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^ has raised a good point, actually. How the heck does something like Muk even EXIST?
 
Okay this is kinda tricky. The potion. Very good assumption. another way of doing that is by having a healing type medicine with a steroid in it, but not so much that it's like an illegal drug, just enough to speed up the healing process. Kinda like how sometimes babies are born w/ certain problems and need steroids to survive, you know?

Muk.Muk's body is composed of a more jelly like substance. It's kind of like a jelly fish that can move on land, is made up of a thicker jelly like substance and has eyes.

I haven't given potions a lot of thought.
 
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Muk could also be a giant unicellular blob, a giant amoeba.

Oh, and judging by how fast potions heal, they could be some kind of nanomachine spray that stitches together wounds and accelerates healing on the molecular level, it's the only way I can imagine a totally topical medicine healing the most greivous of wounds.
 
Inkfingers said:
Fire breathing: great assumption gymnotide but it is wrong. fire breathing is caused by the grinding of iron pyrite and flint. a pokemon that has the ability to breathe has two sacs located on the pallet and lower jaw. They take the metals and store them seperately in each sac, flint on top. when the pokemon breathes fire, it uses its tongue to release the metals and they fall into its back teeth used for grinding and grinds the flint and iron pyrite to ignite it. The pokemon has a large amount of hydrogen stored in a third lung that is smaller than the other two. It breathes outward very hard to get to fire to spurt out of its mouth. Fire type pokemon have very large amounts of saliva that it uses to cover the teeth, tongue, and inner mouth to protect its mouth from be burned or melted. However, there is not enough saliva to douse the fire. once then pokemon stops breathing out, the fire stops.
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lol. I like how you completely refute my completely plausible theory with that... Well.

The problem is that given the nature of glands and / or sacs in the body, they would need to be comprised of muscular tissue, lined with heavy epithelium. The palate is hard and impervious to most substances, due to the proximity of the mouth cavity to the upper skull. The bottom is laden with salivary glands, which cannot afford to be displaced for other structures. Since the glands you mention are located in the palate and the jaw, your theory is an impossibility. The top is simply too hard and neither side has enough room to store such glands.

In addition, the material mentioned would be completely out of question, given their natures. Bodies cannot produce flint nor pyrite, and therefore must consume it from an outside source. In addition, flint is very easily degraded, and over time will become powdery and inefficient in making a fire. The Pokemon would need to continually consume flint to renew its fire-breathing ability. Both grainy substances would harm the vital glands, the brain, or otherwise. Not all Pokemon eat such materials. Furthermore, flint and pyrite cannot be placed further back in the mouth or else they will cut the spinal cord, thyroid, etc. Flint maybe, but definitely not pyrite. It would function like a gizzard.

Hydrogen gas is completely implausible. Since hydrogen is half as light as oxygen gas, it will float. The lung within would rise and the body would also slightly elevate. This also limits the amount of hydrogen gases present in the body, since if the lung was a large enough mass, the body would be unable to keep itself grounded. Given the fact that Pokemon can sustrain flame-based attacks for long periods of time, it is improbable that such an organ exists, since it would require a large amount of gases (and therefore a larger lung). Since you describe the substance as a "lung," it must continually exchange the hydrogen gas, which there simply isn't enough of in the world - 1 part per million in air. If it were a hydrogen-filled sac, the same problem arises. There is just simply not enough hydrogen to refill the sacs. In addition, the amount of gas released would only cause a small EXPLOSION, not a stream of flames. The Pokemon's head would explode. Hydrogen gas also spontaneously combusts at 560 degrees - Pokemon living in volcanoes and those hit with flame-based attacks would surely explode.

And the saliva thing. Don't be silly. Saliva cannot possibly ward away a fire. It would heat up like boiling water and sear the inner membrane of the mouth. Then, it would evaporate and the hot fumes would bombard the upper membrane of the mouth, some passing through nasal passages and rupturing that epithelium. If there is enough, the saliva would douse the flame.

Inkfingers said:
Okay this is kinda tricky. The potion. Very good assumption. another way of doing that is by having a healing type medicine with a steroid in it, but not so much that it's like an illegal drug, just enough to speed up the healing process. Kinda like how sometimes babies are born w/ certain problems and need steroids to survive, you know?

Muk.Muk's body is composed of a more jelly like substance. It's kind of like a jelly fish that can move on land, is made up of a thicker jelly like substance and has eyes.
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1. That is not what a steroid does. Steroids are regulators, not activators (er, they can activate, but only indirectly). The healing process requires inflammatory response, followed by clotting and repair. A steroid could not possibly perform these functions, though they can regulate them. The only steroid which can possibly maintain this function is an anabolic steroid, but those cannot work as quickly as the Potion. Moreover, steroids would stimulate the body to repair itself, but they cannot speed the process up faster than the body can already regenerate.

2. If it were jelly, it would need constant bathing in liquid or else it would dry out and become crusty. More likely, Muk just secretes a mucous substance.

Inkfingers said:
A slowpoke's tail is made of pure muscle, skin, bone, and meat. The tail is skinned, deboned, demuscled(if that's even a word) and wella, slopoke tail. It has been said to taste similar to a ham.
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You overlooked the fact that muscle IS the meat that we eat. Pork chop? That's thigh muscle.

Tacogeddon said:
Muk could also be a giant unicellular blob, a giant amoeba.
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Not enough surface area. Can't be single-celled.
 
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Ok, explain to me how Team Galactic gets their Pokeballs if they have no belt around their waist or any pockets or anything to carry them with in that tight uniform, please :3



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ΩGodotΩ said:
Ok, explain to me how Team Galactic gets their Pokeballs if they have no belt around their waist or any pockets or anything to carry them with in that tight uniform, please :3



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They can convert Poke Balls into energy, like Poke Balls do to Pokemon.
They store them in their fingertips within a mechanical device.
 
Gymno I'm really sorry for that thing about you being wrong and all. but listen. I'll prove you wrong. W/ The sacs, let me expand. If you were touch your pallete and go back, not far enough to touch your uvula, but near or in front of it, you would notice a softer area. For fire pokemon, that is where the sac is on the top. Now before you correct me on how you need that softer area that is in the back, not in the throat, but moreso near it. Fire pokemon do not have tonsles, leaving room for that area. The lower area is not there though, you got me there.
The bodies do not produce flint or pyrite, they find and store it. The sacs have a lining on the inside, preventing any harm to the body. They do not consume the minerals, they use and grind them. The grainy material is burned through the fire, actually strengthening it. And yes, they do go and find more flint and iron pyrite when they run out. The pokemon rids of any harmful material by simply just washing & spitting it back out just as a human dumps waste products. Also the mineral sacs do not lead to the brain or any other part of the body. It is a thin flap with just enough room to store the minerals, meaning it is closed off.
Okay I didn't think of the hydrogen build up. So sue me. But the pokemon releases oxygen, nitrogen,argon,and carbon dioxidea.k.a. airand a pretty big amount. You did get me on that one.
Let me change the saliva thing. That was my first thought(I've thought about fire breathing before) and that was my first guess, but here's what really happens. It's simple, the pokemon opens its mouth wide enough so that a slender jet of fire exerts from the mouth and grows.
There you go man.


I don't know much about muk and potions so ya but that slug idea is really good

Gymno said it all on that one. Late on typing
 
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Bombardier Beetle in all of this, they mix reactant chemicals into a stream of near-boiling liquid that deals death to other tiny critters.
 
I've got a question-

Apricorn. Apparently, in the good ol' days of salad and glory, you used to capture Pokemon using a fruit used in baby foods. You've already explained pokeballs, but how could Apricorns give off enough energy to transport pokemon, unless they were dangerously radioactive?
 
Very good question, but actually, the apricorn is not what gives off the energy. The apricorn is used as a base for the pokeball. Like something is made out of metal or plastic, the pokeball is made from a apricorn shell, and the technology to do all tthe things it does, like transferring pokemon into energy, iss added. kinda like a cell phone, the tecnology is inside, but it has a plastic cover, hiding all that technology.
 
Dude, I missed out on some good questions. Stupid lawnmower...

Anyhow. Ya'know inkfinger (I really dislike commenting stuff like this), I don't think you gave a satisfactory answer above there.you explained pokeballs somewhat, as a given technology, but not how apricorns could contain pokeball-type technology in the first place...
I think perhaps there could be a certain chemical/element somewhere inside said nut- probably on the inside layer of the shell- which had a tendency to transmute matter to energy, and vice versa, when disturbed, such as by impact or pressure. As another point of the same discussion, I believe there was something about having to modify the apricorn slightly, such as by hollowing out the inside, hence the placing of the material. so, the Apricorn would have the ability to contain the pokemon inside, and the age and quality of the nut, plus the skill of the craftsman doing the hollowing and other alterations, would define how effective the Apricorns were at capturing them. Modern pokeball makers would have manufactured the containment material in different quantities and types, and made them possible to activate with the press of a button.

I forgot the return function! :O

Perhaps the composition of the Apricorn would hold information somehow? like a genetic outline of sorts. Pokeballs might replicate this through the use of a small computer between the inner and outer shells.

The computers between the Pokeballs, PC box, and Trainer profile on the PokeDex, would make it possible to teleport pokeballs to the PC box after the Trainer already has registered 6 pokemon for their party. (which means anyone allowed to use Pokedex-upgrading devices could hack themselves the abilities to carry more than 6 pokeballs at a time! >:D)
 
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Inkfingers said:
Gymno I'm really sorry for that thing about you being wrong and all. but listen. I'll prove you wrong. W/ The sacs, let me expand. If you were touch your pallete and go back, not far enough to touch your uvula, but near or in front of it, you would notice a softer area. For fire pokemon, that is where the sac is on the top. Now before you correct me on how you need that softer area that is in the back, not in the throat, but moreso near it. Fire pokemon do not have tonsles, leaving room for that area. The lower area is not there though, you got me there.
The bodies do not produce flint or pyrite, they find and store it. The sacs have a lining on the inside, preventing any harm to the body. They do not consume the minerals, they use and grind them. The grainy material is burned through the fire, actually strengthening it. And yes, they do go and find more flint and iron pyrite when they run out. The pokemon rids of any harmful material by simply just washing & spitting it back out just as a human dumps waste products. Also the mineral sacs do not lead to the brain or any other part of the body. It is a thin flap with just enough room to store the minerals, meaning it is closed off.
Okay I didn't think of the hydrogen build up. So sue me. But the pokemon releases oxygen, nitrogen,argon,and carbon dioxidea.k.a. airand a pretty big amount. You did get me on that one.
Let me change the saliva thing. That was my first thought(I've thought about fire breathing before) and that was my first guess, but here's what really happens. It's simple, the pokemon opens its mouth wide enough so that a slender jet of fire exerts from the mouth and grows.
There you go man.


I don't know much about muk and potions so ya but that slug idea is really good

Gymno said it all on that one. Late on typing
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Just woke up, so I'll just keep this short and sweet.

  • The palatine uvula would be the worst place to put it since that is where the space between the nasal passage and the mouth cavity is the thinnest. There is not possibly enough room back there.
  • "Finding and storing" is exactly what I meant by consume.
  • Grinding the material would only degrade it. Burning the materials would also do the same thing; burning the material in no way strengthens it.
  • If they are thin, then they would be more prone to damage -- the surfaces of the gland are closer to each other than if they were larger, and therefore more prone to damage from the stony substances found within when releasing.
  • Nitrogen is unflammable, otherwise when you light a match in midair, the entire environment would go ablaze -- our air is mainly composed of diatomic nitrogen. Argon is highly unflammable, having a very low boiling point and low heat conductivity. In fact, it is the stuff used in fire extinguishers. The same does for carbon dioxide. If it is air, the only vital part is the oxygen gas.
  • Oh yeah, it's definitely not hydrogen. I forgot the fact that diatomic hydrogen is impossible to make with the body. You will end up with H+ ions instead of the required hydrogen atoms. The H+ would then rupture every membrane it touches lol. And then, the hydrogen gas, if it does form by some manner of impossibility, is small enough to diffuse out of the body.
  • Grinding powder with the teeth can't possibly make a fire every time.
  • The pyrite would also heat up and sear whatever it touches. The flint would just decompose into chalky black ash.
  • If the body shoots a thin jet, they will need to breathe out really hard. That would put out the fire and expel the grains of material.
 
Gymnotide said:
They can convert Poke Balls into energy, like Poke Balls do to Pokemon.
They store them in their fingertips within a mechanical device.
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Well... lol. xD

If we are at that point already, how could you carry a bike, some rods, hundreds of potions, balls, stones and other items in such a little backpack or handbag? I think it´s the same way like that female warriors in a fantasy game - they wear nothing more than boots and steel bras, although it seems to be stupid to wear... well, nearly nothing while facing a mob of orks/a dragon/ some evil henchmen. But it looks good, so they programmed it that way. Not very logical, but again the "make it easy"-decision of Nintendo probably.

Well, in Galactic´s case, they maybe just forget to draw the belt here. For no obvious reason, because it wouldn´t look bad. The Rockets have one, too.
But, as we know, the Galactic henchmen always loose their Pokemon if the´ve lost a fight, so maybe this two had to give back their Pokemon and therefore don´t need a belt actually. xD
 
Wyyrlokk said:
Well... lol. xD

If we are at that point already, how could you carry a bike, some rods, hundreds of potions, balls, stones and other items in such a little backpack or handbag? I think it´s the same way like that female warriors in a fantasy game - they wear nothing more than boots and steel bras, although it seems to be stupid to wear... well, nearly nothing while facing a mob of orks/a dragon/ some evil henchmen. But it looks good, so they programmed it that way. Not very logical, but again the "make it easy"-decision of Nintendo probably.

Well, in Galactic´s case, they maybe just forget to draw the belt here. For no obvious reason, because it wouldn´t look bad. The Rockets have one, too.
But, as we know, the Galactic henchmen always loose their Pokemon if the´ve lost a fight, so maybe this two had to give back their Pokemon and therefore don´t need a belt actually. xD
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lol, we convert the Bikes, Rods, Repels, TM 26, Black Flute, Cleanse Tag, Iron Ball, Black Sludge, HM 04, Cheri Berry, Heal Ball, etc. into energy and store it within the backpack, which is secretly a Poke Ball-like device.

Oh yeah. Forgot that a lot of the Grunts don't have Pikmin.
 
Gymnotide said:
lol, we convert the Bikes, Rods, Repels, TM 26, Black Flute, Cleanse Tag, Iron Ball, Black Sludge, HM 04, Cheri Berry, Heal Ball, etc. into energy and store it within the backpack, which is secretly a Poke Ball-like device.

Oh yeah. Forgot that a lot of the Grunts don't have Pikmin.
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That doesn´t sound very logical to me. xD Besides, in the PokeSpec it seems to be that the characters don´t have such a magical backpack (but they carry also not that many stuff with them...). Ok. I guess I have to make my own decision here, to see it as a rpg-player would see it - there are no weight-limits, so you have to make your own and limit your inventory by your own. xD

In fact, that problem exist in many games. You carry thousands of items with you, although this is nearly impossible.
When you play a game where your character only can carry a limited weight, you are really annoyed sometimes by reality, after playing games with such a "magical backpack" - for example "S.T.A.L.K.E.R." - only 50 kg, which means you really have to decide what you want to take with you. A medikit? Another gun? Some more ammunition? Some food? That´s quite cool and makes the game harder than a game like Pokemon where you allowed to carry everything you want to. In that way, the first games (RBY) were closer to reality - you could only carry 20 different items in your backpack.
 
All the items fold and unfold for more room, like some stock on guns. The bike, the frame fols and the tires's rubber outside comes off. the spokes fold. Also, many items are smaller, therefore, there's more room in the bag. Gymno, why don't you say we just drop the fire breathing crap. I just wanna move on and answer more questions and get off this subject. And If u say it doesn't make sense, another thing that doesn't, the it's kinda like a bee I guess. Their body's wiegh more than their wings, and therefore should not be able to fly. There so just drop it. Please. And the apricorn thing, I don't get what's so hard about it. The Appricorn has no technology whatsoever. That's just a base for the technology BUILT on the inside.
 
I Laugh at your Misfortune! said:
All pokemon are secretly reptiles XD.
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then me, a Pikachu that somehow misteriously ate a Charizard is secretly a reptile? I DO have some Skitty somewhere in there, and some wolverine, but...
No question :D
 
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