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imevil

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    My gen 4 team isnt as good as i want it to be. I need help.
    Team
    Bronzong @ Focus Band
    Adament Nature
    Levitate
    Earthquake
    Explosion
    Psycic
    Stealth Rock
    EV's- 252 Def, 252 Special Def, 6 Speed

    Salamence @ Expert Belt
    Loneley Nature
    Intimidate
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Outrage
    Stone Edge
    EV's-255 attack, 149 Spattack, 100 Sp Def,- 6 speed

    Gyarados @ Life Orb
    Relaxed Nature
    Intimidate
    Dragon Dance
    Waterfall
    Earthquake
    Blizzard (want to change)
    EV's- 252 attack, 252 Spattack, 6 hp

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm Nature
    Natural Cure
    Flamethrower
    Heal Bell
    Soft Boiled
    Sing
    EV's- 255 hp, 255 spdef

    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Poison Heal
    Lonely Nature
    Facade
    Spore
    Seed Bomb
    Sky Uppercut
    EV's-252 attack,200 HP, 52 def

    Nidoking @ Muscle Band
    Poison Point
    Adament Nature
    Earthquake
    Fire Punch
    Ice Punch
    Megahorn
    EV's- 252 attack, 252 speed, 6 spattack

    Strategy-
    Start out with Bronzong, lay down a stealth rock. See if I can take down my opponent. If i can, I will. If not i switch to Gyarados or Salamence, my sweepers. If they get in trouble I use Blissey to wall my opponents, than send Breloom to start ripping attacks off. My last resort is my versatile Nidoking, who actually once has taken down 5 of my opponents pokemon.

    constructive critisism is wanted. plese help
     
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    Remove surf teach gyra waterfall give it life orb or expert belt . Remove healing wish from bliss teach it heal bell remove flamethrower from salamence give it eartgquake if this is the physical sweeper set if it's mixmence ignore above. For breloom consider replacing superpower with sku uc as -attack and defence hurts
     
    made the changes, thanks rlyn... anyone else
     
    Draco plate to expert belt for menace and change leftovers to something else as rules forbid the use of the same item
     
    This needs a lot of work.
    imevil said:
    My gen 4 team isnt as good as i want it to be. I need help.
    Team
    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Adamant Nature
    Levitate
    Earthquake
    Explosion
    Gyro Ball / Hypnosis
    Stealth Rock
    EV's- 252 Def, 252 Special Def, 6 HP

    Bronzong doesn't need Speed, and adamant nature hurts psychic. You need Gyro ball or you're not going to be able to hurt Aerodactyl seriously.

    Salamence @ Life Orb
    Naughty / Jolly Nature
    Intimidate
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Outrage
    Stone Edge
    EV's-252 attack, 252 Speed, 6 Special Atk
    You want to maximize your attack to murder people right? Salamence doesn't need Special Defense. Most Special oriented moves OHKO Salamence anyway (Draco Meteor / Ice Beam) the works.

    (this set is Smogon)

    Gyarados @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature
    Intimidate
    Dragon Dance
    Waterfall
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    EV's- 252 attack, 252 Speed, 6 hp
    Gyara's SpA is crappy. Don't use it.

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm Nature
    Natural Cure
    Flamethrower
    Heal Bell
    Soft Boiled
    Thunder Wave
    EV's- 252 hp, 252 Defense, 6SpA

    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Poison Heal
    Lonely Nature
    Facade
    Spore
    Seed Bomb
    Sky Uppercut
    EV's-252 attack,200 HP, 52 def

    Nidoking @ Choice Band
    Poison Point
    Adament Nature
    Earthquake
    Thunder Punch
    Superpower
    Megahorn
    EV's- 252 attack, 252 speed, 6 spattack

    Nidoking doesn't have enough power. Choice Band is neccessary. Since you're not going to stay in as much (Choice Band) Superpower is sufficient. Would have preferred Close Combat, but Nidoking doesn't get it. But Ground/ Elec / Fighting / Bug, I think that gives enough coverage.

    Strategy-
    Start out with Bronzong, lay down a stealth rock. See if I can take down my opponent. If i can, I will. If not i switch to Gyarados or Salamence, my sweepers. If they get in trouble I use Blissey to wall my opponents, than send Breloom to start ripping attacks off. My last resort is my versatile Nidoking, who actually once has taken down 5 of my opponents pokemon.

    constructive critisism is wanted. plese help
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    imevil said:
    My gen 4 team isnt as good as i want it to be. I need help.
    Team
    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Sassy Nature
    Levitate
    Earthquake
    Explosion
    Gyro Ball
    Stealth Rock
    EV's- 252 HP/84 Atk/80 Def/92 SDef

    Salamence @ Expert Belt/Life Orb/Lum Berry
    Naughty/Naive Nature
    Intimidate
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Outrage
    Fire Blast
    EV's- 252 Atk/32 SAtk/224 Spe

    Gyarados @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature
    Intimidate
    Dragon Dance
    Waterfall
    Earthquake
    Ice Fang/Stone Edge
    EV's- 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm Nature
    Natural Cure
    Flamethrower
    Heal Bell
    Soft Boiled
    Wish/Toxic
    EV's- 255 hp, 255 spdef

    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Poison Heal
    Jolly Nature
    Facade
    Spore
    Seed Bomb
    Sky Uppercut
    EV's-4 HP/252 attack/252 Spe

    Nidoking @ Muscle Band
    Poison Point
    Adament Nature
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Sucker Punch
    Megahorn
    EV's- 4 HP/252 attack, 252 speed

    Strategy-
    Start out with Bronzong, lay down a stealth rock. See if I can take down my opponent. If i can, I will. If not i switch to Gyarados or Salamence, my sweepers. If they get in trouble I use Blissey to wall my opponents, than send Breloom to start ripping attacks off. My last resort is my versatile Nidoking, who actually once has taken down 5 of my opponents pokemon.

    constructive critisism is wanted. plese help
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    Comments/suggestions in bold.
     
    The extra two EVs don't make any difference since four EVs = one stat point. Six EVs are unnecessary in this case, however it really doesn't make that much of a difference.
     
    I understand that, but I appreciate full EVs more. I think it's just a matter of style.
     
    Salamence is Uber so it cannot be used anymore. Dragonite runs a fine DD set so it's not a big loss loss though.

    Outside of that, the biggest thing that strikes me about this team is its lackluster defenses on the physical side of things. Obviously, Blissey is going to hold her own against the majority of special attackers. It's going to need 252 HP / 252 Def @ Bold for the EV spread & nature though because Special Defense EVs are mostly redundant. While it is true that Blissey isn't meant to be taking physical hits, sometimes it has to and it will get smashed by even very weak physical attacks without Defense EVs. Also, Sing is really way too inaccurate to be relied on, and with Breloom's Spore being the more worthy way to use your one sleep before Sleep Clause activated, Toxic or thunder Wave are both better choices. You'll also probably want to fit Seismic Toss in over Flamethrower or Heal Bell, depending on which one has proven more valuable to you as you've used this team.

    Since Salamence is going to have to be replaced anyway, we might as well use its empty slot and fill it with a good wall Pokemon, or if you prefer a more offensive approach, Choice Scarfers are available to do some revenge killing. Jirachi or Flygon are probably your best bets. They both take on different things but common targets like Gyarados and Dragonite give you some grief, so both will be beneficial. If you prefer a safer approach with a wall Pokemon, Vaporeon is highly recommended for its ability to beat some Infernape and just about every Gyarados you can possibly imagine. It also beats Empoleon and CroCune. You can use Suicune as well or even make it a bulky sweeper with its offensive Calm Mind set. However, it has more utility than most sweepers since it can switch in on a lot of Pokemon and gives a lot of problems to common threats, especially Gyarados and Heatran. It also gives -1 SDef Lucario trouble with Surf if it's running a Timid nature.

    If you want a last resort Pokemon, there are better choices than Nidoking. As cool as Nidoking is, it's quite a bit underpowered :( An awesome late-game sweeper to use is Swords Dance Scizor, who like offensive CM Suicune has usefulness when it comes to stopping your opponent thanks to its potent Bullet Punch. A lot of people aren't prepared for this, and it can really sweep people clean. Breloom can Spore its counters which helps a lot. Another good one is Dragonite if you think you'll miss Salamence. It's not as good but still does a fine job.

    There is a lot of upside here. Once the defensive issues are worked out this looks to be a solid team.
     
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