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[cwidderb]

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This team usually gets pretty far against teams then fails to finish off the last pokemon :(
so it looks like it needs looking at....

Spiritomb@leftovers
Adamant

252 HP / 140 Atk / 116 SpD

Pursuit
Willowisp
Sucker punch
Shadow punch

This is fun trying to kill azelf or gengar leads as they try to run away.


Snorlax@lum berry
Careful

168 HP / 120 Def / 220 SpD

Body slam
Pursuit
recycle
Rest

walls a few special attacks then rests wakes up and recycles so loses all the risk of sleep talk.


Azelf@Expert belt
Naive

36 HP / 252 SpA / 220 Spe

Nasty plot
Psychic
Flamethrower
Shadow ball

Dont like life orb because of its recoil, so i use expert belt instead, nasty plots and kills a few things.

Forretress@leftovers
Relaxed

252 HP / 162 Atk / 96 Def

Explosion
Stealth rock
Rapid spin
Toxic spikes

Pretty basic and lame spinner/spiker but pretty darn effective.

Vaporeon@leftovers
Bold

188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpA

Substitute
Surf
Baton pass
Wish

switches in on an expected water move, Sets up some subs for azelf to sweep with. Or it wishes that the others have more HP.

Weavile@choice band
Naughty

40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe

Aerial ace
Ice shard
Pursuit
Brick break

Likes to revenge kill stuff. Used to be a lead but its an element of surprise.

Get rid of Shadow Punch on Spiritomb. It doesn't do anything for you to be honest. Give it Pain Split instead.

Lum Berry + Rest = Horrible combination. Go with the Rest Talk set

Snorlax @ Leftovers
244 HP/28 Def/236 SpD
Careful
Rest
Sleep Talk
Body Slam
Crunch/Earthquake

I'd also advise using either Tbolt or Grass Knot over Shadow Ball for Azelf. STAB Psychic hurts anything that doesn't resist it already.

Aerial Ace sucks for Weavile. Give it Ice Punch so you can do damage to the things you already outspeed.

 

[sims796]

I also say go with Life Orb on Azelf. Personally, if you're having trouble eliminating the last poke, a possible hint is that you are too "conservative" to go all out. Man up & give it LO >:[ Same with Snorlax. While you punk out & try to use a corney chesto Recycle strategy, you are leaving yourself wide open.

Other than Resttalk, I never heard of Spiritomb without Pain Split.

I also hate Aerial Ace on Weavile, but I hate flying moves in general...

 

[Dark Azelf]

I use recycle over rest and sleeptalk because i hate the unpredictability of it i would much rather be awake using a pursuit on a ghost type than radomly whilst asleep using body slam on it


its not unpredictable, its for absorbing status and giving Lum Berry to a wall sapping it of its leftovers recovery just flat out sucks.

And lol Recycle fails IIRC when your asleep, so get rid of it naow for sleep talk !!

Does Snorlax really need pursuit aswell ? You have Tomb for Azelf and gengar, so use Earthquake >>it, for Heatran.

Weavile can get both Ice Punch AND pursuit from breeding IIrc.


Spiritomb also sucks without Pain Split, so >>Shadow Punch.Taunt is also useful >> Pursuit or sucker punch.



Gyarados poops on you, Hidden power Electric/Surf/ice beam/Wish on vappy plox.

 

[Skip Shot]

Snorlax needs EQ over pursuit. U already have that on weavile and spiritomb, anyways.

Also, using a lum berry for a lseepin snorlax then recycling is for ladies who sit around and gossip all day. Seriously, use Rest and Sleep Talk. If you don't like sleep talk, switch to another special wall with a recovery move that isn't rest (like Blissey).

 

[cow94]

Spiritomb @Leftovers
Careful - Pressure
-Sucker Punch
-Taunt
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
Standard moveset for Spiritomb. Works well and really fun to use.


Snorlax @Leftovers
Careful - Thick Fat
-Curse
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Rest
Curse up and then sweep and when you loose HP sleep.


Azelf @Expert Belt
Timid - Levitate
-Nasty Plot
-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Grass Knot
Azelf is great.

Forretress @Leftovers
Relaxed - Sturdy
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Rapid Spin
-Gyro Ball/Earthquake
-Explosion
Stealth rock and toxic spikes is a little bit of an overkill. I like explosion better.

Vaporeon was fine.

Weavile is fine, but should have a JOLLY nature.

That is all.

 

[Lalapizzame]

Please do consider HP Fighting on Azelf so Houndoom and Heatran won't lol at you and kill you with Dark Pulse and Fire Blast, respectively.