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[Lalapizzame]

Salamence@Choice Specs
Intimidate
6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed
Mild
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Hydro Pump
Flamethrower

This thing had helped me since it KOs things such as Gyarados for me and it's pretty strong. I didn't breed for Modest because this one was pretty good anyway and it's ability makes up for it.

Heracross@Flame Orb
Guts
6 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
Jolly
Substitute
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge

Substitute is there so that it can avoid status and gain the boost from Flame Orb and get an extra hit to survive.The other moves are for coverage and strength.


Gardevoir@Life Orb
Synchronize
6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed
Modest
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Wish
Shadow Ball

Ludicolo@Leftovers
Rain Dish
252 HP/6 Special Attack/252 Special Defense
Sassy
Surf
Ice Beam
Leech Seed
Protect

This is just a special wall to wall things like Mismagius.

Claydol@Leftovers
Levitate
248 HP/134 Defense/128 Special Defense
Sassy
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Reflect
Rapid Spin

This is a standard, Rapid Spinning Claydol.


Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen Eye
252 HP/252 Defense/Special Defense
Impish
Drill Peck
Whirlwind
Spikes
Roost

This thing wall physical hits for me.It's very bulky and Drill Peck is there instead of Brave Bird since the damage of recoil could cause it's death.By which I mean it would be too slow to Roost off the damage.Other then that,it's your standard Skarmory.

I will accept all comments as long as they are helpful and not spam.

I have the whole team already bred and EV trained so I can't change their egg moves and other things.

Should I change my Gardevoir into one of these?

Pidgeot@Focus Sash
Keen Eye
252 HP/182 Special Attack/76 Speed
Mild
Air Slash
Featherdance
U-Turn
Roost

A support Pidgeot.

Alakazam@Choice Specs*
Synchronize
6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed
Timid
Psychic
Shadow Ball/HP Fire/Trick
Focus Blast
Grass Knot

Standard Choice Specs Alakazam.




*:I have not bred or EV trained this yet.



Changes so far:
-Pelipper was switched into Skarmory for obvious walling abilities.
-Bronzong was switched into Claydol for Rapid Spinning and losing a Fire Type weakness.
-Gardevoir's Focus Blast was switched into Wish because of Life Orb damage.
-Ludicolo has switched with Walrein as my special wall.


Things I'm considering:
-Changing Gardevoir seeing that everyone like Alakazam over her.
-Changing Heracross into a Swords Dancing Flame Orb Heracross as suggested by Dark_Azelf.

Why I'm considering things instead of doing it immediately:
The Gardevoir issue:
I'm considering becuase it has Thunderbolt in it's movepool while Alakazam does not and it's bulkier then Alakazam.
The Walrein issue:
There are so far no pokemon that can replace this one and it helps the badly needed Ice resistance in this team for Salamence.
The Heracross issue:
Swords Dance requires setting up and it could die to a priority move after barely surviving the attack while setting up.

 

[Walrein]

Salamence-why not a physical sweeper?
Bronzong should have Calm Mind.
Pelipper is awful.

 

[Dunsparce]

1) Specs Mence needs Fire Blast over Flamethrower to hit harder
2) Bronzong should use Earthquake over Psychic for better coverage
3) Use Skarmory over Pelipper
4) Too many 6/252/252 Spreads
5) Gardevoir should have more of a supporting role. If you want a sweeping Psychic type, use Alakazam

 

[fullpokedonut]

Salamence-why not a physical sweeper?
Bronzong should have Calm Mind.
Pelipper is awful.

Salamence has the potential to OHKO a lot of stuff with Draco Meteor and Choice Specs while a physical one does not.A Salamence's Draco Meteor could OHKO a Machamp,Gyarados and a Swampert.While It's strongest physical move, Dragon Claw, cannot do so.Bronzong should not have Calm Mind.Why? Becuase it's Special Defense is already high and Psychic isn't going to hit hard anyway.How is Pelipper awful?

1) Specs Mence needs Fire Blast over Flamethrower to hit harder
2) Bronzong should use Earthquake over Psychic for better coverage
3) Use Skarmory over Pelipper
4) Too many 6/252/252 Spreads
5) Gardevoir should have more of a supporting role. If you want a sweeping Psychic type, use Alakazam

Thanks for the info. Salamence can't afford to miss,though.I will try to get an Earthquake TM and I already bred and EV trained a Skarmory with Impish Nature so ok.What EV spread should I give them then?I'm considering Alakazam but Gardevoir has Thunderbolt.This is lalapizzame but I forgot my password and email.

 

[El Gofre]

I agree with the first statement you made, but pelipper is really quite bad. Its stats are below par and it has a quad weakness to one of the most common moves in the game- Tbolt. There's nopt much it can do.
Bronzong with calm mind is ok, depends if you go for the special attack or gyro/EQ set

 

[Dani_X]

Salamence@Choice Specs
Intimidate
6 hp / 252 sp.atk / 252 speed
Mild
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Hydro Pump
Flamethrower

This thing had helped me since it KOs things such as Gyarados for me and it's pretty strong. I didn't breed for Modest because this one was pretty good anyway and it's ability makes up for it.


Heracross@Flame Orb
Guts
6 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
Adamant

Substitute / Protect
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge

Substitute is there so that it can avoid status and gain the boost from Flame Orb and get an extra hit to survive.The other moves are for coverage and strength.


Alakazam@Choice Specs
Synchronize
6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed
Timid
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Grass Knot

Walrein@Leftovers
Ice Body
252 HP/6 Special Attack/252 Speed
Sassy
Hail
Encore
Surf
Ice Beam

This is my special wall and it gets lot of health recovery thanks to Hail and Leftovers.Encore traps Wobuffet or stat boostin pokemon if they want to Counter my Heracross or stat boost.Surf and Ice Beam are for STAB and to kill Garchomp and Salamence or Dragonite if needed.


Bronzong@Leftovers
Levitate
252 hp / 152 def / 108 sp.def
Sassy
Gyro Ball
Explosion / Earthquake
Hypnosis
Reflect

This is my special wall.Reflect helps for physical hits and Hypnosis sleeps stuff, and Gyro Ball and Psychic are STAB moves to hit things.



Pelipper@Wacan Berry
Keen Eyes
224 HP/182 Defense/104 Special Attack
Impish
Surf
Roost
Toxic
Stockpile

This is my physical wall and it's pretty simple to use.If it can't hit, then It will use Toxic and Stockpile so that the opponent dies while barely touching this thing.It will Roost if it is low on health.Wacan berry is there so that it can survive a Thunderbolt if it does not have STAB boost.


I will accept all comments as long as they are helpful and not spam.

Don't use Pelipper. He fails in life.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Don't use Pelipper. He fails in life.

Hes not bad in UU, it has base 100 def, makes an ok tank or specs user, but this is OU i assume hence all the other OU pokes lol. So yeah get a better physical wall.....


Have you considered Swords Dance on that Heracross, its really deadly,


Heracross @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 104 HP/252 Atk/152 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance
- Megahorn


Really nice set i found in a RMT thread on smogon.

AFter a swords dance : -

Close Combat vs Max HP/Def Skarmory: 107.49% - 126.35% OHKO

Close Combat vs Max HP/Def Hippowdon: 96.43% - 113.57% Almost always a OHKO

Stone Edge vs 212 HP/180 Def Gyarados(After Intimidate): 135.42% - 159.38% OHKO

Stone Edge vs Max HP/Def Weezing: 66.77% - 78.44% 2HKO

Megahorn vs Max HP/Def Cresselia: 180.63% - 212.39% OHKO

Close Combat vs Max HP/Def Blissey: 319.19% - 375.63% << lol

Stone Edge vs Max HP/Def Gliscor: 61.30% - 72.03% 2HKO

=)

 

[Lalapizzame]

I'm really sorry but this is my thread right? So I don't see the edit button.Can anyone help me locate it?
EDIT: Now I see it.

 

[El Gofre]

Bottom right, next to quote

 

[Dani_X]

Yeah, i was comparing Pelipper to OU's like Gliscor, Hippowdon, Skarmory, Cressy, etc.

 

[Lalapizzame]

Hes not bad in UU, it has base 100 def, makes an ok tank or specs user, but this is OU i assume hence all the other OU pokes lol. So yeah get a better physical wall.....


Have you considered Swords Dance on that Heracross, its really deadly,


Heracross @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 104 HP/252 Atk/152 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance
- Megahorn


Really nice set i found in a RMT thread on smogon.

AFter a swords dance : -



=)

I did use a Swords Dance Flame Orb Heracross once but it was Jolly so it could outrun base 90 speed things and DDancing Salamence.

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Thank you.It turns out it appeared after refreshing the page.

 

[Dunsparce]

Don't use Pelipper. He fails in life.

You made a mistake.

'Zam can't use Thunderbolt. :/

These Are the electric Attacks e can learn

Shock Wave: too weak
Charge Beam: Raises Special Attack, but doesn't do much mroe than that
Thunderpunch: It's physical now, so it's useless
Thunder Wave: Doesn't do any damage.

Other Special moves: Psychic Attacks galore, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Energy ball, Hidden Power, Grass Knot, and Hyper Beam. Hyper Beam Sucks, so I and since Psychic, Focus Blast, and Grass Knot are on it, I guess Shadow Ball is they way to go, unless you're willing to breed for a good Hidden Power.

 

[Dani_X]

Omg! Me = dumbass

Use Hidden Power Fire instead.

 

[El Gofre]

Cant stop for a full rate, but why in the name of all things holy does that flame-orb hera NOT have facade? It is seriously excellent on it, change now!

 

[Lalapizzame]

Cant stop for a full rate, but why in the name of all things holy does that flame-orb hera NOT have facade? It is seriously excellent on it, change now!

It doesn't have Facade because Normal Type attacks don't have any type coverage.Although I'll put it on my To Consider list.

 

[El Gofre]

Coverage isnt all too important, facade's base power double to 140 with status conditions and gets a 1.5 guts moost, making a mighty 210. Thats almost explosion-level kiling there. It's seriously great, i recommend you try it out.

 

[Lalapizzame]

Coverage isnt all too important, facade's base power double to 140 with status conditions and gets a 1.5 guts moost, making a mighty 210. Thats almost explosion-level kiling there. It's seriously great, i recommend you try it out.

OK.I'll seriously consider it seeing as even Super effective Stone Edge can't be as strong as it.The STAB moves too.

 

[Anti]

Bronzong and skarmory on the same team is doing you no favors. Ditch one for a bulky ground, preferably Donphan seeing your lack of Rapid Spin support.

Also Walrein does nothing for this team and the set is even worse for it, so in all honesty I'd scrap it.

 

[Lalapizzame]

Bronzong and skarmory on the same team is doing you no favors. Ditch one for a bulky ground, preferably Donphan seeing your lack of Rapid Spin support.

Also Walrein does nothing for this team and the set is even worse for it, so in all honesty I'd scrap it.

I'll put Claydol instead of Bronzong since I had it up as a replacement for Gardevoir.What should I replace Walrein with?Walrein is very helpful with Salamence's Ice Weakness though.

 

[Anti]

Um you did have Bronzong to take ice attacks :P There are so many steels that make better ice resists than Wall-rein. Put a special wall over it...you don't have one ._.