edge
    -Stone Edge


    Hmmm.....
     
    If you're going to have Lapras, Dragonite and Charizard in the same team, you need a spinner, as Lapras and Dragonite take 25% damage from Stealth Rock, and Charizard takes 50%. A few spinners that you could use are Forretress and Starmie.

    Aggron is easily taken out by either fighting or ground moves, even with his high defence, so don't use him, use a better Physical Wall such as Donphan, Skarmory etc.

    You lack a special wall to soak up special attacks, Blissey is one special wall you could use.

    Also, what is Persim berry doing on Dragonite, confusion can be cured by a simple switch, Leftovers/Yache Berry (helps you actually survive an ice attack usually, but not recommend) or Life Orb, and Earthquake and Fire Punch over Aqua Tail and Aerial Ace, Fire and Ground provide better coverage than water and flying.

    On Gengar, Choice Scarf over Wise Glasses, Focus Blast over Dark Pulse and Hypnosis over Psychic.

    EDIT:

    Do you think a pokemon with a Base Defence of 200 needs much Defense investment? I thought not, better set to use from Smogon:

    Steelix @ Leftovers
    Impish Nature
    EVs: 252 HP/120 Atk/136 SpD
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Toxic/Stone Edge
    -Explosion

    It needs the Special Defense EVs to help it actually take a special hit, as it's Special Defense Base stat is only 65.
     
    ZachxStabyou said:
    Dragonite(M) @ Lum berry/Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EV's: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP
    Nature: Jolly
    -Fire Punch
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Dance


    yeah, Dragon, Ground and Fire hit everything in the game for at least neutral, by this i mean nothing resists the above set.


    Gengar(M) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 64 HP / 252 S.Atk / 192 Spe
    Nature: Modest (+SpA, - Atk)
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hypnosis / Hidden power Ice
    -Psychic
    -Thunderbolt


    lolwut ? Dark pulse, has the same coverage as Ghost, so is redundant. Modest with Choice Scarf Plesh otherwise it wants timid.



    Aggron(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Rock Head
    EV's: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Spd
    Nature:Impish (+Def, -SpA)
    -Iron Tail
    -Earthquake
    -Double Edge
    -Iron Defence


    FAIL, no honestly, people have already said why its bad, so get a better wall.

    Charizard(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Blaze
    EV's: 252 Spd / 252 SP.ATT / 6 HP
    Nature: Modest /Timid
    -Heat Wave
    -Air Slash
    -Dragon pulse
    -Focus Blast


    Yeah..., without a Spinner, id advise you ti get a better poke as this dies to stealth rock

    Lapras(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Shell Armor
    EV's: 126 SpD/ 126 SpA/ 126 HP/ 126 Def / 4 Spd
    Nature:Calm (+SpD,-Atk)
    -Ice Beam
    -Hydro Pump
    -Thunderbolt
    -Psychic

    As does this.....


    Gallade(M)@ Leftovers
    Ability: Steadfasts
    EV's: 64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spe
    Nature:Adamant (+Atk.-SpA)
    -Ice Punch
    -Psycho Cut
    -Close Combat
    -Night Slash

    Yeah, Ice Punch or your Gliscor food.
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    Changes are in bold

    You need a special wall, id get rid of Lapras, its dead weight for this team. Same with Charizard, and without a Rapid Spinner, you loose your special sweepers very quickly. So add a spinner....

    SO things to do

    - Better Physical wall >> Aggron NOT STEELIX, that dies to EQ and fighting moves aswell. Something such as Gliscor would be nice and you need a solid fighting resist for namely Breloom and Heracross and it also helps with T-tar to an extent, and with Dragons..

    Gliscor@lefovers
    252 HP / 188 DEF / 72 SPEED
    Impish nature
    - Ice Fang
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Roost

    - Starmie >> Lapras is what id suggest

    Starmie@leftovers
    172 HP / 120 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
    Timid Nature
    Trait : Natural Cure
    - Thunderbolt
    - Surf
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover

    Try that.

    - Special wall you still need, >> Either Dragonite or Gallade.......
     
    Dragonite(M) @ Persim Berry
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EV's: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP
    Nature: Jolly (+Spd, -SpA)
    -Fire Punch
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Dance/Brick Break/Arial Ace

    Gengar(M) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 64 HP / 252 S.Atk / 192 Spe
    Nature: Modest (+SpA, - Atk)
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hypnosis/Giga Drain
    -Psychic
    -Thunderbolt

    Im not to sure if im digging the Hypnosis, Which one of the two should i use?


    Heracross(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Guts/Swarm
    EV's: 252 Atk / 126 Hp / 126 SpD
    Nature: Careful (+SpD,-SpA)
    -Megahorn
    -Close Combat/Brick Break?
    -Arial Ace/Earthquke/Stone Edge?
    -Night Slash/Shadow Claw?


    Charizard(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Blaze
    EV's: 252 Spd / 252 SP.ATT / 6 HP
    Nature:Timid (+Spd,-Atk)
    -Heat Wave
    -Air Slash
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast


    Starmie(M)@leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    172 HP / 120 SpA/ 216 Spd
    Nature: Timid(+Spd,-Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Surf
    - Psychic
    - Recover/Ice Beam?

    Gallade(M)@ Leftovers
    Ability: Steadfasts
    EV's: 64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 SpD
    Nature:Adamant (+Atk.-SpA)
    -Ice Punch
    -Psycho Cut
    -Close Combat
    -Night Slash



    Hmm how about all of those changes?
     
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    ZachxStabyou said:
    Dragonite(M) @ Persim Berry
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EV's: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP
    Nature: Jolly (+Spd, -SpA)
    -Fire Punch
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Dance/Brick Break/Arial Ace

    Gengar(M) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 64 HP / 252 S.Atk / 192 Spe
    Nature: Modest (+SpA, - Atk)
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hypnosis/Giga Drain
    -Psychic
    -Thunderbolt

    Im not to sure if im digging the Hypnosis, Which one of the two should i use?


    Heracross(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Guts/Swarm
    EV's: 252 Atk / 126 Hp / 126 SpD
    Nature: Careful (+SpD,-SpA)
    -Megahorn
    -Close Combat/Brick Break?
    -Arial Ace/Earthquke/Stone Edge?
    -Night Slash/Shadow Claw?


    Charizard(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Blaze
    EV's: 252 Spd / 252 SP.ATT / 6 HP
    Nature:Timid (+Spd,-Atk)
    -Heat Wave
    -Air Slash
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast


    Starmie(M)@leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    172 HP / 120 SpA/ 216 Spd
    Nature: Timid(+Spd,-Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Surf
    - Psychic
    - Recover/Ice Beam?

    Gallade(M)@ Leftovers
    Ability: Steadfasts
    EV's: 64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 SpD
    Nature:Adamant (+Atk.-SpA)
    -Ice Punch
    -Psycho Cut
    -Close Combat
    -Night Slash



    Hmm how about all of those changes?
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    it looks better, take out Heracross and put in that Gliscor i gave you. Also take out one of either Dragonite or Gallade and put in a special wall, namely Blissey or Snorlax....


    You need walls dude, or you wont last long...
     
    Dragonite(M) @ Persim Berry
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EV's: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP
    Nature: Jolly
    -Fire Punch
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Dance

    Gengar(M) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 64 HP / 252 S.Atk / 192 Spe
    Nature: Modest (+SpA, - Atk)
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hypnosis
    -Psychic
    -Thunderbolt
    I Figured a Gengar with Mega Drain would be wierd.

    Gliscor(M)@Lefovers
    Ability: Hyper Cutter
    EV's: 252 HP / 188 Def / 72 Spd
    Nature: Impish (+Def, -SpA)
    - Ice Fang
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Roost

    Charizard(M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Blaze
    EV's: 252 Spd / 252 SpA/ 6 HP
    Nature:Timid
    -Heat Wave
    -Air Slash
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast

    Starmie(M)@leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    172 HP / 120 SpA/ 216 Spd
    Nature: Timid
    - Thunderbolt
    - Surf
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover

    Snorlax(M)@ Leftovers
    Ability: Thick Fat
    EV's: 126 Spd/ 126 Def/ 126 Hp/ 126 Atk/ 4 Spd
    Nature:Careful (+SpD, -SpA)
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Body Slam
    -Crunch
     
    Its far easier to edit the original team than post it half way down the page.
    Gotta go so just a few points:
    *Different item on dragonite please, chances are they will have switched in a counter as soon as you're locked into outrage, so you'll only be switching aswell.
    *Those snowlax EVs are Ewwwww, but im no expert on him so ill leave that to someone else
    *Yes mega drain gengar would be weird, it would also suck bigtime.
    Looks ok at first glance, ill rate fully tomorrow :)
     
    This looks much much better.


    Snorlax evs 252 HP / 28 DEF / 236 SP.DEF
     
    IMO snorlax runs a 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef spread better. The Def EVs don't really help and the extra SDef...it can come in handy, especially when a sandstorm is active and Nasty Plot Azelf is terrifying you lol
     
    Anti-Pop said:
    IMO snorlax runs a 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef spread better. The Def EVs don't really help and the extra SDef...it can come in handy, especially when a sandstorm is active and Nasty Plot Azelf is terrifying you lol
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    Well, the extra defense doesn't make much of a difference, but neither does the extra SDEF.

    BTW, DA, it's not 252 HP, 28 DEF, 236 SDEF, it's 244 HP, 28 DEF, 236 SDEF.
     
    The extra SDef will make a difference. If is often the difference between a 2HKO and a 3HKO from the likes of Nasty Plot Azelf.
     
    Okey. That is a messed up team because you have Dragonite a Dragon/Flying and Charizard a Fire/Flying and Gliscor a Ground/Flying.

    So really get rid of two of them. It's fine but it's way off!
     
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