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Another thing is that a lot of pokedex entries could be just exagerations to make them seem cooler. Of course Alakazam has extremely high Intelligence, but it being almost "Over [5]000!" is a little high. Like the Machamp being able to do 1000 Punches in two seconds, they add little tidbits that arent fact, but may have been from a myth of pokemon. Like how in an article on a Cheetah, it would give facts but may give a small excerpt from a myth or fable about how it got its spots or something along those lines. Does that makes sense?
 
Yams said:
Another thing is that a lot of pokedex entries could be just exagerations to make them seem cooler. Of course Alakazam has extremely high Intelligence, but it being almost "Over [5]000!" is a little high. Like the Machamp being able to do 1000 Punches in two seconds, they add little tidbits that arent fact, but may have been from a myth of pokemon. Like how in an article on a Cheetah, it would give facts but may give a small excerpt from a myth or fable about how it got its spots or something along those lines. Does that makes sense?
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THere was an episode where Ash and co visited the Pokedex guy, he was a bit crazy, and senile if I remember, and they did discuss exaggerations in the pokedex, didn't they? It was the episode where they found out how Slowpoke evolves into Slowbro.

Lol I remember how Ash's first Pokedex, basically called him stupid.
 
Are you talking about Sabrina? That's possoble because of the relationship wioth her pokemon. Kadabra(or Alakazam I can't remember) taught her that power, because they were such amazing friends. So yes, it is possible.

The first season was the best. I don't care what anyone else says.
 
O, he taught it to her? Cause in the games at least, psychics seem abundant.

I was asking, because this brings the idea of fate in. The psychics in the game forsaw an outcome, but never really went into detail. Perhaps that is them, just boasting nothing? (their sprites show them using telekinesis anyway).

Very weird...
 
Psychics in the game have manifested the ability to use a small amount of telekinesis from the energy that their psychic pokemon give off. It is not really enough to do anything besides showing off a trick or two though. The premonitions are just boasting when by normal psychics. People like Sabrina actually have that talent however.
 
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Plus, how does a pokemon be transferred into data? I mean facts in a textbook is data, but that doesn't mean it's transferreed like energy is does it? I don't really get the concept of data transferring but apparently, it makes sense.
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The idea is that in a split second, the Pokeball completely scans the pokemon, recording every possible bit of data about it. The Pokemon is then INCINERATED. When it is 'called out', the data is used to create a perfect clone, even rebuilding the brain so perfectly that the pokemon retains all of its memories.
 
Then you wouldn't be getting the same pokemon. That's impossible, the ball would then carry two pokemon, which is impossible for it to do. Right? I mean with energy, it's the same pokemon. If the data thing is true, then the trainer would have "caught" like ten of the same type of bulbasaur.

That would basically be like, killing one pokemon and forming another that's exactly same.
 
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Inkfingers said:
Then you wouldn't be getting the same pokemon. That's impossible, the ball would then carry two pokemon, which is impossible for it to do. Right? I mean with energy, it's the same pokemon. If the data thing is true, then the trainer would have "caught" like ten of the same type of bulbasaur.

That would basically be like, killing one pokemon and forming another that's exactly same.
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Actually, interesting this is mentioned, because with today's findings of teleportation, the way Green explained it is essentially the same. Like that the person is destroyed while a copy is made on the other end. Even Star Trek could have this argument of abiguity.
 
Pretty much. IMO, it's about the same thing:the pokemon is recorded, destroyed, recalled and reformed exactly the same as when you caught it. If you wanted, you could add another aspect, the soul, which remains in and around the pokeball in which it was caught because it's existance is not truly gone (that or there was an agreement of some kind concerning Apricorns). I think I like this 'ball theory.

As for the human-supremacy thing, I'd say that pokemon, while sentient, generally don't have the imagination required for modern technology and buildings. The farthest regular pokemon get are the Guild in Mystery Dungeon. Humans have something pokemon want, orginality, creative power: Pokemon provide a sort of power source or something to work off of.
 
mOOG said:
Pretty much. IMO, it's about the same thing:the pokemon is recorded, destroyed, recalled and reformed exactly the same as when you caught it. If you wanted, you could add another aspect, the soul, which remains in and around the pokeball in which it was caught because it's existance is not truly gone (that or there was an agreement of some kind concerning Apricorns). I think I like this 'ball theory.

As for the human-supremacy thing, I'd say that Pokémon, while sentient, generally don't have the imagination required for modern technology and buildings. The farthest regular Pokémon get are the Guild in Mystery Dungeon. Humans have something Pokémon want, originality, creative power: Pokémon provide a sort of power source or something to work off of.
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MD is meant to represent what the world would like like sans Humans. It never actually says where in time that era is, however; it could easily be more primitive times. It's entirely possible that, given time, the Pokémon world could grow to match the human one, or even surpass it; after all, most Pokémon possess powers humans can't even dream of having.

When you go to the future, it's pretty much a time-frozen ruin.

Explorers of the Sky is going to be extended, I think, so maybe we'll get a chance to see what the Pokémon-only world looks like in the future...
 
Also a clone can't be made without a female host for the egg to be artificially fertilized. So the data theory is impossible. And hoow does energy take up more space than matter, if I may ask. Please explain.
 
Okai, I has a question. How the hell does Geodude work? It's a living chunk of rock that floats around and it's not psychic nor does it have any psychic powers. Explain pleassums.
 
[F I L Ocakes] said:
Okai, I has a question. How the hell does Geodude work? It's a living chunk of rock that floats around and it's not psychic nor does it have any psychic powers. Explain pleassums.
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Ground-types, having domain over the Earth (referenced by their ability to use moves like Earth Power and Magnitude through sheer willpower), are gifted with gravity-related abilities as well. By negating the effect of gravity on its body, it just... floats there. By shifting its balance, it can control where it drifts, and there are even situations where Geodude doesn't float at all.

Screw the rules said:
The idea is that in a split second, the Pokeball completely scans the pokemon, recording every possible bit of data about it. The Pokemon is then INCINERATED. When it is 'called out', the data is used to create a perfect clone, even rebuilding the brain so perfectly that the pokemon retains all of its memories.
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Exactly. The only correction I have to offer here is that sentience isn't stored in the brain, so merely recreating it wouldn't restore the Pokemon's "soul" (the recreated Pokemon would be vegetative). Based on evidence in both the games and anime (inb4 ShinjisLover), the Pokemon world does have the technology necessary to digitize sentience and turn it into a form of AI coding.

For the convenience of the people who don't want to dig through pages of Guru-babble, I'll repost the original digitization post.

Neiteio said:
...I've been working on how a PokeBall can do what it does, and I'm thinking that it disintergrates (!) the target and keeps both its consciousness and genotype in the PokeBall shell. The genotype is stored permanently, which is why two Pokemon cannot be caught in the same PokeBall, and inanimate objects (like riceballs) don't get disintergrated....

Anyway, upon being summoned, the PokeBall re-intergrates the Pokemon using the genetic data as a blueprint, then transfers the consciousness into the body.
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I have a question, it says in the pokedex that charmander would die if it's flames dies out. So it charmander were to use iron tail would he die, since it isn't possible to have a flame lit on metal?
 
A few things.
Nietieo, please explain to me how energy takes up more space than matter.

Geodude has that gravity capability that neitio was talking about, and geodude has a peculiar structure. His interior is organs and all that and his exterior is the same. Only, instead of a fleshy substance, it's rock. This was also explained in Fantastic Four about the thing.

Iron tail is learned by one simple technique: condensing the molecules, which some pokemon have the ability to do this. The tail's molecules become closer and more contact, creating an extremely hard tail structure. So the tail does not actually become iron. It simply is a tail striking move. It's like razor leaf. The leaves are LIKE razors.
 
Neiteio said:
Exactly. The only correction I have to offer here is that sentience isn't stored in the brain, so merely recreating it wouldn't restore the Pokemon's "soul" (the recreated Pokemon would be vegetative). Based on evidence in both the games and anime (inb4 ShinjisLover), the Pokemon world does have the technology necessary to digitize sentience and turn it into a form of AI coding.
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That's kinda arguable isn't it? Whether or not sentience is in the brain depends on the existence of a soul, which is a completely debatable topic.

Re: Iron tail, I would say that 'Iron' refers to the strength of the hit, rather than the actual tail turning into metal. Notice, in the anime, that Pikachu's tail glows when it uses Iron tail, it doesn't turn silver or anything like that.
 
Screw the rules said:
That's kinda arguable isn't it? Whether or not sentience is in the brain depends on the existence of a soul, which is a completely debatable topic.
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I was more referring to the "fact" that a body and sentience are independent entities. Example: comatose/vegetative situations where the brain is biologically intact, but the "spark" of consciousness is missing.

Although the existence of a "soul" has been debated for the longest time, we do know that it is connected to cerebral integrity: It's not possible to have sentience without a brain (or if the brain has been damaged). It is also possible to have a brain and no sentience (the aforementioned vegetative states).

Regarding the games and anime (the episode "Electric Soldier Porygon"), it has been shown that people and Pokemon can be transferred into computers/digital space with their consciousness intact.

dream's-epilogue said:
Just a very simple, non-arguable question. What's the canonical unit of currency in the Pokemon world?
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Pokemon Dollars/PokeDollars (symbol
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). The name was given in Pokemon Colosseum (and I think it was also mentioned in Gale of Darkness). Interesting to note that in the Japanese games, the Yen symbol (¥) is used.
 
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